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Maxprop November 16th 05 10:54 PM

Thank You JEFF!!!
 

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message

Gawd I luv South Park!


Do tell? Something produced in America appeals to you?

Max




Capt.Mooron November 16th 05 11:39 PM

Thank You JEFF!!!
 

"Maxprop" wrote in message

Mr. Ganz seems to be under the impression you aren't allowed to travel to
the US.

Jon is mistaken about a lot of things

I believe you mean *somewhere else on the planet.* I doubt if you'd find,
for example, something like Chesepeake Bay in Saudi Arabia or Tanzania.


A large bay and a desert.. we got those.


Pretty much like Canadians. I find Canadians and Americans to be so
similar as to be virtually indistinguishable, those from the French
provinces the exception, as they mostly tend to be incredibly rude and
arrogant. You are right, however, that many Americans are ignorant of
anything beyond their respective state borders, and beyond their hometowns
in many cases. Same with Canadians. On a motorcycle trip through Canada
some years ago, I found it worthless to ask directions much beyond 20
miles or so from my current location. No one had the foggiest of what was
over the next hill. But I found most Cannucks to be friendly and
congenial, the same as I've found most Americans to be. You remarked that
you don't consider arrogance to be a character flaw. Perhaps those that
meet you do.


No..... not like Canadians. We are not at all similar to Americans.


Canada: how many Canadian automobiles (not just American cars made under
license) does your country produce? How many indigenous motorcycles? How
many provinces have tropical or subtropical climates?


Free Trade Max... just because it's an"American" car does not mean it was
made in the uSA... not anymore anyway. We make some of the autos up here and
import the remainder.... you have heard of shipping no?


Mexico and/or Cuba: won't even bother with those


Why not... I've had pleasent expericences in Mexico ... even with customs.



Caribbean: how many freshwater rivers, bays and tidewater estuaries do
you find there? What is the per capita income throughout the Caribbean,
and how does it compare with Canada or the USA? And on and on . . .


Max!?? Really now.... all of the above can be found in many areas. Compare?
... I would say favourably.



If you mean that those countries *combined* offer everything the US does,
then you might be close. But I can have all those things without having
to show my passport or deal with incompetent local governments bent on
extorting money from me. And I can make a decent living anywhere within
the borders of the USA. buy virtually any product or service imaginable,
and not have to deal with the petty, extortionist bureaucrats that such
places as Cuba and Mexico have in droves.


No I don't mean combined... you have Florida and a couple of islands like
Hawaii and Samoa as well as USVI etc. Is that combined? I have no problem
entering any of the Caribbean Islands.

Would these be the rude, arrogant ones? Now that you mention it, birds of
a feather . . .


Some are... some are down right tree hugging environmentalists.


Hmmm. Try flying into Frankfort, Germany, or Tel Aviv, for examples, to
witness just how paranoid the authorities can be. Spread 'em and raise
your arms, Mooron. g


Max... I have an EU Passport... Europe is a walk through for me.

Bull****. You watch too much liberal TV and believe the half-truths and
distortions you see. .


No bull****... I am talking from personal experience.

No ****? According to folks like you, there can't be over a dozen or more
decent Americans. You must have met them all in one sitting.


Not in one sitting... over years of travel... but yes


But rest assured... I'd prefer a trip to the USA than any Muslim Country
right now!


Right now, yes, because you'd be taken for an American.


I would never be mistaken for an American Max...... not in a hundred years.
That is the crux of what you don't understand about the difference between
the two nations. Mind You I can act like an American here and in retrospect
it was my youthful admiration of American Arrogance that led me down the
path I am at now.... and I have no regrets of that journey. When I need to
get something done I bring out my "American influence"... works wonders. It
intimidates people. I always admire the American Attitude...... then again
I have the option to temper it with cordial and polite behaviour. In essence
I have the best of both worlds.

CM



Jonathan Ganz November 16th 05 11:41 PM

Thank You JEFF!!!
 
In article et,
Maxprop wrote:
Sheesh... I've got my EU passport so no problem..... but I don't want to
get shaken down for a retinal scan and fingerprint for your Homeland
Security Office.


Mr. Ganz seems to be under the impression you aren't allowed to travel to
the US.


I was just doing a rare troll.. caught two for one me thinks.

I have 2 US Visas and an American Social Security Card. I have travelled
through-out the USA years ago.... down the west coat to Mexico taking in
every state along the West coast... back up from Mexico through the
central western states.... I would say that I have been to more states
than most of you.. I've been in every state up the Eastern coast and all
along your border with Canada. I've been through most of the central
states as well. The USA offers nothing I couldn't find anywhere else on
the planet.


I believe you mean *somewhere else on the planet.* I doubt if you'd find,
for example, something like Chesepeake Bay in Saudi Arabia or Tanzania.


It has Texas!!

Pretty much like Canadians. I find Canadians and Americans to be so similar
as to be virtually indistinguishable, those from the French provinces the
exception, as they mostly tend to be incredibly rude and arrogant. You are


Hmmm.. that's not been my experience. I mostly find Canadians to be a
heck of a lot nicer.

with Canadians. On a motorcycle trip through Canada some years ago, I found
it worthless to ask directions much beyond 20 miles or so from my current
location. No one had the foggiest of what was over the next hill. But I


Giving bad directions have nothing to do with breeding or
intelligence.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



Capt.Mooron November 16th 05 11:43 PM

Thank You JEFF!!!
 

"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message

Gawd I luv South Park!


Do tell? Something produced in America appeals to you?


Lots of things produced in America appeal to me Max..... Indignation for
instance... I understand you folks have cornered the global market. :-)

CM



Jonathan Ganz November 16th 05 11:49 PM

Thank You JEFF!!!
 
In article EqPef.146744$Io.49634@clgrps13,
Capt.Mooron wrote:
Jon is mistaken about a lot of things


But you aren't. Give us a break.

it was my youthful admiration of American Arrogance that led me down the
path I am at now.... and I have no regrets of that journey. When I need to
get something done I bring out my "American influence"... works wonders. It
intimidates people. I always admire the American Attitude...... then again


Suggestion: You need more practice.
--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



Capt.Mooron November 16th 05 11:50 PM

Thank You JEFF!!!
 
Jon ... knock it off.... it's almost sounding like you might tolerate
Canadians... next thing you know.... you'll be telling us you have friends
in Toronto!

CM

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article et,
Maxprop wrote:
Sheesh... I've got my EU passport so no problem..... but I don't want to
get shaken down for a retinal scan and fingerprint for your Homeland
Security Office.


Mr. Ganz seems to be under the impression you aren't allowed to travel to
the US.


I was just doing a rare troll.. caught two for one me thinks.

I have 2 US Visas and an American Social Security Card. I have travelled
through-out the USA years ago.... down the west coat to Mexico taking in
every state along the West coast... back up from Mexico through the
central western states.... I would say that I have been to more states
than most of you.. I've been in every state up the Eastern coast and all
along your border with Canada. I've been through most of the central
states as well. The USA offers nothing I couldn't find anywhere else on
the planet.


I believe you mean *somewhere else on the planet.* I doubt if you'd find,
for example, something like Chesepeake Bay in Saudi Arabia or Tanzania.


It has Texas!!

Pretty much like Canadians. I find Canadians and Americans to be so
similar
as to be virtually indistinguishable, those from the French provinces the
exception, as they mostly tend to be incredibly rude and arrogant. You
are


Hmmm.. that's not been my experience. I mostly find Canadians to be a
heck of a lot nicer.

with Canadians. On a motorcycle trip through Canada some years ago, I
found
it worthless to ask directions much beyond 20 miles or so from my current
location. No one had the foggiest of what was over the next hill. But I


Giving bad directions have nothing to do with breeding or
intelligence.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com





Jonathan Ganz November 16th 05 11:52 PM

Thank You JEFF!!!
 
In article OAPef.146749$Io.19711@clgrps13,
Capt.Mooron wrote:
Jon ... knock it off.... it's almost sounding like you might tolerate
Canadians... next thing you know.... you'll be telling us you have friends
in Toronto!


In Toronto?? No way. You're my only and best friend in Canaduh. Don't
be jealous.




--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com



Gary November 17th 05 12:04 AM

Thank You JEFF!!!
 
Maxprop wrote:
"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:40Kef.112372$y_1.97239@edtnps89...

"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message


"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:Dalef.124008$yS6.75248@clgrps12...

Bush won the election! CM


This is probably why you can't travel to the US.

He can't?


Sheesh... I've got my EU passport so no problem..... but I don't want to
get shaken down for a retinal scan and fingerprint for your Homeland
Security Office.



Mr. Ganz seems to be under the impression you aren't allowed to travel to
the US.


I have 2 US Visas and an American Social Security Card. I have travelled
through-out the USA years ago.... down the west coat to Mexico taking in
every state along the West coast... back up from Mexico through the
central western states.... I would say that I have been to more states
than most of you.. I've been in every state up the Eastern coast and all
along your border with Canada. I've been through most of the central
states as well. The USA offers nothing I couldn't find anywhere else on
the planet.



I believe you mean *somewhere else on the planet.* I doubt if you'd find,
for example, something like Chesepeake Bay in Saudi Arabia or Tanzania.


In general... I found it to be paranoid, rude and the people generally
ignorant of anything outside their respective states ... let alone their
national borders.



Pretty much like Canadians. I find Canadians and Americans to be so similar
as to be virtually indistinguishable, those from the French provinces the
exception, as they mostly tend to be incredibly rude and arrogant. You are
right, however, that many Americans are ignorant of anything beyond their
respective state borders, and beyond their hometowns in many cases. Same
with Canadians. On a motorcycle trip through Canada some years ago, I found
it worthless to ask directions much beyond 20 miles or so from my current
location. No one had the foggiest of what was over the next hill. But I
found most Cannucks to be friendly and congenial, the same as I've found
most Americans to be. You remarked that you don't consider arrogance to be
a character flaw. Perhaps those that meet you do.



Canada, Mexico, Cuba and the Caribbean offers everything the US does....



Canada: how many Canadian automobiles (not just American cars made under
license) does your country produce? How many indigenous motorcycles? How
many provinces have tropical or subtropical climates?

Mexico and/or Cuba: won't even bother with those

Caribbean: how many freshwater rivers, bays and tidewater estuaries do you
find there? What is the per capita income throughout the Caribbean, and how
does it compare with Canada or the USA? And on and on . . .

If you mean that those countries *combined* offer everything the US does,
then you might be close. But I can have all those things without having to
show my passport or deal with incompetent local governments bent on
extorting money from me. And I can make a decent living anywhere within the
borders of the USA. buy virtually any product or service imaginable, and not
have to deal with the petty, extortionist bureaucrats that such places as
Cuba and Mexico have in droves.


so I have no need to travel there except maybe to visit some of my many
American friends.....



Would these be the rude, arrogant ones? Now that you mention it, birds of a
feather . . .


but not at the price of getting a shake-down and frisked at the front
door. Most people specify no US stops on trips to other countries now.



Hmmm. Try flying into Frankfort, Germany, or Tel Aviv, for examples, to
witness just how paranoid the authorities can be. Spread 'em and raise your
arms, Mooron. g


Globally speaking... and in very general terms.... I found that years
ago Americans were tolerated but disliked.... whereas now it seems they
are despised and avoided.



Bull****. You watch too much liberal TV and believe the half-truths and
distortions you see. My last trip to China was a real eye-opener. We were
informed beforehand that we might get a less-than-friendly reception. To
the contrary we were treated like visiting royalty. The Chinese kids in
Beijing were so interested in us that they almost wouldn't leave us alone.
And the adults all wanted to know what it was like to live in the USA. We
stopped in Germany on the way home and were likewise treated warmly and with
respect. The only minor glitch we encountered was with an overly officious
jerk in the customs office at JFK International upon our return.


I must state however that I have had pleasant experiences with the
American Tourists visiting Canada. I also had the pleasure to meet with
some very nice Americans during my travels there. It seems that politeness
and courtesy is contagious.



No ****? According to folks like you, there can't be over a dozen or more
decent Americans. You must have met them all in one sitting.


But rest assured... I'd prefer a trip to the USA than any Muslim Country
right now!



Right now, yes, because you'd be taken for an American. My last trip to
Jordan/Saudi Arabia/Egypt was between Desert Storm ('91) and the current
Iraq war. The Arabs we dealt with were friendly, courteous, congenial, and
very interested in life in America. I saw a professor, an Arab with one of
the universities in Germany--don't recall which at the moment--talking on
CNN not long ago. He said that nearly every country on the planet has
traditionally had people who look up to Americans (oh, I suppose that might
include you guys, too) and wish to learn more about them, emulate them in
some ways (dress, music, culture). Recently, however, with the
preponderance of anti-US sentiment throughout the world media, many of those
same people, who've envied Americans, now have an excuse to dislike them.
He likened it to Michael Jackson--many people were jealous of his wealth,
fame, talent. But when he became tarnished, they jumped on the bandwagon of
those who hated him. Jealousy is always a great motivator.

Max


This rant is soooo American. You're right, we all love you.

Capt.Mooron November 17th 05 12:43 AM

Thank You JEFF!!!
 

"Gary" wrote in message

This rant is soooo American. You're right, we all love you.


If they could only do the "arrogance" and "indignation" with some self
confidence it would be much more palatable! :-)

CM



Scotty November 17th 05 01:25 AM

Thank You JEFF!!!
 

"DSK" wrote
They generally cost more, too.

The bottom line- Bubbles claims he bought a boat, paying more

than 5X
what Scotty paid... and his boat is only slightly bigger,

*maybe*
slightly faster (if Bubbles takes sailing lessons)... will be

used less,
and that closer to it's home slip.

WTF has he got to brag about?



Just a slight correction, Doug, he claims to have paid 12X my
boat. Otherwise the rest is 'right on'.

Scotty





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