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Muslim rioters throughout France burned cars, shot at policemen, and
launched gasoline bombs on schools and churches. Over 1,200 people have
already been arrested. This rioting follows on the heels of a true
Darwin Award situation, wherein two Muslim juvenile delinquents fleeing
French police holed up in a power plant and shocked themselves to
death. Of coures it's the West putting down the poor muslims.

In the typically French way, President Jacques Chirac stated publicly
that the French republic would remain "stronger than those who want to
sow violence or fear." Privately, however, he told the president of
Latvia that the riots were France's fault, largely due to the
"ghettoisation [sic] of youths of African or North African origin" and
France's "incapacity to fully accept them."

Maybe, just maybe, Europe doesn't get it.

When Muslim terrorists murder 3,000 Americans on Sept. 11, the European
response is to lecture Americans about their "intolerance". When
Muslim terrorists bomb Madrid, the European response is to elect a
socialist apologist for Islamist terrorism. When Muslim terrorists bomb
London, the European response is to complain about increased safety
measures. And when Muslims riot and burn half of France, the European
solution is to apologize for their own close-mindedness.

This is called enabling. The global Muslim community has shown itself
to be aggressive internationally, isolationist domestically and often
violent religiously. The solution to such behavior isn't kowtowing -
it's strong and forceful opposition. Yet because of political
correctness, because so many on the international left are afraid to
label the indefensible as indefensible, Western Civilization finds
itself in flames.

Because this is only the first step. Historically speaking, France, as
detestable as it has been since at least the French Revolution, has
been a bellwether for Western Civilization. The French Revolution
viciously initiated the rise of liberal democracy; the Paris Revolution
of 1848 inflamed revolution throughout Europe; French inadequacy during
World War II plunged Europe into extended darkness; French involvement
in Vietnam led to American involvement; France's inability to hold
Algeria signaled an end to colonialism; French capitulation to
terrorism (in Algeria as elsewhere) has from the beginning boded ill
for the fate of Westerners engaged in the struggle against Islamism.

Should Western Civilization adopt the "multicultural" policy-making of
the French government, all of Western Civilization could meet the fate
France currently faces. France has allowed its Muslim minority to
remain insulated and extreme. France has virtually ignored its
burgeoning population problem - decline of native population combined
with a drastic rise in Muslim immigration has quickly changed the
character of the country. And France's foreign policy has been
spineless and capitulatory from the beginning, shrugging off Islamist
terrorism by citing to differences in political and social perceptions
in the Muslim world.

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/articl...TICLE_ID=47332
By Ben Shipiro

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A lightbulb should go off in the heads of Americans while watching what
is going on in France. What will we do when one day the millions of
Mexicans who have entered the US and spread throughout the country
decide to start rioting and burning.

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"rgnmstr" wrote in message
ups.com...
A lightbulb should go off in the heads of Americans while watching what
is going on in France. What will we do when one day the millions of
Mexicans who have entered the US and spread throughout the country
decide to start rioting and burning.


It's already happening. Most of the crime in my area (murder) is from
illegals.



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"rgnmstr" wrote...
A lightbulb should go off in the heads of Americans while watching what
is going on in France. What will we do when one day the millions of
Mexicans who have entered the US and spread throughout the country
decide to start rioting and burning.



Dang, Loco, did you really write that? You wear one o' them pointy hoods
too?

And if you don't like all a-them Hispanicals entering the country
illegally, then why do you support the guy in charge who has not only
shrugged off the problem, but encouraged more?


Bob Crantz wrote:
It's already happening. Most of the crime in my area (murder) is from
illegals.


Murder is not the same as rioting.

DSK



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Jonathan Ganz
 
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In article . com,
rgnmstr wrote:
A lightbulb should go off in the heads of Americans while watching what
is going on in France. What will we do when one day the millions of
Mexicans who have entered the US and spread throughout the country
decide to start rioting and burning.


Unlikely, as they pretty much have full employment. :-)

Heck, my gardener has two other businesses on the side.




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"DSK" wrote in message
...
"rgnmstr" wrote...
A lightbulb should go off in the heads of Americans while watching what
is going on in France. What will we do when one day the millions of
Mexicans who have entered the US and spread throughout the country
decide to start rioting and burning.



Dang, Loco, did you really write that? You wear one o' them pointy hoods
too?

And if you don't like all a-them Hispanicals entering the country
illegally, then why do you support the guy in charge who has not only
shrugged off the problem, but encouraged more?


Bob Crantz wrote:
It's already happening. Most of the crime in my area (murder) is from
illegals.


Murder is not the same as rioting.


I forgot to mention the Cinco de Mayo and Zoot Suit Riots.


DSK





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rgnmstr
 
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Dang, Loco, did you really write that? You wear one o' them pointy
hoods
too? ..

Well Doug that's a nice accusation. My gripe is not with legal
immigration. It's with the millions who just walk in every year
illegally. My gripe is with the criminals and thugs who walk in
illegally every year and that's a fact. My gripe is with the illegals
who get here and want everything changed to accomadate THEM. They
don't want to learn the language. They don't want to take a
citizenship test. They just want to run for office so they can change
things to suit themselves. They don't want to join America. Does your
accusation mean you approve of breaking the law?

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Dang, Loco, did you really write that? You wear one o' them pointy
hoods
too? ..


rgnmstr wrote:
Well Doug that's a nice accusation.


It's a lovely thing that you said, too.


... My gripe is not with legal
immigration. It's with the millions who just walk in every year
illegally. My gripe is with the criminals and thugs who walk in
illegally every year and that's a fact. My gripe is with the illegals
who get here and want everything changed to accomadate THEM.


I notice you didn't answer my question about your support of the
administration that is actively encouraging this... after all, the
Wal-Mart economy thrives on an excess of cheap labor.

.... They
don't want to learn the language. They don't want to take a
citizenship test. They just want to run for office so they can change
things to suit themselves.


You could be talking about the Christian Right, y'know.

.... Does your
accusation mean you approve of breaking the law?


Hardly. For example, I find it outrageous that the state of North
Carolina has written laws that require the driver's license to be given
in practically any language. The common language here is English, and a
person can not speak it & read it well enough to interact with other
drivers, read signs, understand police, etc etc, then they should be
actively prohibited from driving here.

OTOH I am learning Spanish and am beginning to use it several times a
week. Hay muchos problemos con esta machina, no? Es dificil por el
trabajando? Gracias, amigo.

Loco, my ancestors were not welcomed here. For at least two or three
generations, the Irish were servants and stoop labor. I'm not in favor
of illegal immigration, IMHO it's one more item on a long list of ways
Bush Administration is screwing the country. But let's not play back
porch bigot, OK?

DSK

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In article .com,
rgnmstr wrote:
Dang, Loco, did you really write that? You wear one o' them pointy
hoods
too? ..

Well Doug that's a nice accusation. My gripe is not with legal
immigration. It's with the millions who just walk in every year
illegally. My gripe is with the criminals and thugs who walk in
illegally every year and that's a fact. My gripe is with the illegals
who get here and want everything changed to accomadate THEM. They
don't want to learn the language. They don't want to take a
citizenship test. They just want to run for office so they can change
things to suit themselves. They don't want to join America. Does your
accusation mean you approve of breaking the law?


I think it's more of an economic issue in Mexico and south than it is
criminal intent. I don't think it's possible to close the border
logistically speaking. If the number were reduced due to improved
conditions below the border, then it would be much, much easier to
enforce border integrity. We don't have much of a border issue from
Canada in a large part because of the better economic condition
there.

My experience with Mexican nationals in the US is that they
desperately want a better life for themselves and their families, and
will take just about any job or surmount any hardship to accomplish
that. Most do have some English language skills, but are not really
given much opportunity to learn in a formal way. Some would like to
bar their kids from going to school. This makes no sense, since it
perpetuates the situation.

I like the idea of a guest worker program, but this isn't the entire
solution. In many ways, the US would not be able to function without
the kind of workers that are now here illegally.






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I think it's more of an economic issue in Mexico and south than it
is
criminal intent.

Exactly. Until Mexico changes someday and eliminates corruption
nothing will change. Millions have been invested in Mexico and the
masses still don't have jobs. The rulling class got richer though.
Also, although many talk about the willingness of Mexicans to work many
companies have tried to set up shop in Mexico only to decide afterwards
they have to leave because of the poor quality of workmanship. Lionel
Trains tried manufacturing in Mexico and had to quit after only a few
years. Where did they go? China. A number of southern Calif. boat
builders tried Mexico. They also left. Along with poor quality every
gov. dimwit in Mexico has his hand out. You gotta wonder about a
country that has a president who gives a neighboring country **** for
not wanting millions of his people to stream across their boarder. Why
would a president want people to leave?

 
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