A lightbulb should go off in the heads of Americans while watching what
is going on in France. What will we do when one day the millions of
Mexicans who have entered the US and spread throughout the country
decide to start rioting and burning.

"rgnmstr" wrote in message
ups.com...
A lightbulb should go off in the heads of Americans while watching what
is going on in France. What will we do when one day the millions of
Mexicans who have entered the US and spread throughout the country
decide to start rioting and burning.

It's already happening. Most of the crime in my area (murder) is from
illegals.

"rgnmstr" wrote...
A lightbulb should go off in the heads of Americans while watching what
is going on in France. What will we do when one day the millions of
Mexicans who have entered the US and spread throughout the country
decide to start rioting and burning.


Dang, Loco, did you really write that? You wear one o' them pointy hoods
too?

And if you don't like all a-them Hispanicals entering the country
illegally, then why do you support the guy in charge who has not only
shrugged off the problem, but encouraged more?


Bob Crantz wrote:
It's already happening. Most of the crime in my area (murder) is from
illegals.


Murder is not the same as rioting.

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
...
"rgnmstr" wrote...
A lightbulb should go off in the heads of Americans while watching what
is going on in France. What will we do when one day the millions of
Mexicans who have entered the US and spread throughout the country
decide to start rioting and burning.


Dang, Loco, did you really write that? You wear one o' them pointy hoods
too?

And if you don't like all a-them Hispanicals entering the country
illegally, then why do you support the guy in charge who has not only
shrugged off the problem, but encouraged more?


Bob Crantz wrote:
It's already happening. Most of the crime in my area (murder) is from
illegals.


Murder is not the same as rioting.

I forgot to mention the Cinco de Mayo and Zoot Suit Riots.


DSK

Dang, Loco, did you really write that? You wear one o' them pointy
hoods
too? ..

Well Doug that's a nice accusation. My gripe is not with legal
immigration. It's with the millions who just walk in every year
illegally. My gripe is with the criminals and thugs who walk in
illegally every year and that's a fact. My gripe is with the illegals
who get here and want everything changed to accomadate THEM. They
don't want to learn the language. They don't want to take a
citizenship test. They just want to run for office so they can change
things to suit themselves. They don't want to join America. Does your
accusation mean you approve of breaking the law?

Dang, Loco, did you really write that? You wear one o' them pointy
hoods
too? ..

rgnmstr wrote:
Well Doug that's a nice accusation.

It's a lovely thing that you said, too.


... My gripe is not with legal
immigration. It's with the millions who just walk in every year
illegally. My gripe is with the criminals and thugs who walk in
illegally every year and that's a fact. My gripe is with the illegals
who get here and want everything changed to accomadate THEM.

I notice you didn't answer my question about your support of the
administration that is actively encouraging this... after all, the
Wal-Mart economy thrives on an excess of cheap labor.

.... They
don't want to learn the language. They don't want to take a
citizenship test. They just want to run for office so they can change
things to suit themselves.

You could be talking about the Christian Right, y'know.

.... Does your
accusation mean you approve of breaking the law?


Hardly. For example, I find it outrageous that the state of North
Carolina has written laws that require the driver's license to be given
in practically any language. The common language here is English, and a
person can not speak it & read it well enough to interact with other
drivers, read signs, understand police, etc etc, then they should be
actively prohibited from driving here.

OTOH I am learning Spanish and am beginning to use it several times a
week. Hay muchos problemos con esta machina, no? Es dificil por el
trabajando? Gracias, amigo.

Loco, my ancestors were not welcomed here. For at least two or three
generations, the Irish were servants and stoop labor. I'm not in favor
of illegal immigration, IMHO it's one more item on a long list of ways
Bush Administration is screwing the country. But let's not play back
porch bigot, OK?

DSK

It's a lovely thing that you said, too..

Hey, All I did was point out what could happen here someday.

I notice you didn't answer my question about your support of the
administration that is actively encouraging this... after all, the
Wal-Mart economy thrives on an excess of cheap labor.

It's not all about Wal-Mart and big business. It about platcating a
group of people. It's about not offending a group of people. It's
about political correctness. It's about votes! The thing Bush and
everyone else that cheers for the illegals don't understand is that
down the road the Mexicans in this country won't give a hoot about them
when they take over the southern states.

You could be talking about the Christian Right, y'know. .

Don't think so.


Hardly. For example, I find it outrageous that the state of North
Carolina has written laws that require the driver's license to be given

in practically any language. The common language here is English, and a

person can not speak it & read it well enough to interact with other
drivers, read signs, understand police, etc etc, then they should be
actively prohibited from driving here.

Hell some people felt it was just fine when the middle eastern women
wanted to keep her veil on for her Fla. driver's license photo. That's
what I'm talking about when I say foreigners today don't want to
assimilate. In southern states that boarder Mexico where Mexicans have
won political office they have passed laws to changed the official
language of the town or city to Spanish. Is that joining up?

It's a lovely thing that you said, too..

rgnmstr wrote:
Hey, All I did was point out what could happen here someday.

Oh yeah. And all Bobsprit does is brag about "his" nice boat.

And BTW we have already had race riots in this country. Some folks seem
to be pushing in that direction again, I guess because they have forgotten.

I notice you didn't answer my question about your support of the
administration that is actively encouraging this... after all, the
Wal-Mart economy thrives on an excess of cheap labor.

It's not all about Wal-Mart and big business. It about platcating a
group of people. It's about not offending a group of people. It's
about political correctness.

I see, you object to "political correctnoess." That does not excuse
making bigoted remarks and setting out to demean & diminish an entire
class of citizens.

... It's about votes! The thing Bush and
everyone else that cheers for the illegals don't understand is that
down the road the Mexicans in this country won't give a hoot about them
when they take over the southern states.


You mean, the way you give a hoot about them now? Maybe the Hispanics
are all working themselves up over worrying about whether or not white
Anglo-Saxon people are goint to riot.


Anyway, you could be talking about the Cuban embargo, too.

I agree that it's about votes, but a political party that intend to
diminish civil rights, stamp out equality among citizens, and push wage
levels down, needs to be willing to use a little more care with their
bigoted rhetoric. There is such a thing as pushing too many people too far.

You could be talking about the Christian Right, y'know. .

Don't think so.


rgnmstr wrote:
They don't want to assimilate. They just want to run for office so they can change
things to suit themselves.

That describes the Christian Right to a T.



Hell some people felt it was just fine when the middle eastern women
wanted to keep her veil on for her Fla. driver's license photo.

That was ridiculous. It was also only one incident, highly publicized...
of course by the "liberal biased media."

... That's
what I'm talking about when I say foreigners today don't want to
assimilate.

Some don't, but most do. After all, they came here for jobs and a better
chance for their children.

.... In southern states that boarder Mexico where Mexicans have
won political office they have passed laws to changed the official
language of the town or city to Spanish. Is that joining up?


Sort of like the way a 1% vote margin gave President Bush a mandate to
stack the Supreme Court to overturn Roe vs. Wade? And let's not forget,
Texas & New Mexico & Nevada & California were originally a part of
Mexico anyway. If they can summon a voting majority, then let them
change what they will. It's democracy. I guess Anglo-Saxon descended
people who can't stand it will either have to get up and vote more, or
move out.

DSK

In article .com,
rgnmstr wrote:
Dang, Loco, did you really write that? You wear one o' them pointy
hoods
too? ..

Well Doug that's a nice accusation. My gripe is not with legal
immigration. It's with the millions who just walk in every year
illegally. My gripe is with the criminals and thugs who walk in
illegally every year and that's a fact. My gripe is with the illegals
who get here and want everything changed to accomadate THEM. They
don't want to learn the language. They don't want to take a
citizenship test. They just want to run for office so they can change
things to suit themselves. They don't want to join America. Does your
accusation mean you approve of breaking the law?

I think it's more of an economic issue in Mexico and south than it is
criminal intent. I don't think it's possible to close the border
logistically speaking. If the number were reduced due to improved
conditions below the border, then it would be much, much easier to
enforce border integrity. We don't have much of a border issue from
Canada in a large part because of the better economic condition
there.

My experience with Mexican nationals in the US is that they
desperately want a better life for themselves and their families, and
will take just about any job or surmount any hardship to accomplish
that. Most do have some English language skills, but are not really
given much opportunity to learn in a formal way. Some would like to
bar their kids from going to school. This makes no sense, since it
perpetuates the situation.

I like the idea of a guest worker program, but this isn't the entire
solution. In many ways, the US would not be able to function without
the kind of workers that are now here illegally.






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I think it's more of an economic issue in Mexico and south than it
is
criminal intent.

Exactly. Until Mexico changes someday and eliminates corruption
nothing will change. Millions have been invested in Mexico and the
masses still don't have jobs. The rulling class got richer though.
Also, although many talk about the willingness of Mexicans to work many
companies have tried to set up shop in Mexico only to decide afterwards
they have to leave because of the poor quality of workmanship. Lionel
Trains tried manufacturing in Mexico and had to quit after only a few
years. Where did they go? China. A number of southern Calif. boat
builders tried Mexico. They also left. Along with poor quality every
gov. dimwit in Mexico has his hand out. You gotta wonder about a
country that has a president who gives a neighboring country **** for
not wanting millions of his people to stream across their boarder. Why
would a president want people to leave?