"Donal" wrote in message

Max, I believe that everyone should pay their own way.

I'm angered by the fact that I have to subsidise people who claim that
they
are unable to work. I get *very* angry when somebody gets *sick pay* when
they take a couple of days off sick with *influenza*.

Wooooo... you're gonna be ****ed at me then!! I can work anytime I want to
but prefer to be a burden on society by drawing unemployment benefits until
it suits me to return to work. Currently the government is paying me to do
nothing .... which pleases me to no end!!

CM

Yeh, you're a neocon, but that's not a conservative. Wow, you're an expert
at everything. You remind me of horvath.

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"JG" wrote in message

Well, Maxipad, in your twisted view, I'm sure you're right.

But of course. You're just now facing that realization?

"Favoring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change."

In a classical sense, perhaps, but not in the more contemporary political
reality. DSK calls us *neocons.*

Like destroying the Earth and the people on it is opposing change. Got
it.

I suspect I'm a more ardent environmentalist than thou, Jon. Are you a
member of Greenpeace? How about The Sierra Club? Do you donate funds to
The Nature Conservancy? Have you ever done reforestation plantings? Have
you given talks to school-age children about saving our virgin forests,
our wildlife refuges? Have you spent personal funds fighting for cleaner
air and water? Have you participated in the crude-spill cleanups and
attempted to save affected birds and other wildlife? Have you stood in
front of bulldozers and earthmovers to prevent them from ripping up
pristine natural lands? Have you donated personal, professional services
to peoples of Third World countries, at your own expense?

I didn't think so. I've done all those things, and more.

Max

"Donal" wrote in message

"Maxprop" wrote in message

Donal is a liberal, and one of the prime definitions of liberals is those
who wish to institute great giveaway programs, but want someone else to
pay for them.


Max, I believe that everyone should pay their own way.

Uh huh. Sure.


I'm angered by the fact that I have to subsidise people who claim that
they
are unable to work. I get *very* angry when somebody gets *sick pay* when
they take a couple of days off sick with *influenza*.

Don't let your blood pressure get into the red zone, you mindless, clueless
jerk. I'm self-employed. Yes, my staff and my practice did suffer
financially by my absence, but you obviously have never had a genuine
influenza, or you'd not be defecating from your pie-hole about things you so
obviously know absolutely nothing about.

Wanna talk about irresponsibility? How about those doctors that continue to
see patients while shedding influenza virus? Epidemics have resulted from
such negligence. Influenza is consistently among the top ten killers
worldwide. The Hong Kong flu of the mid-70s killed more than half a
million. The Port Chalmers flu killed about half that many. Type A
influenza kills roughly 50,000 annually, and Type B somewhat less, primarily
because it is rarer.

You'd be well-advise to put a cork in it, lest you appear a bigger asshole
than most of us already acknowledge you to be.

Max

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message


"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"JG" wrote in message

Well, Maxipad, in your twisted view, I'm sure you're right.

But of course. You're just now facing that realization?

"Favoring traditional views and values; tending to oppose change."

In a classical sense, perhaps, but not in the more contemporary political
reality. DSK calls us *neocons.*

Like destroying the Earth and the people on it is opposing change. Got
it.

I suspect I'm a more ardent environmentalist than thou, Jon. Are you a
member of Greenpeace? How about The Sierra Club? Do you donate funds to
The Nature Conservancy? Have you ever done reforestation plantings?
Have you given talks to school-age children about saving our virgin
forests, our wildlife refuges? Have you spent personal funds fighting
for cleaner air and water? Have you participated in the crude-spill
cleanups and attempted to save affected birds and other wildlife? Have
you stood in front of bulldozers and earthmovers to prevent them from
ripping up pristine natural lands? Have you donated personal,
professional services to peoples of Third World countries, at your own
expense?

I didn't think so. I've done all those things, and more.

Thou are a TREE HUGGER... Maxprop!

Guilty as charged.

Max

"JG" wrote in message

Yeh, you're a neocon, but that's not a conservative.

"A rose by any other name . . ." Simply that you and others choose to
re-label us does not make it so, or valid.

Wow, you're an expert at everything.

Are you always so intimidated by those who've accomplished far more than
you?

You remind me of horvath.

Another who's accomplished far more than thou.

Really, Jon, you shouldn't allow an inferiority complex to be so all
encompassing.

Max

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message

"Donal" wrote in message

Max, I believe that everyone should pay their own way.

I'm angered by the fact that I have to subsidise people who claim that
they
are unable to work. I get *very* angry when somebody gets *sick pay*
when
they take a couple of days off sick with *influenza*.

Wooooo... you're gonna be ****ed at me then!! I can work anytime I want
to but prefer to be a burden on society by drawing unemployment benefits
until it suits me to return to work. Currently the government is paying me
to do nothing .... which pleases me to no end!!

Donal, obviously, is unaware of the trend of most employers to lump sick
days, bereavement time off, vacations, etc. all into a general category of
*personal days.* The employee gets a given number of PDs, and if he exceeds
them, he does so without pay, and if it becomes habitual it becomes grounds
for dismissal. Guess Ireland lagging a bit in this regard.

Max

Dopey, you're a fool if you actually think that you're representative of the
neocons now in DC. They don't give a crap about the environment or social
issues. They only care about big business and religious right.

You haven't accomplished anything that I can tell. Why don't you make a
comprehensive list and get back to us.
(Hovath's major accomplishment is that he was hoodwinked into buying a piece
of crap hunter.)

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www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"JG" wrote in message

Yeh, you're a neocon, but that's not a conservative.

"A rose by any other name . . ." Simply that you and others choose to
re-label us does not make it so, or valid.

Wow, you're an expert at everything.

Are you always so intimidated by those who've accomplished far more than
you?

You remind me of horvath.

Another who's accomplished far more than thou.

Really, Jon, you shouldn't allow an inferiority complex to be so all
encompassing.

Max

Bwaahahahahaha.... Maxipad is about to pop a cork. He never actually did
have the flu, but he's got his made up diploma from Whatsamatter U.

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www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
k.net...

"Donal" wrote in message

"Maxprop" wrote in message

Donal is a liberal, and one of the prime definitions of liberals is
those
who wish to institute great giveaway programs, but want someone else to
pay for them.


Max, I believe that everyone should pay their own way.

Uh huh. Sure.


I'm angered by the fact that I have to subsidise people who claim that
they
are unable to work. I get *very* angry when somebody gets *sick pay*
when
they take a couple of days off sick with *influenza*.

Don't let your blood pressure get into the red zone, you mindless,
clueless jerk. I'm self-employed. Yes, my staff and my practice did
suffer financially by my absence, but you obviously have never had a
genuine influenza, or you'd not be defecating from your pie-hole about
things you so obviously know absolutely nothing about.

Wanna talk about irresponsibility? How about those doctors that continue
to see patients while shedding influenza virus? Epidemics have resulted
from such negligence. Influenza is consistently among the top ten killers
worldwide. The Hong Kong flu of the mid-70s killed more than half a
million. The Port Chalmers flu killed about half that many. Type A
influenza kills roughly 50,000 annually, and Type B somewhat less,
primarily because it is rarer.

You'd be well-advise to put a cork in it, lest you appear a bigger asshole
than most of us already acknowledge you to be.

Max

"JG" wrote in message

Dopey, you're a fool if you actually think that you're representative of
the neocons now in DC. They don't give a crap about the environment or
social issues. They only care about big business and religious right.

You're right. Only a fool believes that Washington truly represents his
beliefs, or vice versa. The Executive and Legislative branches are the most
powerful self-interest groups in existence. They primarily exist for
themselves, not for us. If you believe otherwise, you've been duped.

I really don't know what a neocon is in your vernacular, nor do I care. But
I've recently (last ten years) become a fiscal conservative, which is not
much in line with the Bush spending habits, but wishing for tax relief and a
major reining-in of government give-away programs and spending in general.
I'd like to see the size of government diminshed greatly from its present
iteration. I've alwasy been a social moderate which is not much in line
with the Bush administration either, except w/r/t the rights of the unborn
and opposition to gun control. I didn't vote for Kerry, mostly because his
voting showed him to be a potentially bigger spender than Bush, loving every
federal give-away program that ever saw the light of day. Further, I knew
there was no hope for tax relief under Kerry, and probably the opposite
would have been the case if he'd had a democrat congress as well. As for
social issues, Kerry probably was too far left of my views, but then W is
too far right. I don't support the religious right (an extremist group) nor
do I support any left-wing extremist groups, with the exception of the
environmental ones.


You haven't accomplished anything that I can tell. Why don't you make a
comprehensive list and get back to us.

Poor Jon. Hey there big guy, it's really not a crime to be an
underachiever. Don't be so hard on yourself.

(Hovath's major accomplishment is that he was hoodwinked into buying a
piece of crap hunter.)

Um, what is the size of that Hunter? What size is your boat?

Max

"JG" wrote in message

Bwaahahahahaha.... Maxipad is about to pop a cork. He never actually did
have the flu, but he's got his made up diploma from Whatsamatter U.

Whatsamatta U. is, and has been, Western Michigan University at Kalamazoo.
And no, I never attended there. I attended the University of Wyoming, Ball
State University (Bachelor of Science in Business) and Indiana University
(Doctor of Optometry).

What are your credentials, Jon?

Max