Have you ever had 1/2" hail driven at you at 35 mph? I thought not...now go
take a nap and restore yourself...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

"katysails" wrote in message
...
The meteorology is the thing....it is so changeable that it is difficult
to
get an accurate forecast...the Great Lakes region is known by NOAA to
have
some of the most challenging meteorological problems in the
world....there
is one section of Lake Michigan, the Little Pointe Sable area, that
defies
forecasting...the rest of the lake can be perking right along in a normal
fashion and you get within a mile of this area and all hell breaks
lose...the topography of the land does a lot to make this happen, as does
the corresponding topography over in WI....confused water, freaky wind
patterns...our own little "rounding the Horn"...add to that the
windstorms
that we get off the great plains and the humidity levels that produce
huge
convection storms, it can be a real picnic out there...one year we were
toodling along quite happily and all of a sudden this black roll cloud
appeared in the west...there had been no forecast of any violent frontal
movements and the sun had been shining. We ran for our foulies and
reduced
sail. Ever been pelted by 1/2 inch hail? Was not a fun
experience....and
within 10 minutes of winds leaping from a lovely 10 to 35 ...and then it
was
over....summer squall...


Oh my! Thirty-five mile per hour winds! Surely winds such as that will
strip the flesh from one's bones. Bwahahahhahahahhhahhhaha aha ha hahh
ahah ah hah ah ha ha hah ha ha hh aahahhahah ah hah aah !

C'mon, Katy. Thirty-five mph winds are fair winds for us Trade Wind
sailors. Learn how to reef your sails quickly and carry on.

CN

It took more time for you to write that then you sailed all year...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
I've got more time in the Gulf Stream than you have
in your boat. Anyone familiar with the Gulf Stream
knows full well that the seas there grow to stupendous
proportions when the wind is against the current.

I've sailed in waves as large as those shown in some
of those pictures and had no trouble controlling my
yacht. It's all about a balanced sail plan and the
proper square footage of sail for the wind conditions.

Your statements prove to me that you NEVER have
sailed in large seas because if you had you would
know that most of the hype about them is just hype.

You would also know that the ride in a small, properly
sailed yacht in the 27-30 foot range is very much more
comfortable than the motion on larger motor vessels
that pitch, roll and yaw in an almost uncontrollable
manner.

Pitching in a small vessel such as mine is worse in a
heavy chop in shallow water than it is in large seas
the period of which is long enough that pitching is
barely noticed. In heavy winds and seas I do not
attempt to go to weather. I'm not stupid so I go
off the wind enough to make things as comfortable as
possible.

Screaming into the trough is stupid and unnecessary.
Why do you do it? I do not. It is easy to sail across
the wind so the trough comes at your vessel at an
oblique enough angle to eliminate the danger of a
broach. Another thing, again, is that balanced sail
plan. Any time I see a monohull sloop attempting to
sail under mainsail alone like the photo that was
posted I quickly understand that the skipper of that
vessel has forgotten how to balance the helm no
matter how great a reputation he or his vessel
might enjoy. You cannot possibly look at a picture
of a vessel being tossed sideways because it
cannot be sailed because of an unbalanced
sail plan and conclude anything other than the
captain and crew is either not paying attention
or they are just plain lazy and inept.

Those are the facts. I could care less if you
agree with them or not. You are an amateur compared
to me. Anybody who uses Maxprop for a name is no
sailor.

Go motor up and down the Intracoastal with Mr. King
and the other trawler sailors.

CN

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

Not so! Those huge waves have little effect upon a small
yacht under a reasonable press of sail to keep her stable.

This statement clearly demonstrates that you've never been in much of a
seaway in a small vessel, despite what you claim. Roll, controlled by
sail
pressure, has very little to do with it. Pitch is the problem. It's
like
riding a roller coaster--if one isn't belted in to a coaster, the odds of
flying out of the car are good. Same with a small vessel cresting waves
and
then plummeting into the trough of steep, tall waves. And if the sea is
confused, no amount of wind pressure on the sails will stop a vessel from
rolling violently as well. Add that to the roller coaster effect and
you've
got your basic Maytag dryer set on high.

Of course, in those conditions, the yacht will be sailing
off the wind so the period of the waves becomes longer.

The vessel will be sailing off the wind only if she is not attempting to
claw off and away from a lee shore. Of course then the issue of
broaching
comes to the fore. Most yachts do best when running with steep waves
while
towing lines or a sea anchor. Screaming into a trough on the diagonal is
a
quick and dirty recipe for a broach.

The properly sailed small yacht will only be bothered
but the breakers atop those huge waves.

LOL. You really haven't been there, have you?

Those breakers
tend to slosh green water into the cockpit, I have found.
One must always keep the washboard in and battened
down.


Those idiot motorvessels seem to be pounding straight
into the waves which seems stupid to me. Why don't they
fall off a bit and take the waves diagonally. They would
have a smoother ride and might even be able to make
some headway.

Primarily because steeply-pitched waves can roll a planing craft over on
its
beam ends just after cresting a steep wave, especially if the boat is
either
relatively short in length or narrow of beam though longer. Of course
running with the sea or heading into it can pitchpole a small planing
vessel
as well. Frankly big, steep waves are no place to be in a smallish
powerboat.

Max

Seasonal Affective Disorder got you down?

I am going sailing Christmas day. Are You?

CN


"katysails" wrote in message ...
It took more time for you to write that then you sailed all year...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
I've got more time in the Gulf Stream than you have
in your boat. Anyone familiar with the Gulf Stream
knows full well that the seas there grow to stupendous
proportions when the wind is against the current.

I've sailed in waves as large as those shown in some
of those pictures and had no trouble controlling my
yacht. It's all about a balanced sail plan and the
proper square footage of sail for the wind conditions.

Your statements prove to me that you NEVER have
sailed in large seas because if you had you would
know that most of the hype about them is just hype.

You would also know that the ride in a small, properly
sailed yacht in the 27-30 foot range is very much more
comfortable than the motion on larger motor vessels
that pitch, roll and yaw in an almost uncontrollable
manner.

Pitching in a small vessel such as mine is worse in a
heavy chop in shallow water than it is in large seas
the period of which is long enough that pitching is
barely noticed. In heavy winds and seas I do not
attempt to go to weather. I'm not stupid so I go
off the wind enough to make things as comfortable as
possible.

Screaming into the trough is stupid and unnecessary.
Why do you do it? I do not. It is easy to sail across
the wind so the trough comes at your vessel at an
oblique enough angle to eliminate the danger of a
broach. Another thing, again, is that balanced sail
plan. Any time I see a monohull sloop attempting to
sail under mainsail alone like the photo that was
posted I quickly understand that the skipper of that
vessel has forgotten how to balance the helm no
matter how great a reputation he or his vessel
might enjoy. You cannot possibly look at a picture
of a vessel being tossed sideways because it
cannot be sailed because of an unbalanced
sail plan and conclude anything other than the
captain and crew is either not paying attention
or they are just plain lazy and inept.

Those are the facts. I could care less if you
agree with them or not. You are an amateur compared
to me. Anybody who uses Maxprop for a name is no
sailor.

Go motor up and down the Intracoastal with Mr. King
and the other trawler sailors.

CN

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

Not so! Those huge waves have little effect upon a small
yacht under a reasonable press of sail to keep her stable.

This statement clearly demonstrates that you've never been in much of a
seaway in a small vessel, despite what you claim. Roll, controlled by
sail
pressure, has very little to do with it. Pitch is the problem. It's
like
riding a roller coaster--if one isn't belted in to a coaster, the odds of
flying out of the car are good. Same with a small vessel cresting waves
and
then plummeting into the trough of steep, tall waves. And if the sea is
confused, no amount of wind pressure on the sails will stop a vessel from
rolling violently as well. Add that to the roller coaster effect and
you've
got your basic Maytag dryer set on high.

Of course, in those conditions, the yacht will be sailing
off the wind so the period of the waves becomes longer.

The vessel will be sailing off the wind only if she is not attempting to
claw off and away from a lee shore. Of course then the issue of
broaching
comes to the fore. Most yachts do best when running with steep waves
while
towing lines or a sea anchor. Screaming into a trough on the diagonal is
a
quick and dirty recipe for a broach.

The properly sailed small yacht will only be bothered
but the breakers atop those huge waves.

LOL. You really haven't been there, have you?

Those breakers
tend to slosh green water into the cockpit, I have found.
One must always keep the washboard in and battened
down.


Those idiot motorvessels seem to be pounding straight
into the waves which seems stupid to me. Why don't they
fall off a bit and take the waves diagonally. They would
have a smoother ride and might even be able to make
some headway.

Primarily because steeply-pitched waves can roll a planing craft over on
its
beam ends just after cresting a steep wave, especially if the boat is
either
relatively short in length or narrow of beam though longer. Of course
running with the sea or heading into it can pitchpole a small planing
vessel
as well. Frankly big, steep waves are no place to be in a smallish
powerboat.

Max

From an elementary school science site:

http://www.astronomycafe.net/qadir/q2792.html

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

Actually they do have tides, albiet almost imperceptible. Near the
equator
the oceans have very little tide. So what?


Bwahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahah! Lord but you are ignorant. What makes
you think there is very little tide near the Equator?

Simple physics proves how stupid your statement really is. The pull of
gravity from the Moon and Sun raises the tides. The pull is the even
greater at the Equator than at higher latitudes because the Earth
surface at the Equator is closer to the Moon and Sun than the higher
latitudes. Hence gravity is slightly stronger there, hence the tides
are actually higher.

Some sailor you are! Go stand in the corner.

CN

Overly simplified. As I said the Sun also creates tides.

CN


"katysails" wrote in message ...
From an elementary school science site:

http://www.astronomycafe.net/qadir/q2792.html

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

Actually they do have tides, albiet almost imperceptible. Near the
equator
the oceans have very little tide. So what?


Bwahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahah! Lord but you are ignorant. What makes
you think there is very little tide near the Equator?

Simple physics proves how stupid your statement really is. The pull of
gravity from the Moon and Sun raises the tides. The pull is the even
greater at the Equator than at higher latitudes because the Earth
surface at the Equator is closer to the Moon and Sun than the higher
latitudes. Hence gravity is slightly stronger there, hence the tides
are actually higher.

Some sailor you are! Go stand in the corner.

CN

Jeff Morris wrote:

Nav wrote:

Jeff Morris wrote:

The tides at the equator are also reduced by the fact that they
actually lag the moon by 6 hours. This is caused by the fact that
the "tidal wave" cannot move fast enough through the ocean to keep up.



Care to explain that?


One explanation I've seen is that the average depth of the ocean does
not allow the wave to propagate fast enough at the Equator.
http://www.marktovey.co.uk/tidesfull.html#Q16

I've also seen it described in term of the "natural resonance" of the
ocean at the equator, which is 30 hours, while the Moon's rotation is a
bit over 12 hours, but I'm sure this comes down to the same thing.

What I haven't seen described in detail is exactly how much this affect
reduces the tides.


Exactly and it does -a lot I think (although I've not done/seen any
maths on this). The wavelength of the tidal resosnance is 1/2 the earth.
For a trochoidal wave this would imply a huge natural crest - peak
depth. The oceans are simnply not deep enough to allow full development
of such a wave (IMHO) of course. This impedes the propagation of the
wave (as do the continents).

Cheers

I'll be sailing offshore I hope. You?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:

Seasonal Affective Disorder got you down?

I am going sailing Christmas day. Are You?

CN


"katysails" wrote in message ...

It took more time for you to write that then you sailed all year...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

I've got more time in the Gulf Stream than you have
in your boat. Anyone familiar with the Gulf Stream
knows full well that the seas there grow to stupendous
proportions when the wind is against the current.

I've sailed in waves as large as those shown in some
of those pictures and had no trouble controlling my
yacht. It's all about a balanced sail plan and the
proper square footage of sail for the wind conditions.

Your statements prove to me that you NEVER have
sailed in large seas because if you had you would
know that most of the hype about them is just hype.

You would also know that the ride in a small, properly
sailed yacht in the 27-30 foot range is very much more
comfortable than the motion on larger motor vessels
that pitch, roll and yaw in an almost uncontrollable
manner.

Pitching in a small vessel such as mine is worse in a
heavy chop in shallow water than it is in large seas
the period of which is long enough that pitching is
barely noticed. In heavy winds and seas I do not
attempt to go to weather. I'm not stupid so I go
off the wind enough to make things as comfortable as
possible.

Screaming into the trough is stupid and unnecessary.
Why do you do it? I do not. It is easy to sail across
the wind so the trough comes at your vessel at an
oblique enough angle to eliminate the danger of a
broach. Another thing, again, is that balanced sail
plan. Any time I see a monohull sloop attempting to
sail under mainsail alone like the photo that was
posted I quickly understand that the skipper of that
vessel has forgotten how to balance the helm no
matter how great a reputation he or his vessel
might enjoy. You cannot possibly look at a picture
of a vessel being tossed sideways because it
cannot be sailed because of an unbalanced
sail plan and conclude anything other than the
captain and crew is either not paying attention
or they are just plain lazy and inept.

Those are the facts. I could care less if you
agree with them or not. You are an amateur compared
to me. Anybody who uses Maxprop for a name is no
sailor.

Go motor up and down the Intracoastal with Mr. King
and the other trawler sailors.

CN

"Maxprop" wrote in message
thlink.net...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message


Not so! Those huge waves have little effect upon a small
yacht under a reasonable press of sail to keep her stable.

This statement clearly demonstrates that you've never been in much of a
seaway in a small vessel, despite what you claim. Roll, controlled by
sail
pressure, has very little to do with it. Pitch is the problem. It's
like
riding a roller coaster--if one isn't belted in to a coaster, the odds of
flying out of the car are good. Same with a small vessel cresting waves
and
then plummeting into the trough of steep, tall waves. And if the sea is
confused, no amount of wind pressure on the sails will stop a vessel from
rolling violently as well. Add that to the roller coaster effect and
you've
got your basic Maytag dryer set on high.


Of course, in those conditions, the yacht will be sailing
off the wind so the period of the waves becomes longer.

The vessel will be sailing off the wind only if she is not attempting to
claw off and away from a lee shore. Of course then the issue of
broaching
comes to the fore. Most yachts do best when running with steep waves
while
towing lines or a sea anchor. Screaming into a trough on the diagonal is
a
quick and dirty recipe for a broach.


The properly sailed small yacht will only be bothered
but the breakers atop those huge waves.

LOL. You really haven't been there, have you?


Those breakers
tend to slosh green water into the cockpit, I have found.
One must always keep the washboard in and battened
down.


Those idiot motorvessels seem to be pounding straight
into the waves which seems stupid to me. Why don't they
fall off a bit and take the waves diagonally. They would
have a smoother ride and might even be able to make
some headway.

Primarily because steeply-pitched waves can roll a planing craft over on
its
beam ends just after cresting a steep wave, especially if the boat is
either
relatively short in length or narrow of beam though longer. Of course
running with the sea or heading into it can pitchpole a small planing
vessel
as well. Frankly big, steep waves are no place to be in a smallish
powerboat.

Max

Nope...I'm gonna have fun with my granddaughters....I'm going to watch them
open presents and have a good time and be very thankful that they are
alive....My Christmas will be much better than yours.

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Seasonal Affective Disorder got you down?

I am going sailing Christmas day. Are You?

CN


"katysails" wrote in message
...
It took more time for you to write that then you sailed all year...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
I've got more time in the Gulf Stream than you have
in your boat. Anyone familiar with the Gulf Stream
knows full well that the seas there grow to stupendous
proportions when the wind is against the current.

I've sailed in waves as large as those shown in some
of those pictures and had no trouble controlling my
yacht. It's all about a balanced sail plan and the
proper square footage of sail for the wind conditions.

Your statements prove to me that you NEVER have
sailed in large seas because if you had you would
know that most of the hype about them is just hype.

You would also know that the ride in a small, properly
sailed yacht in the 27-30 foot range is very much more
comfortable than the motion on larger motor vessels
that pitch, roll and yaw in an almost uncontrollable
manner.

Pitching in a small vessel such as mine is worse in a
heavy chop in shallow water than it is in large seas
the period of which is long enough that pitching is
barely noticed. In heavy winds and seas I do not
attempt to go to weather. I'm not stupid so I go
off the wind enough to make things as comfortable as
possible.

Screaming into the trough is stupid and unnecessary.
Why do you do it? I do not. It is easy to sail across
the wind so the trough comes at your vessel at an
oblique enough angle to eliminate the danger of a
broach. Another thing, again, is that balanced sail
plan. Any time I see a monohull sloop attempting to
sail under mainsail alone like the photo that was
posted I quickly understand that the skipper of that
vessel has forgotten how to balance the helm no
matter how great a reputation he or his vessel
might enjoy. You cannot possibly look at a picture
of a vessel being tossed sideways because it
cannot be sailed because of an unbalanced
sail plan and conclude anything other than the
captain and crew is either not paying attention
or they are just plain lazy and inept.

Those are the facts. I could care less if you
agree with them or not. You are an amateur compared
to me. Anybody who uses Maxprop for a name is no
sailor.

Go motor up and down the Intracoastal with Mr. King
and the other trawler sailors.

CN

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

Not so! Those huge waves have little effect upon a small
yacht under a reasonable press of sail to keep her stable.

This statement clearly demonstrates that you've never been in much of
a
seaway in a small vessel, despite what you claim. Roll, controlled by
sail
pressure, has very little to do with it. Pitch is the problem. It's
like
riding a roller coaster--if one isn't belted in to a coaster, the odds
of
flying out of the car are good. Same with a small vessel cresting
waves
and
then plummeting into the trough of steep, tall waves. And if the sea
is
confused, no amount of wind pressure on the sails will stop a vessel
from
rolling violently as well. Add that to the roller coaster effect and
you've
got your basic Maytag dryer set on high.

Of course, in those conditions, the yacht will be sailing
off the wind so the period of the waves becomes longer.

The vessel will be sailing off the wind only if she is not attempting
to
claw off and away from a lee shore. Of course then the issue of
broaching
comes to the fore. Most yachts do best when running with steep waves
while
towing lines or a sea anchor. Screaming into a trough on the diagonal
is
a
quick and dirty recipe for a broach.

The properly sailed small yacht will only be bothered
but the breakers atop those huge waves.

LOL. You really haven't been there, have you?

Those breakers
tend to slosh green water into the cockpit, I have found.
One must always keep the washboard in and battened
down.


Those idiot motorvessels seem to be pounding straight
into the waves which seems stupid to me. Why don't they
fall off a bit and take the waves diagonally. They would
have a smoother ride and might even be able to make
some headway.

Primarily because steeply-pitched waves can roll a planing craft over
on
its
beam ends just after cresting a steep wave, especially if the boat is
either
relatively short in length or narrow of beam though longer. Of course
running with the sea or heading into it can pitchpole a small planing
vessel
as well. Frankly big, steep waves are no place to be in a smallish
powerboat.

Max

Depends on the weather were I go.

CN

"Nav" wrote in message ...
I'll be sailing offshore I hope. You?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:

Seasonal Affective Disorder got you down?

I am going sailing Christmas day. Are You?

CN


"katysails" wrote in message ...

It took more time for you to write that then you sailed all year...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

I've got more time in the Gulf Stream than you have
in your boat. Anyone familiar with the Gulf Stream
knows full well that the seas there grow to stupendous
proportions when the wind is against the current.

I've sailed in waves as large as those shown in some
of those pictures and had no trouble controlling my
yacht. It's all about a balanced sail plan and the
proper square footage of sail for the wind conditions.

Your statements prove to me that you NEVER have
sailed in large seas because if you had you would
know that most of the hype about them is just hype.

You would also know that the ride in a small, properly
sailed yacht in the 27-30 foot range is very much more
comfortable than the motion on larger motor vessels
that pitch, roll and yaw in an almost uncontrollable
manner.

Pitching in a small vessel such as mine is worse in a
heavy chop in shallow water than it is in large seas
the period of which is long enough that pitching is
barely noticed. In heavy winds and seas I do not
attempt to go to weather. I'm not stupid so I go
off the wind enough to make things as comfortable as
possible.

Screaming into the trough is stupid and unnecessary.
Why do you do it? I do not. It is easy to sail across
the wind so the trough comes at your vessel at an
oblique enough angle to eliminate the danger of a
broach. Another thing, again, is that balanced sail
plan. Any time I see a monohull sloop attempting to
sail under mainsail alone like the photo that was
posted I quickly understand that the skipper of that
vessel has forgotten how to balance the helm no
matter how great a reputation he or his vessel
might enjoy. You cannot possibly look at a picture
of a vessel being tossed sideways because it
cannot be sailed because of an unbalanced
sail plan and conclude anything other than the
captain and crew is either not paying attention
or they are just plain lazy and inept.

Those are the facts. I could care less if you
agree with them or not. You are an amateur compared
to me. Anybody who uses Maxprop for a name is no
sailor.

Go motor up and down the Intracoastal with Mr. King
and the other trawler sailors.

CN

"Maxprop" wrote in message
thlink.net...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message


Not so! Those huge waves have little effect upon a small
yacht under a reasonable press of sail to keep her stable.

This statement clearly demonstrates that you've never been in much of a
seaway in a small vessel, despite what you claim. Roll, controlled by
sail
pressure, has very little to do with it. Pitch is the problem. It's
like
riding a roller coaster--if one isn't belted in to a coaster, the odds of
flying out of the car are good. Same with a small vessel cresting waves
and
then plummeting into the trough of steep, tall waves. And if the sea is
confused, no amount of wind pressure on the sails will stop a vessel from
rolling violently as well. Add that to the roller coaster effect and
you've
got your basic Maytag dryer set on high.


Of course, in those conditions, the yacht will be sailing
off the wind so the period of the waves becomes longer.

The vessel will be sailing off the wind only if she is not attempting to
claw off and away from a lee shore. Of course then the issue of
broaching
comes to the fore. Most yachts do best when running with steep waves
while
towing lines or a sea anchor. Screaming into a trough on the diagonal is
a
quick and dirty recipe for a broach.


The properly sailed small yacht will only be bothered
but the breakers atop those huge waves.

LOL. You really haven't been there, have you?


Those breakers
tend to slosh green water into the cockpit, I have found.
One must always keep the washboard in and battened
down.


Those idiot motorvessels seem to be pounding straight
into the waves which seems stupid to me. Why don't they
fall off a bit and take the waves diagonally. They would
have a smoother ride and might even be able to make
some headway.

Primarily because steeply-pitched waves can roll a planing craft over on
its
beam ends just after cresting a steep wave, especially if the boat is
either
relatively short in length or narrow of beam though longer. Of course
running with the sea or heading into it can pitchpole a small planing
vessel
as well. Frankly big, steep waves are no place to be in a smallish
powerboat.

Max

Yes, Grandma! Bwahahahhahahhahahahhah!

Give them a hug for me. I don't have any
children or grandchildren with whom to
enjoy Christmas. Bah, humbug!

CN


"katysails" wrote in message ...
Nope...I'm gonna have fun with my granddaughters....I'm going to watch them
open presents and have a good time and be very thankful that they are
alive....My Christmas will be much better than yours.

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Seasonal Affective Disorder got you down?

I am going sailing Christmas day. Are You?

CN


"katysails" wrote in message
...
It took more time for you to write that then you sailed all year...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
I've got more time in the Gulf Stream than you have
in your boat. Anyone familiar with the Gulf Stream
knows full well that the seas there grow to stupendous
proportions when the wind is against the current.

I've sailed in waves as large as those shown in some
of those pictures and had no trouble controlling my
yacht. It's all about a balanced sail plan and the
proper square footage of sail for the wind conditions.

Your statements prove to me that you NEVER have
sailed in large seas because if you had you would
know that most of the hype about them is just hype.

You would also know that the ride in a small, properly
sailed yacht in the 27-30 foot range is very much more
comfortable than the motion on larger motor vessels
that pitch, roll and yaw in an almost uncontrollable
manner.

Pitching in a small vessel such as mine is worse in a
heavy chop in shallow water than it is in large seas
the period of which is long enough that pitching is
barely noticed. In heavy winds and seas I do not
attempt to go to weather. I'm not stupid so I go
off the wind enough to make things as comfortable as
possible.

Screaming into the trough is stupid and unnecessary.
Why do you do it? I do not. It is easy to sail across
the wind so the trough comes at your vessel at an
oblique enough angle to eliminate the danger of a
broach. Another thing, again, is that balanced sail
plan. Any time I see a monohull sloop attempting to
sail under mainsail alone like the photo that was
posted I quickly understand that the skipper of that
vessel has forgotten how to balance the helm no
matter how great a reputation he or his vessel
might enjoy. You cannot possibly look at a picture
of a vessel being tossed sideways because it
cannot be sailed because of an unbalanced
sail plan and conclude anything other than the
captain and crew is either not paying attention
or they are just plain lazy and inept.

Those are the facts. I could care less if you
agree with them or not. You are an amateur compared
to me. Anybody who uses Maxprop for a name is no
sailor.

Go motor up and down the Intracoastal with Mr. King
and the other trawler sailors.

CN

"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

Not so! Those huge waves have little effect upon a small
yacht under a reasonable press of sail to keep her stable.

This statement clearly demonstrates that you've never been in much of
a
seaway in a small vessel, despite what you claim. Roll, controlled by
sail
pressure, has very little to do with it. Pitch is the problem. It's
like
riding a roller coaster--if one isn't belted in to a coaster, the odds
of
flying out of the car are good. Same with a small vessel cresting
waves
and
then plummeting into the trough of steep, tall waves. And if the sea
is
confused, no amount of wind pressure on the sails will stop a vessel
from
rolling violently as well. Add that to the roller coaster effect and
you've
got your basic Maytag dryer set on high.

Of course, in those conditions, the yacht will be sailing
off the wind so the period of the waves becomes longer.

The vessel will be sailing off the wind only if she is not attempting
to
claw off and away from a lee shore. Of course then the issue of
broaching
comes to the fore. Most yachts do best when running with steep waves
while
towing lines or a sea anchor. Screaming into a trough on the diagonal
is
a
quick and dirty recipe for a broach.

The properly sailed small yacht will only be bothered
but the breakers atop those huge waves.

LOL. You really haven't been there, have you?

Those breakers
tend to slosh green water into the cockpit, I have found.
One must always keep the washboard in and battened
down.


Those idiot motorvessels seem to be pounding straight
into the waves which seems stupid to me. Why don't they
fall off a bit and take the waves diagonally. They would
have a smoother ride and might even be able to make
some headway.

Primarily because steeply-pitched waves can roll a planing craft over
on
its
beam ends just after cresting a steep wave, especially if the boat is
either
relatively short in length or narrow of beam though longer. Of course
running with the sea or heading into it can pitchpole a small planing
vessel
as well. Frankly big, steep waves are no place to be in a smallish
powerboat.

Max