"Bob Crantz" wrote in message ink.net... At least one picture is fake. I have to admit that one or two surprised me. Which one do you think is a fake? Regards Donal -- |
OzOne wrote in message ... On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 23:12:45 -0000, "Donal" scribbled thusly: As always Oz, your logic is impeccable. I cannot disagree with you. Now that's a change! Xmas spirit? Brown, white, red or bubbly? Really! I thought that you Aussies were proper colonials! Don't you understand sarcasm? I am green with envy when I try to picture the standing ovation that you must have received when you first used that argument at your university debating society! Did you take a bow as the audience cheered? I tend not to associate with those ******s. Their hearts must be broken.... Do you think that those ******s would associate with a (rich / bent) ex-copper? Regards Donal -- |
Thom,
They are inland seas...they are categorized by many as inland seas...and they do have tides...negligible perhaps, but they are there...so go have a drink and calm down before you have a stroke... "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Great Lakes: They are Lakes! They are huge bodies of water! Bigger than a lot of seas! Can be very tough in a bad weather! That doesn't make them anything but a Lake. They are not at sea level. They have no tides. The flow of water is always in the same direction, The outlet is always the same. That is because they are Lakes. Why must they be classified as a Sea? They are Lakes. Lakes to be damn proud of! They are superior Bodies of Water, with their own weather systems. They have their own ship traveling commerce that is busier than most seas in the world. They are a wonder of nature as they are. What have they to gain by being labelled a sea? Ole Thom |
This storm dumped a pile of boats off their cradles at the marina next door
to Crosswinds in Whitehall, MI: http://www.msu.edu/~fujita/tornado/l...rr-report.html An explanation fro U of M: http://www.seismosoc.org/publication...l_69-5_eq.html Make sure you read all of it: http://www.crh.noaa.gov/dtx/wxnow/pr...FNT.0312022331 |
Idiots should have storm jib up and they'd have some control.
Fools are attempting to sail with main alone and cannot overcome the weather helm with their silly little racing rudder and thin keel. CN OzOne wrote in message ... On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:22:57 -0500, Capt. Neal® scribbled thusly: That's why one must sail off the wind and sail under a small, balanced press of sail so one can maneuver in such a way to avoid those breakers. They are not mast height, btw. They are relatively small. Look closely at the pictures. The really huge looking waves are taken looking up from a transom when the bow is in the trough . . . CN Cappy, it's very very obvious that you've never seen anything anywhere like these waves. You might like to look at this pic Cappy. http://www.richardbennett.com.au/ Seas look calm, until you notice that the whole boat is being dragged sideways by the wave that has just passed her....she's a 70footer! Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
"katysails" wrote in message ... Thom, They are inland seas...they are categorized by many as inland seas...and they do have tides...negligible perhaps, but they are there...so go have a drink and calm down before you have a stroke... Sounds to me like the old coot has already had a stroke, several perhaps. CN |
Capt. Neal® wrote: Idiots should have storm jib up and they'd have some control. Fools are attempting to sail with main alone and cannot overcome the weather helm with their silly little racing rudder and thin keel. LOL Cheers |
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message Not so! Those huge waves have little effect upon a small yacht under a reasonable press of sail to keep her stable. This statement clearly demonstrates that you've never been in much of a seaway in a small vessel, despite what you claim. Roll, controlled by sail pressure, has very little to do with it. Pitch is the problem. It's like riding a roller coaster--if one isn't belted in to a coaster, the odds of flying out of the car are good. Same with a small vessel cresting waves and then plummeting into the trough of steep, tall waves. And if the sea is confused, no amount of wind pressure on the sails will stop a vessel from rolling violently as well. Add that to the roller coaster effect and you've got your basic Maytag dryer set on high. Of course, in those conditions, the yacht will be sailing off the wind so the period of the waves becomes longer. The vessel will be sailing off the wind only if she is not attempting to claw off and away from a lee shore. Of course then the issue of broaching comes to the fore. Most yachts do best when running with steep waves while towing lines or a sea anchor. Screaming into a trough on the diagonal is a quick and dirty recipe for a broach. The properly sailed small yacht will only be bothered but the breakers atop those huge waves. LOL. You really haven't been there, have you? Those breakers tend to slosh green water into the cockpit, I have found. One must always keep the washboard in and battened down. Those idiot motorvessels seem to be pounding straight into the waves which seems stupid to me. Why don't they fall off a bit and take the waves diagonally. They would have a smoother ride and might even be able to make some headway. Primarily because steeply-pitched waves can roll a planing craft over on its beam ends just after cresting a steep wave, especially if the boat is either relatively short in length or narrow of beam though longer. Of course running with the sea or heading into it can pitchpole a small planing vessel as well. Frankly big, steep waves are no place to be in a smallish powerboat. Max |
OzOne wrote in message On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 15:51:34 -0500, Capt. Neal® scribbled thusly: Not so! Those huge waves have little effect upon a small yacht under a reasonable press of sail to keep her stable. Of course, in those conditions, the yacht will be sailing off the wind so the period of the waves becomes longer. The properly sailed small yacht will only be bothered but the breakers atop those huge waves. Those breakers tend to slosh green water into the cockpit, I have found. One must always keep the washboard in and battened down. Bwaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaaaa! Cappy, the breakers atop those huge waves will often be above your mast height! They'll pick your little boat up like flicking a fly with your finger! He's been reading too many magazines while tied to that mooring float. Max |
OzOne wrote in message On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 21:25:40 -0500, Capt. Neal® scribbled thusly: Idiots should have storm jib up and they'd have some control. Fools are attempting to sail with main alone and cannot overcome the weather helm with their silly little racing rudder and thin keel. CN Bwaaahahahahahhahahhahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahaa aa! I'll tell em when I wave em off for the next Syd Hobart, I'm sure they'll be impressed that the good Capt can show them how to break all the records they already hold. Bwaaahahhahahahhahahhahahahhahaaa! I just love it. CN, from his tiny Coronado on a mooring somewhere in FL, criticizing a crew racing the Hobart. Stretches one's incredulity, it does. Max |
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