"Scott Vernon" wrote in message

"Maxprop" wrote in


I don't. I ride a BMW. But that's about to come to an end.

Why?

Rancor toward the company. They've put two successive dealerships in our
area out of business within the past 4 years. They essentially set them up
to fail. Their corporate expectations for dealerships are unrealistic,
placing the dealer in a barely workable situation during excellent economic
times, and in an unworkable situation during less-than-ideal economic times.
So now we once again have no dealership in our area. Owners in my area must
now travel 150 miles or more to get their bikes serviced. And BMW USA
couldn't give a rat's ass.

While on the subject of BMW, have you seen the truly ugly cars BMW has been
turning out from the drawing board of Chris Bangle (Bungle)? No doubt our
current 323Ci will be the last BMW auto we own as well.

Max

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 07:22:19 +1000, OzOne wrote this crap:

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:52:05 -0400, Horvath
scribbled thusly:



Here's a picture of my interior:

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...&&ywo=newwave&




Wild party onboard Holly?
Who smashed the port?


Port? That was a fine burgundy that was spilled.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

now now...........a good port is a fine thing.
stayed in king henry's fortelizza in the south of portugal
and a fine port was the thing to have while looking out towards sea across
Sagres.
ain't a finer sight in the world.
gf.


"Horvath" wrote in message
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Port? That was a fine burgundy that was spilled.

Like ALL boats with a centerline dining table the Express's table has folding
leafs. It ain't a problem.

Right, need to get through? Everyone picks up their food, plates and drinks,
lower a leef and your done. How nice.

RB

Loco, Does your boat have the head open to the V? Or is it the version with a
fully enclosed head?

RB

Well, what would you expect from a German co.? My R100S broke a gear
in the tranny this summer. Another winter project. You're not getting
a gag Harley, are you?

I did see a BMW car that reminded me of the hull on a Mac26X. And I
still don't understand the concept of a ''luxury'' SUV. And what's
with the ''bigger is better'' routine with the truck / SUV crowd?
Soon I'll be in style while driving the Pete to the grocery store.

Scotty



"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message

"Maxprop" wrote in


I don't. I ride a BMW. But that's about to come to an end.

Why?

Rancor toward the company. They've put two successive dealerships
in our
area out of business within the past 4 years. They essentially set
them up
to fail. Their corporate expectations for dealerships are
unrealistic,
placing the dealer in a barely workable situation during excellent
economic
times, and in an unworkable situation during less-than-ideal
economic times.
So now we once again have no dealership in our area. Owners in my
area must
now travel 150 miles or more to get their bikes serviced. And BMW
USA
couldn't give a rat's ass.

While on the subject of BMW, have you seen the truly ugly cars BMW
has been
turning out from the drawing board of Chris Bangle (Bungle)? No
doubt our
current 323Ci will be the last BMW auto we own as well.

Max

Nutsy,

I had one boat with a Dinette Lay-out. My first sailboat with a cabin. I
swore it would be my last. I've been true to that.

A Dinette is great when at anchor or in a slip or on a power boat. On a
Sailboat, in a heeled position, it is a waste of space.

In fact, I kind of feel the same way about any table when a boat in
heeled. Classic or Dinette layout. When you're heeled, Dining graciously
is out of the question. It is a one hand to hold and one the feed, a
seat to wedge into. This wedge part is a hell of a lot easier in a
classic layout. Getting rid of the table is a big plus.

That's this fat, old man feelings. For what its worth.

Ole Thom

A Dinette is great when at anchor or in a slip or on a power boat. On a
Sailboat, in a heeled position, it is a waste of space.

What ever are you talking about? Why aren't you on deck when sailing? Underway
we find the quarter berth snug and secure if either of us wants a nap.. At
anchor the dinette is simply fantastic and is far nicer. It also opens to a
very large double. It never blocks off the whole cabin. Sadly, our next boat
has no dinette. Most large boats have a dinette including a Swan 48. Waste of
space? Don't think so!

RB

In fact, I kind of feel the same way about any table when a boat in
heeled. Classic or Dinette layout.

What exactly is the table wasting underway. We find it easy to eat at the table
unless we are VERY heeled and then we're on deck anyway. Aboard Alien, 4 people
can eat and someone can use the head or go forward for sleep without climbing.
Nice. Short of striking table altogether, the dinette is a friend we'll miss.

RB

Nutsy,

For the way you sail, and this isn't a criticism, a boat on a voyage
under sail doesn't need a dinette. Sitting at a 15 degree side slant or
better doesn't make for comfortable eating or even just sitting.

When I brought "Pneuma" she had the most beautiful teak drop leaf table
you would ever see. I said take it out. I had more damn trouble getting
them to remove that damn table than you could imagine. They insisted
that I needed a table. I said, then make a table I can bolt to the wall.
They responded that they could make a hinge table that would swing up
but it wouldn't be much of a table. My reply; "Would it hold two
dishes?" That is what we settled on. I'm happy and I have the Cabin
room I wanted, with the Inside Steering Station

Ole Thom