Sorry, Loco. You just keep LOSING!.

Tee hee ........ right. I took a very comfy very early retirement deal last
January and your still trying to find yourself performing odd jobs. I'm lost
alright.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

None and I've only ever seen TWO in 10 years..

But you said everyone you talked to said they were ugly as if you were showing
them weekly. Then you said no one you talked to has ever seen one. Then you
said ............................
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

It's really nicely done. A well liked feature of many 80's C&Cs.

I've seen plenty of C&Cs and I've never seen a pile of steel handholds bolted
to everything down below. And by the way your tub is a seventies design.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

I own and rent out a three story house in Brooklyn

I'd keep that to myself.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

I've seen plenty of C&Cs and I've never seen a pile of steel handholds bolted
to everything down below.

Like I said, you don't know boats. The feature appears on the 32, 33, 37, 38
from the mid 80s.

RB

I own and rent out a three story house in Brooklyn

I'd keep that to myself.


Why? It's worth more than your home and it's paid for.

RB

Catalina survived. So did Hunter, and McGergor. Are you saying they're
better boat than your C&C?


Cataline and Hunter were tuned into making boats that people wanted. Companies
like C&C and Express failed to do the same. Still, it was a massive fire that
finished C&C for good. Express failed outright because the boats were just not
that appealing.

RB

None and I've only ever seen TWO in 10 years..

But you said everyone you talked to said they were ugly as if you were showing
them weekly.

Everyone who's seen one did say they were ugly. Most folks haven't even heard
of the company. Can you see that these two facts are independent?
Guess not.

RB

I've seen plenty of C&Cs and I've never seen a pile of steel handholds bolted
to everything down below.


Let's show everyone that you know little about boats! See pic below: Note the
handholds at the corners of the table, the hutch next to radar, even aft built
into the hanging locker. They are also at the galley.
http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/images/int23.jpg
And here are the same ones aboard a C&C 37!!!
http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/1/7/8/5/1178559_3.jpg
And on a 38...
http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/1/4/1/3/1141306_2.jpg
Oops!!! On the C&C 35!!!
http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/2/9/8/3/1298389_6.jpg

Yeah, Loco. You REALLY know your C&Cs!!!! Exposed Idiot!!! HAHAHA!

RB

Massive fire....Bwaaahahahahahahaahahahahhaaaa!
So easy to do with a hot resin and nothing suspicious.


Nice try, Ozzy, but you might try knowing what you're talking about from time
to time. C&C didn't recover even half of the insurance and they did try to
restart.
Here are the facts..

In 1989, Brian was forced out of C&C by the main share holder of the limited
partnership and replaced by Bob Stubing. Bob’s intial thinking was to close
the company down, but after becoming enamored with the industry, he tried to
keep it going. Unfortunately, by the middle of 1990, bank pressures forced the
close of C&C.

After 14 months, C&C was finally sold to Anthony Koo and Frank Chow of Wa Kwang
Shipping, which was at one time the fifth largest shipping company in the
world. The new company, C&C Yachts International, started out with grand plans.
In no time, they had production of a 51 and an IMS 45, including an endorsement
from Dennis Conner. By 1994, things had turned around so much that the plant
had trouble keeping up with sales. In addition, C&C Yachts International
acquired SR sailboats of Florida, a line of sport boats that proved to be
fierce competitors in racing.

In April of 1994, C&C was devastated by a fire that destroyed 40 molds, three
51 boats that were in production, the factory, the boat building records,
plans, etc. They tried to recover, but ultimately failed. Insurance only paid a
portion of the total loss, and C&C tried to resume production, only to find the
recovery cost was too much and closed the factory in August 1996.

RB

RB