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On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 22:58:22 -0500, Jim Cate wrote:



felton wrote:



I'm not sure who originated this, but it strikes a chord of
truthfulness with me. In fairness to Jim, though, if my dominant
criteria for selecting a boat were the ability to motor swiftly in
water less than 2' deep, well...I guess I would be depressed, but I
still wouldn't pick a Mac. He should have just gone ahead and bought
a pontoon motor boat with a grill on the back.



You have it bass-ass backwards. The Mac 26M has the ability to quickly
motor out to the best sailing waters. The motor is a means of getting
better sailing in an afternoon,or a weekend, rather than a week.

Jim


You are obviously unconcerned with the poor sailing characteristics,
the "build quality" and the aesthetics of the boat. You seem
entranced by the "advantages" of the Mac 26MX, as you perceive them.
Suffice it to say that the vast majority of sailors, as evidenced by
this newsgroup, don't share your priorities. A sailor would rather
sail than motor. There is nothing quite like sailing a well tuned
boat to weather with the helm balanced and the sails well trimmed.
That is something that can't be experienced on a Mac 26MX. If you are
in a hurry to get somewhere, then sailing is probably a poor choice of
transportation. If you want to "sail", then a Mac 26MX is a poor
choice of a boat.

Don't get your feelings hurt. People around here just don't share
your views. The same would probably be true if someone dropped in
extolling the advantages of Cigarette boats or jetskis. By and large
this is a group of sailors who appreciate sailing. Unfortunately for
you, the Mac 26M(X) is pretty much universally agreed upon as being
the low water mark in the sailboat world. I think there might be a
few Lancers and Buccaneers that would compete for the title but they
mercifully went out of business, leaving few current alternatives for
the naive and uninformed.
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"Wally" wrote in message

| There's a thing - what's your 26M going to be called?

Butter Cup???

CM


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MacBoy, I don't believe a word of it. Until I see proof, you're
a liar. After I see proof, I'll reconsider. I doubt that'll have to
happen. Why don't you just take a picture of it now and call
me a liar? Use a simple photo editing tool to blank out the
address or whatever.

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:
Liar. Prove it.



Joe has challenged me to a race on Galveston Bay. He will be sailing his
ultra fast steel-hulled vessel, Red Cloud. The plan is for us to race a
prescribed course on the bay, and for him to take pictures of the Mac
26M under sail which he will post to the ng along with his report on the
race. Also, he wants to do some water-skiing behind the Mac under
power. I'll show Joe the purchase order for my boat verifying that I
placed the order on March 25. - We should be able to schedule this event
sometime in May.

The loser of the race will pay the tab for a steak dinner and bottle of
Bordeaux to be shared with the winner at one of the nicer waterfront
restaurants in the Kemah area.

So, you'll get your "proof" in a few weeks. (Are you prepared to admit
you were wrong, John?)

Jim



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I'll show Joe the purchase order for my boat verifying that I
placed the order on March 25. - We should be able to schedule this event
sometime in May.


Jim, good luck with the 26M. I hope it works out for you and meets and even
exceeds your expectations. While some people here continue to troll, others
will be interested to hear how such an odd vessel performs from an actual
owner.

RB
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Gag Me with a fork...... Bob, I've seen you rip prospective Mac buyers and
destroy current Mac owners on this group for years. You were much worse in
your attacks than anyone here to date!

I just hate it when the "reformed" begin to preach to the masses. What
hypocrisy!

At least we are being honest in our opinion of the Mac26.....

CM



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| I'll show Joe the purchase order for my boat verifying that I
| placed the order on March 25. - We should be able to schedule this event
| sometime in May.
|
| Jim, good luck with the 26M. I hope it works out for you and meets and
even
| exceeds your expectations. While some people here continue to troll,
others
| will be interested to hear how such an odd vessel performs from an actual
| owner.
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| RB




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The hobbit is the hero! Shame about the orcs though. Bit like occers
being misled by Sauron Bush.

Cheers

Flying Tadpole wrote:
Ah well, we can't _all_be hobbits, you know...

Navigator wrote:

I'm not a compromise -I'm not Australian.

Cheers

Flying Tadpole wrote:


Navigator wrote:


It's alright Taddy, you don't need to justify your choice of boat. I
uderstand the compromises you live with.



Indeed, you're one of them.




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Of course we do. He just needs a kick to keep the tyres inflated.

Cheers

katysails wrote:

MC commiserated: It's alright Taddy, you don't need to justify your choice
of boat. I
uderstand the compromises you live with

But we love you anyway....


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Gag Me with a fork...... Bob, I've seen you rip prospective Mac buyers and
destroy current Mac owners on this group for years. You were much worse in
your attacks than anyone here to date!

I've spoken to Jim off-group and he made his decision on the Mac based on his
specific requirements. He appears to understand what the limits are and
certainly knows he'll lose out when he sells. It's his money. The rest was just
a world class beating that he administered to all of you. The hooks were well
baited and you gorged yourselves, especially Ganz, who really got played..Do
you expect me to do the same thing?
Nope.

RB
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A beating he gave us? A what prize did he win?



"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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Gag Me with a fork...... Bob, I've seen you rip prospective Mac buyers and
destroy current Mac owners on this group for years. You were much worse in
your attacks than anyone here to date!

I've spoken to Jim off-group and he made his decision on the Mac based on his
specific requirements. He appears to understand what the limits are and
certainly knows he'll lose out when he sells. It's his money. The rest was

just
a world class beating that he administered to all of you. The hooks were well
baited and you gorged yourselves, especially Ganz, who really got played..Do
you expect me to do the same thing?
Nope.

RB



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Bobsprit wrote:

I've spoken to Jim off-group and he made his decision on the Mac based on his
specific requirements. He appears to understand what the limits are and
certainly knows he'll lose out when he sells. It's his money. The rest was just
a world class beating that he administered to all of you. The hooks were well
baited and you gorged yourselves, especially Ganz, who really got played..Do
you expect me to do the same thing?
Nope.


So my original unworthy suspicions that it was Bobsprit trolling
were totally unfounded, silly me. Instead, it was Bobsprit
coaching Jim the Deafer in expert trolling? I'll look for a faux
plastic trophy for Bobsprit to add to his collection. (Always
good to see a world-class player, retired from actual competition
due to infirmity, still making a weighty contribution from the
bench.)

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