I must admit he had excellent presentation..... a clean cast and played the
ripples like a pro.

Nonetheless... if you were a real friend... you would have talked him out of
this insanity.

You know very well he won't be happy with the purchase.....


CM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| Gag Me with a fork...... Bob, I've seen you rip prospective Mac buyers
and
| destroy current Mac owners on this group for years. You were much worse in
| your attacks than anyone here to date!
|
| I've spoken to Jim off-group and he made his decision on the Mac based on
his
| specific requirements. He appears to understand what the limits are and
| certainly knows he'll lose out when he sells. It's his money. The rest was
just
| a world class beating that he administered to all of you. The hooks were
well
| baited and you gorged yourselves, especially Ganz, who really got
played..Do
| you expect me to do the same thing?
| Nope.
|
| RB

Bobsprit wrote:

... He appears to understand what the limits are ...

Yup, 100 miles offshore, and winds no more than 70 knots.


... The rest was just a world class beating that he administered
to all of you.

The difference between good trolling and bad trolling is that one is
invisibile and the other is transparent. Jimmyjim's efforts were
embarrassingly obvious - he was called as a troll by almost everyone that
bothered to post.


Wish me luck for tomorrow's race, Bob - it's the last of the Easter Series.
We can't win the series, but we have a fair chance of nabbing second place.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk/music

felton wrote:
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 22:58:22 -0500, Jim Cate wrote:



felton wrote:



I'm not sure who originated this, but it strikes a chord of
truthfulness with me. In fairness to Jim, though, if my dominant
criteria for selecting a boat were the ability to motor swiftly in
water less than 2' deep, well...I guess I would be depressed, but I
still wouldn't pick a Mac. He should have just gone ahead and bought
a pontoon motor boat with a grill on the back.


You have it bass-ass backwards. The Mac 26M has the ability to quickly
motor out to the best sailing waters. The motor is a means of getting
better sailing in an afternoon,or a weekend, rather than a week.

Jim


You are obviously unconcerned with the poor sailing characteristics,
the "build quality" and the aesthetics of the boat. You seem
entranced by the "advantages" of the Mac 26MX, as you perceive them.
Suffice it to say that the vast majority of sailors, as evidenced by
this newsgroup, don't share your priorities. A sailor would rather
sail than motor. There is nothing quite like sailing a well tuned
boat to weather with the helm balanced and the sails well trimmed.
That is something that can't be experienced on a Mac 26MX. If you are
in a hurry to get somewhere, then sailing is probably a poor choice of
transportation. If you want to "sail", then a Mac 26MX is a poor
choice of a boat.

I didn't choose the Mac 26M because I prefer motoring over sailing. And,
from 25 years of sailing experience on many types of boats, I think that
I have an understanding of the pleasure of sailing a well-balanced boat
having good pointing ability. - That's why I chose the Mac 26M.

Regarding the fact that "People around here don't share my views," none
of the "People around here" have sailed the 26M, and few have even
spoken with anyone who has.

The "uninformed" sailors are, therefore, the "People around here."

Jim

Bobsprit wrote:

I'll show Joe the purchase order for my boat verifying that I

placed the order on March 25. - We should be able to schedule this event
sometime in May.


Jim, good luck with the 26M. I hope it works out for you and meets and even
exceeds your expectations. While some people here continue to troll, others
will be interested to hear how such an odd vessel performs from an actual
owner.

RB

Bob,

I'm assuming that Joe is going to show up as promised, and that he will
be able to take some convincing pictures of the Mac 26M under sail. If
even this isn't sufficient, I'm not sure what form of "evidence" would
ever be enough to satisfy Johnathan, Scott, et al.

Jim

Jim Cate wrote:
The "older" Mac to which you refer had a dagger board keel instead of
the wider, swing keel of the Mac 26x.

Wrong.

The older Mac 26 was built in a variety of models, some of which had
daggerboards, some of which had minimally ballasted centerboards. None
had "swing keels" nor did the Mac 26X.

There was an earlier yet boat called the Mac 25 which *did* have a swing
keel and a very similar hull to the old water ballast M26.

You don't know what you're talking about. Go hang out on one of the Mac
discussion lists and learn.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

"Jim Cate" wrote in message

| I'm assuming that Joe is going to show up as promised, and that he will
| be able to take some convincing pictures of the Mac 26M under sail. If
| even this isn't sufficient, I'm not sure what form of "evidence" would
| ever be enough to satisfy Johnathan, Scott, et al.

Evidence!!!?????

Aw fer gawd's sake... it's a boat ain't it? We've all seen Macs sailing...
pounding to weather in a 10 knot breeze.... helplessly drifting into a
lee shore, unable to claw off with a 15 knot wind on the beam....
accidental gybing, repeatedly on a gentle run.

But my all time favourite is that image burned into my retinas of what
appears to be a boat sinking stern first as it try's in futility to climb
out of the hole in a desperate attempt get on plane.....
Bwahahahahahahahahaaa a 50 HP kicker can't push that pig out of a hole!...
what chance does the wind have?

No hard feelings Jim...... the boat is a bad choice all around. That's all
there is to it!


CM

"Flying Tadpole" wrote:

Alas for human
frailty--I've found the newsgroup's cruel and harsh view of Macs
to be borne out in local practice.

You *are* one sweet talkin' man!

Seahag

"Scott Vernon" wrote:
One thing that's really neat about a Bolger boat, you can make your own
half-hull model by simply cutting a shoe box in half and gluing it to a
wall with squirty cheese.

Scotty

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...
I have an understanding of the pleasure of sailing a well-balanced boat
having good pointing ability. - That's why I chose the Mac 26M.


The "uninformed" sailors are, therefore, the "People around here."

Jim

One thing for sure, we're informed enough to know a troll when we see one.
You would have to be extremely uninformed to not notice, I'm sure you've
heard this before, subtlety isn't your strong suit. Plonk. For the last
time.
John Cairns

"felton" wrote:

"The most dangerous words in sailing are a lot of boat for the
money."
I'm not sure who originated this, but it strikes a chord of
truthfulness with me.

Ummmm, brokers??????