Capt. Mooron wrote:
CRIPES!!!!!!!

I tagged the basics and ended up with a cost of over 32 grand for what
amounts to a dangerously under rigged, cheap plastic piece of **** with the
PHRF rating of a margarine container.

You won't get pussy on that boat unless you have a "As when And Where"
contract with a brothel.

I can't see any major difference between the "X" & "M"......

CM



There are major differences between the two boats, including an entirely
new hull design, new keel, new sail configuration, different ballast,
etc., etc., etc. These differences have been discussed in detail in the
past few weeks.

Of course, if you are more interested in posting Mac-Bashing notes on
the ng and getting "atta-boys" from your buddies, you probably don't
have much interest in the facts, do you CM?

Jim







"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
| Just look at the POS!
| http://www.havencraft.com/Index.asp
|
| A pic is worth a thousand words, in this case all negative.
|
| Scotty
|

It's still a piece of junk.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...
There are major differences between the two boats, including an entirely
new hull design, new keel, new sail configuration, different ballast,
etc., etc., etc. These differences have been discussed in detail in the
past few weeks.

Of course, if you are more interested in posting Mac-Bashing notes on
the ng and getting "atta-boys" from your buddies, you probably don't
have much interest in the facts, do you CM?

Jim

"She's Dead Jim"......

I've been on a couple of Macs... the 19 the 26X. I've sailed on them.... [
and I use the term lightly].... in a variety of conditions. In each case
and condition..... the vessels have never disappointed me in their ability
to deliver substandard performance parameters and yet exceed the boundaries
of discomfort.

What truly renders this magnificent design so unique...... is it's
capacity to operate as either a power boat or sailboat while maintaining
it's reputation as the worst of both worlds.

Now you may well see this as boat bashing..... but in truth it's merely
enlightenment. The Macgregor is a vessel suited to those of little cash, no
experience and lacking all concept of boating in general.

The boat is suited for it's purpose...... I believe that you merely feel
uncomfortable with the mantle dictated by ownership.

Don't worry Jim... we're laughing at you .... not with you. ;-)

CM


"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...
|
|
| Capt. Mooron wrote:
| CRIPES!!!!!!!
|
| I tagged the basics and ended up with a cost of over 32 grand for what
| amounts to a dangerously under rigged, cheap plastic piece of **** with
the
| PHRF rating of a margarine container.
|
| You won't get pussy on that boat unless you have a "As when And Where"
| contract with a brothel.
|
| I can't see any major difference between the "X" & "M"......
|
| CM
|
|
|
| There are major differences between the two boats, including an entirely
| new hull design, new keel, new sail configuration, different ballast,
| etc., etc., etc. These differences have been discussed in detail in the
| past few weeks.
|
| Of course, if you are more interested in posting Mac-Bashing notes on
| the ng and getting "atta-boys" from your buddies, you probably don't
| have much interest in the facts, do you CM?
|
| Jim
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| "Scott Vernon" wrote in message
| ...
| | Just look at the POS!
| | http://www.havencraft.com/Index.asp
| |
| | A pic is worth a thousand words, in this case all negative.
| |
| | Scotty
| |
|
|
|

Capt. Mooron wrote:

"She's Dead Jim"......

I've been on a couple of Macs... the 19 the 26X. I've sailed on them.... [
and I use the term lightly].... in a variety of conditions. In each case
and condition..... the vessels have never disappointed me in their ability
to deliver substandard performance parameters and yet exceed the boundaries
of discomfort.

What truly renders this magnificent design so unique...... is it's
capacity to operate as either a power boat or sailboat while maintaining
it's reputation as the worst of both worlds.

Now you may well see this as boat bashing..... but in truth it's merely
enlightenment. The Macgregor is a vessel suited to those of little cash, no
experience and lacking all concept of boating in general.

The boat is suited for it's purpose...... I believe that you merely feel
uncomfortable with the mantle dictated by ownership.

Don't worry Jim... we're laughing at you .... not with you. ;-)

CM


You've sailed several Macs (but not the 26M). I've sailed O'Days,
Catalinas, Valiants, Endeavors, Cals, etc., in the 30 to 40 ft range.
They all have their good points, but none of them compares with the Mac
as far as versatility and resolution of the time issue.

Jim






"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...
|
|
| Capt. Mooron wrote:
| CRIPES!!!!!!!
|
| I tagged the basics and ended up with a cost of over 32 grand for what
| amounts to a dangerously under rigged, cheap plastic piece of **** with
the
| PHRF rating of a margarine container.
|
| You won't get pussy on that boat unless you have a "As when And Where"
| contract with a brothel.
|
| I can't see any major difference between the "X" & "M"......
|
| CM
|
|
|
| There are major differences between the two boats, including an entirely
| new hull design, new keel, new sail configuration, different ballast,
| etc., etc., etc. These differences have been discussed in detail in the
| past few weeks.
|
| Of course, if you are more interested in posting Mac-Bashing notes on
| the ng and getting "atta-boys" from your buddies, you probably don't
| have much interest in the facts, do you CM?
|
| Jim
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| "Scott Vernon" wrote in message
| ...
| | Just look at the POS!
| | http://www.havencraft.com/Index.asp
| |
| | A pic is worth a thousand words, in this case all negative.
| |
| | Scotty
| |
|
|
|

And none of them except the Mac would be bought by a fool like you.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


Capt. Mooron wrote:

"She's Dead Jim"......

I've been on a couple of Macs... the 19 the 26X. I've sailed on them....
[
and I use the term lightly].... in a variety of conditions. In each
case
and condition..... the vessels have never disappointed me in their
ability
to deliver substandard performance parameters and yet exceed the
boundaries
of discomfort.

What truly renders this magnificent design so unique...... is it's
capacity to operate as either a power boat or sailboat while maintaining
it's reputation as the worst of both worlds.

Now you may well see this as boat bashing..... but in truth it's merely
enlightenment. The Macgregor is a vessel suited to those of little
cash, no
experience and lacking all concept of boating in general.

The boat is suited for it's purpose...... I believe that you merely
feel
uncomfortable with the mantle dictated by ownership.

Don't worry Jim... we're laughing at you .... not with you. ;-)

CM


You've sailed several Macs (but not the 26M). I've sailed O'Days,
Catalinas, Valiants, Endeavors, Cals, etc., in the 30 to 40 ft range.
They all have their good points, but none of them compares with the Mac
as far as versatility and resolution of the time issue.

Jim






"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...
|
|
| Capt. Mooron wrote:
| CRIPES!!!!!!!
|
| I tagged the basics and ended up with a cost of over 32 grand for
what
| amounts to a dangerously under rigged, cheap plastic piece of ****
with
the
| PHRF rating of a margarine container.
|
| You won't get pussy on that boat unless you have a "As when And
Where"
| contract with a brothel.
|
| I can't see any major difference between the "X" & "M"......
|
| CM
|
|
|
| There are major differences between the two boats, including an
entirely
| new hull design, new keel, new sail configuration, different ballast,
| etc., etc., etc. These differences have been discussed in detail in
the
| past few weeks.
|
| Of course, if you are more interested in posting Mac-Bashing notes on
| the ng and getting "atta-boys" from your buddies, you probably don't
| have much interest in the facts, do you CM?
|
| Jim
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| "Scott Vernon" wrote in message
| ...
| | Just look at the POS!
| | http://www.havencraft.com/Index.asp
| |
| | A pic is worth a thousand words, in this case all negative.
| |
| | Scotty
| |
|
|
|