MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

are you under the impression that a mac26 is double hulled?

SV

"Jim Cate" wrote 6 times...

(1) - If the lower hull is compromised, the inner hull remains.

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Sure, I'm bored Jhm.

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Nah, his ego is way too big for that. He bought a loser, now
he has to justify it.

Johathan, the following note lists five advantages of the Mac 26M, while
recognizing some of its limitations and disadvantages. How about
addressing some of such substantive issues, rather than posting more
ridiculous personal attacks?

Whether or not the Valiant is a "better" boat depends on your particular
criteria, however. With respect to safety for coastal cruising, the Mac
seems to have several advantages.

(1) - If the lower hull is compromised, the inner hull remains.

Get a catamaran or trimaran. Not only will you sail faster on most
points of sail, you can't sink them, you'll have the same if not more
room below, they don't heel much, so guests will feel safe. They
require less engine power to move, thus less fuel, noise, etc. Tris
and some cats can be trailered. They cost a bit more, but you could
easily find a used one in great shape for the same or less than a
piece of junk Mac26(who cares).


(2) If both hulls are compromised, or if the side hull is penetrated as
in a collision, the integrated flotation keeps the Mac afloat. By
contrast, if the hull of the Valiant (or other keep boats) is
compromised, or if the through-hulls leak, or if substantial water
enters the boat for some other reason, the keel of the Valiant will
quickly pull it to the bottom. In this respect, the MacGregor is a
"better" boat. (Galveston-Houston has its share of drunk red-necks
racing around the bays at 60 mph while downing another six-pack.)

See #1.

(3) Regarding access to good sailing areas, the MacGregor can plane out
to the desired sailing are at around 15-18 knots, whereas the Valiant,
while considered relatively fast, only make around 7-8 knots under
power. So, with respect to convenience, and ability to get to a
preferred sailing area within a given day or weekend, the MacGregor is a
"better" boat.


See #1.

(4) The ability to return to port quickly, ahead of impending weather,
is also a safety factor in the Mac. When we sailed the Valiant, there
were several channels in the Galveston area that weren't clearly marked
and in which we could not maneuver safely at low tide. So, we had to
turn back from a preferred anchorage we were trying to reach. In
contrast, the dagger board of the MacGregor can be raised incrementally
as desired, with a minimum draft of around 18 inches. Again, with
respect to its ability to maneuver in shallow or unmarked channels, or
to anchor in shallow water, or beach on shore to permit grandkids to
play on the sand, the MacGregor is a "better" boat, since the Valiant
must be kept in much deeper water and doesn't have the versatility of
the Mac for such shallow water activities.

See #1.

I have no doubt that the Valiant has better sailing characteristics,
will point higher, and would be more comfortable in heavy weather. - In
that sense, it is a "better" boat than the MacGregor (although I
understand that the MacGregor can actually plane under sail and may
therefore be faster under sail in some conditions).

(5) However, if I can't get out to the blue water on weekends because of
the requisite hours of motoring time it takes to get from our area to
the blue water, then the fine sailing characteristics of the Valiant
wouldn't be of much benefit to me. (With the exception of being able to
talk about it on the newsgroup.) Under those circumstances, if I could
only get out once or twice a year, it may make more sense to charter a
larger boat for extended cruising when I can time off for a week or so.

See #1.

Again, an evaluation of the quality of the boat depends on the criteria
used in the evaluation, and how the boat will be used.

Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

I think he's already brain dead. Does anything else matter?

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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"Jim Cate" wrote
I'll be here for whatever time it takes for you to come to the
realization that you aren't going to intimidate me or drive me away.


Then you'll die here.


Get
used to the idea that I'm just wasting
everyone's time.

Jim

Yup.

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Nah, you're a piker. When you get the thread into the 1000s, let me
know.

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Yes, Mac "enthusiasts" are easy targets, like shooting fish in
a barrel, because anyone dumb enough to buy one isn't much
of a sailor. I for one have no problem with you sticking around.
Sometimes even shooting fish in a barrel is good, clean fun. Also,
you might learn something and then decide to sell that piece of
crap and get a real boat.

Many of us have been here for years. So far, you haven't proven
yourself to be anything more than a dummy, and a temporary one
at that.

Really? If I'm that stupid and my notes are that insignificant, why is
this discussion string the most extensive on the ng, with over 400
responses? Why, after a few days of responses, would any rational person
want to waste his time continuing to respond to a complete dummy, as you
describe me, over and over again, ad nauseum?

In case you hadn't noticed, your actions aren't consistent with your
words.

Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

I think he's under the impression that his head is double hulled.

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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are you under the impression that a mac26 is double hulled?

SV

"Jim Cate" wrote 6 times...

(1) - If the lower hull is compromised, the inner hull remains.

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Keep posting the same crap over and over. Eventually, someone will
complain to your isp and you'll be toast.

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


JAXAshby wrote:

However, they (mac 26's) entail certain obvious advantages for sailing


not that anyone but you can see.

Whether or not the Valiant is a "better" boat depends on your particular
criteria, however. With respect to safety for coastal cruising, the Mac
seems to have several advantages.

(1) - If the lower hull is compromised, the inner hull remains.

(2) If both hulls are compromised, or if the side hull is penetrated as
in a collision, the integrated flotation keeps the Mac afloat. By
contrast, if the hull of the Valiant (or other keep boats) is
compromised, or if the through-hulls leak, or if substantial water
enters the boat for some other reason, the keel of the Valiant will
quickly pull it to the bottom. In this respect, the MacGregor is a
"better" boat. (Galveston-Houston has its share of drunk red-necks
racing around the bays at 60 mph while downing another six-pack.)

(3) Regarding access to good sailing areas, the MacGregor can plane out
to the desired sailing are at around 15-18 knots, whereas the Valiant,
while considered relatively fast, only make around 7-8 knots under
power. So, with respect to convenience, and ability to get to a
preferred sailing area within a given day or weekend, the MacGregor is a
"better" boat.

(4) The ability to return to port quickly, ahead of impending weather,
is also a safety factor in the Mac. When we sailed the Valiant, there
were several channels in the Galveston area that weren't clearly marked
and in which we could not maneuver safely at low tide. So, we had to
turn back from a preferred anchorage we were trying to reach. In
contrast, the dagger board of the MacGregor can be raised incrementally
as desired, with a minimum draft of around 18 inches. Again, with
respect to its ability to maneuver in shallow or unmarked channels, or
to anchor in shallow water, or beach on shore to permit grandkids to
play on the sand, the MacGregor is a "better" boat, since the Valiant
must be kept in much deeper water and doesn't have the versatility of
the Mac for such shallow water activities.

I have no doubt that the Valiant has better sailing characteristics,
will point higher, and would be more comfortable in heavy weather. - In
that sense, it is a "better" boat than the MacGregor (although I
understand that the MacGregor can actually plane under sail and may
therefore be faster under sail in some conditions).

(5) However, if I can't get out to the blue water on weekends because of
the requisite hours of motoring time it takes to get from our area to
the blue water, then the fine sailing characteristics of the Valiant
wouldn't be of much benefit to me. (With the exception of being able to
talk about it on the newsgroup.) Under those circumstances, if I could
only get out once or twice a year, it may make more sense to charter a
larger boat for extended cruising when I can time off for a week or so.

Again, an evaluation of the quality of the boat depends on the criteria
used in the evaluation, and how the boat will be used.

Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

They also know how to spell knots, not?

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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Sailors describe wind speed in 'knots', Mac 26M drivers use 'MPH'.

SV


"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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I would suggest 30-40not conditions with some 15 footers....make sure
you
take a life raft....

Katy, what are 30-40not conditions? I don't think I've ever seen any of
those "not" conditions. - But I'll keep an eye out for them.

Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

You missed one.

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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Yup.


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Jim MacGregor

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Prove it. I think you bought it a few weeks ago. I have it on
good authority. Prove I'm wrong.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Bull. You bought it weeks ago

That's a God damned lie.


and are now trying to justify the purchase.
Don't start lying already. It's not worth it.

If we have nothing of substance to say, then why are you still
listening.

I think you're going to stay around just long enough to pop a cork...
look out folks, he's almost there!

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Because he's either stupid, a troll, or trying to justify his poor choice.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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Then why are you still here?

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Scott Vernon wrote:

Jimbo, did you ask your silly questions on the Mac list, like I
suggested?

SV


Yes. The great majority on the Mac lists have one of the the older
models. I did correspond with and speak with some 26M owners.

Jim