MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Jim said: 1) As you suggested, I did place an order for one of the 26M's.

It's your money, honey...

2) I won't come whining back to the group.

Is this signed in vlood?

3) I'll be glad to report on my sailing experiences if anyone is
interested.

Sailing stories, yes. Mac advertisements, no.


--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Jim suggested:
In that case, all you have to do is to press the "down arrow"
(on the lower right side of your keyboard), and you can quickly
pass by my notes and move on to another topic

That is not with in the spirit of this ng. we all read every single word
posted here because it is our duty to siphon and funnel the miscreants into
some semblance of acceptance. You have already admitted your transgression
of buying a Mac, have promised to stop whining, and have indicated you're
going to start sailing, so we've had some positive effect on you. You had
purchased the sad piece of fiberglass before we could do anything about it,
but oh, well...at least the money goes into the US economy...
--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...
There is a large bay near here in which we can sail for
the afternoon. As mentioned below, I recently placed an order for one
of the Mac 26M's. When it's delivered, I'll be able to motor down to
Galveston and to the offshore blue water in about two hours.

This reminds me of my plans to travel to France in 3 & 1/2 hours in my
Bayliner. Very soon after I took delivery of the boat, I realised that I
would never take her to France. However, I still had 10 *very* good years
of sailing (ok - motoring) in her.


Or, I can
tow the boat down to various points on the coast and launch it there. -

Sounds like hard work....... OK if you are under 25 years old.


I'll try several sailing areas and see how they compare and report back
to the group.

I look forward to your reports.

When are you due to take delivery?



Regards


Donal
--

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

DSK wrote:
Jim Cate wrote:

In our area, some of the many "obvious advantages" include the ability
to get out to good sailing waters, sail for half a day, and return to
port within a few hours.


Umm, no. The "obvious advantage" here is that you can get shaken and
deafened while putt-putting out into more open water, then bobbing
around with (or without, doesn't make much difference) sail up, then
reversing the process.

So, it would be better for me to get a larger, keel boat that takes 5
hours to "ROAR" out to the good sailing water, and then another 5 hours
to "ROAR" back to home port? Under that scenario, When do we start
having fun? How long to I have to listen to that diesel?

Jim



A few days ago I went sailing around our marina. Slaloming among the
outer pilings is fun.

"Good sailing waters" is where good sailors sail.


... If you can only sail on weekends, that's an "obvious advantage"
over a boat that takes six hours to motor to a good sailing area, and
six hours to motor back.


You've been sold a bill of goods. You either should 1- keep the boat
closer to where you want to sail or 2- get a boat that can be enjoyably
sailed in waters a practical distance away. There are many solutions to
every problem, and the one you've fixed on is a rather poor one IMHO.

Meanwhile, you get to ride around on your new boat (did you get red or
blue?) while subsidizing your local Macgregor dealers lifestyle. Enjoy.


Actually, I'm one of the fortunate few who will be able to get delivery
of this spectacular new boat this year. Most of their production for the
year has already been commited. (I'm getting the white model.)

FBhis
Doug King

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

katysails wrote:

Jax cried:
SPAM!!

I'm of the opinion that the guy is a MacGregor infiltrate, sent by the
company to turn the attention of the group on their sorry product...

I am beginning to understand that this group considers Mac enthusiasts
something like "easy targets" and great sport for Mac attacks.
Apparently, slamming Mac owners or enthusiasts is considered something
like shooting fish in a barrel. - We are supposed to become intimidated
and quickly run off.

Well, this one isn't cooperating, and won't, and apparently, that's not
going down very well. Helpful hint. - If it takes two months, three
months, six months, 12 months, or whatever, , I'm not going to turn tail
and run. Get used to it.

Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

JAXAshby wrote:

SPAM!!

But true!
Jim





You asked why I wanted to keep the boat 25 miles from the sailing area.
What I meant was that it is 25 miles from the blue water sailing areas
in the Gulf, that I prefer. In our region, 95% of the marinas and slips
are in the Kemah-Seabrook area, located between Houston and Galveston.
I think the reason most people leave their boats here is that it is
some distance inland and considered safer from hurricanes and other
weather issues. There is a large bay near here in which we can sail for
the afternoon. As mentioned below, I recently placed an order for one
of the Mac 26M's. When it's delivered, I'll be able to motor down to
Galveston and to the offshore blue water in about two hours. Or, I can
tow the boat down to various points on the coast and launch it there. -
I'll try several sailing areas and see how they compare and report back
to the group.

Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Donal wrote:

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...

There is a large bay near here in which we can sail for
the afternoon. As mentioned below, I recently placed an order for one
of the Mac 26M's. When it's delivered, I'll be able to motor down to
Galveston and to the offshore blue water in about two hours.


This reminds me of my plans to travel to France in 3 & 1/2 hours in my
Bayliner. Very soon after I took delivery of the boat, I realised that I
would never take her to France. However, I still had 10 *very* good years
of sailing (ok - motoring) in her.



Or, I can
tow the boat down to various points on the coast and launch it there. -


Sounds like hard work....... OK if you are under 25 years old.



I'll try several sailing areas and see how they compare and report back
to the group.


I look forward to your reports.

When are you due to take delivery?

By May 10-15 I should be able to take her out under varying conditions,
and I'll post sone further reports.

Jim



Regards


Donal
--

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

So you were just trolling.

Nope. If someone had posted some substantive information about the
current model (the 26M), I would have considered it carefully. But all
I got was a crock of **** from members who didn't know anything about
the current model, but who, despite having never sailed the boat or even
spoken with someone who did, didn't hesitate to bash the boat and me.
Apparently, Mac owners are considered an easy target on this ng, and
bashing Mac owners is considered an a great spectator sport. - Of
course, what that tells me is that some of the contributors on this
particular string have a problem. The problem isn't the boat, it's the
asa contributors who don't know what the hell they are talking about.


You will be back whining.

How much are you willing to put down on that particular prediction?
$500? $200? $25? $5????.



Sailing experiences and a Mac are not compatible.

Paying marina fees, insurance, repairs, bottom treatments, etc., to keep
a large keel boat in a marina 99% of the time isn't very compatible with
sailing either.

Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

katysails wrote:

Jim said: 1) As you suggested, I did place an order for one of the 26M's.

It's your money, honey...

2) I won't come whining back to the group.

Is this signed in vlood?

I'm collecting bets on that one. Would you like me to include your name?
For what amount?



3) I'll be glad to report on my sailing experiences if anyone is
interested.

Sailing stories, yes. Mac advertisements, no.


In other words, only sailing stories that 'fit' your preconseptions
regarding the 26M are going to be permitted?

Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

or a smaller boat.

DSK wrote:
Jim Cate wrote:

In our area, some of the many "obvious advantages" include the ability
to get out to good sailing waters, sail for half a day, and return to
port within a few hours.


Umm, no. The "obvious advantage" here is that you can get shaken and
deafened while putt-putting out into more open water, then bobbing
around with (or without, doesn't make much difference) sail up, then
reversing the process.

So, it would be better for me to get a larger, keel boat that takes 5
hours to "ROAR" out to the good sailing water, and then another 5 hours
to "ROAR" back to home port? Under that scenario, When do we start
having fun? How long to I have to listen to that diesel?

Jim



A few days ago I went sailing around our marina. Slaloming among the
outer pilings is fun.

"Good sailing waters" is where good sailors sail.


... If you can only sail on weekends, that's an "obvious advantage"
over a boat that takes six hours to motor to a good sailing area, and
six hours to motor back.


You've been sold a bill of goods. You either should 1- keep the boat
closer to where you want to sail or 2- get a boat that can be enjoyably
sailed in waters a practical distance away. There are many solutions to
every problem, and the one you've fixed on is a rather poor one IMHO.

Meanwhile, you get to ride around on your new boat (did you get red or
blue?) while subsidizing your local Macgregor dealers lifestyle. Enjoy.


Actually, I'm one of the fortunate few who will be able to get delivery
of this spectacular new boat this year. Most of their production for the
year has already been commited. (I'm getting the white model.)

FBhis
Doug King