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Bobsprit March 5th 04 03:45 PM

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 
Back when I was on the Mac list there was a few who raced them, one guy
filled in the swingboard trunk with something . Claimed more speed from it.


Dilithium cyrstals?


RB

Bobsprit March 5th 04 03:47 PM

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 
Yer a regular Josh Slocum, ain't ya?


Ah, well. Same old tune from Scotty...and no real answer as usual.

RB

Scott Vernon March 5th 04 03:47 PM

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 
Please repost where I wrote that.


"Bobsprit" wrote

Please explain to
everyone why you find the 26M and X so appealing.



Scott Vernon March 5th 04 03:49 PM

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 
Yer a regular Josh Slocum, ain't ya?

"Bobsprit" wrote
As far as distance sailed, I did get to the Thimble Islands last summer,

did
some of the Jersey Coast, logged plenty of daysails, overnighters and so

on.



Martin Baxter March 5th 04 03:52 PM

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 
Bobsprit wrote:



We're all awaiting your thoughtful answers.


Not really.

Cheers
Marty


DSK March 5th 04 03:54 PM

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 
Scott Vernon wrote:

Isn't the M25 in the Sail hall of fame? Ever seen a Mac/Venture 23' cutter
rigged? Cool looking boat.


Yes, the "Venture of Newport" which was intended to cash in on the growing
popularity of classic boats at that time.

Not to disillusion you Scott but it is really just a Venture 21 with a bowsprit
& quarter rail screwed on. It is pretty cool looking though. There is one that
sails a lake nearby, the owner has changed it to a quasi-gaff rig, added a row
of bronze portholes, and some other old-timey nautical gear. Makes you want to
grab a rusty cutlass and shout "Argh, matey!"

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Scott Vernon March 5th 04 03:54 PM

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 
Name another boat in this size/price range that can be trailered, sailed,
motored as fast, has as much cabin space.

Take a few days, then get back to me.

SV

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Xtually the Mac26 PowR-SailR isn't a bad boat if you understand it's

limit

How PC is this comment? Let's look at these so called "limits."

Mac 26X or M

Ugly design
Very light build quality
Poor sailing performance
Poor power boat performance
Not cheap compared to better used boats

Yeah...I guess if you're okay with that, then the Mac26 is GREAT! I also

have a
1983 OMC saildrive for sale...great if you understand it's limits.

RB

RB



Bobsprit March 5th 04 03:55 PM

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 
Is the Mac25 a better boat than a C&C 32 that never sails and has a host of
long term structural problems?


Yes it would be. But I know of no C&C 32s or any C&Cs in my area with problems
you list.
Can't you manage to stay on topic without belittling yourself with tired
trolls? I don't like the Mac26 or any Macs for that matter. I have been aboard
the old macs and found them horribly cheap. The new X and M are simply awful.
It's my opinion, based on watching them sail and being aboard several. If they
sailed well (we all agree they DON'T) it would be another matter.
This is a sailing group, Doug. You directed a large portion of your time to a
powerboat, which in part explains your easy acceptance of a 26M. But I like
sailboats that sail well, that look nice, and that haven't been built to the
lowest price point available. I won't defend a Mac anymore than I'd defend a
boat with bad decks. I'll leave that to you and Scotty. It's sooooo easy to go
the "they're okay for some people" route. Show a little backbone and let's have
YOUR opinion. I seem to recall that you claimed you'd NEVER buy the Hunter 19
again after you discovered the weaknesses and quality. But they're "okay for
some people?" Or are they just crappy boats?

RB

Bobsprit March 5th 04 03:59 PM

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 
Name another boat in this size/price range that can be trailered, sailed,
motored as fast, has as much cabin space.


Yeah, and the Amphi car was also unique in it's abilities. It was also junk. I
suspect you ordered a lot of Smokeless Ashtrays, Inside the Egg-Egg Scramblers
and Mister Microphones in the 70's and 80's.

RB

Bobsprit March 5th 04 04:01 PM

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 
Repost where I said I '' find the 26M and X so appealing''.

A lie, fo course. I never quoted you as saying this. I indicated that you like
the boat and continue to defend it, listing it's virtues. Clear to everyone.
You should get one!

RB


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