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Thom Stewart February 8th 04 05:22 PM

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Scott,

You don't "Heel" a Cat, you fly a hull! You're right, it's a real kick
to lift a hull out off the water and take off like a "Bat out of
H-------"

Remember though, the sail is in between the hulls. When it isn't, you
have a recovery problem!

And; Jeff
When you "heel" and get a hot cup of coffee in your lap, its EVIL, when
you run out of rudder and round up, Evil. I've got a collection of great
Coffee Mugs without handles that were broken off in falls due to
"Heeling" Evil. I have many memories of peeing on my shoes in the head
from sudden "Heeling" Evil!!

You can call it what ever you want, I call it EVIL

Ole Thom


Jeff Morris February 8th 04 06:08 PM

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I always tell people that if I ever flew a hull on my cat, my next action would
be a call to my insurance agent. However, the new "express" version of my boat
is several tons lighter, has a tall rig, and dagger boards - I've heard it
really screams with one hull lifted!

I won't argue with your assessment of heeling - I suppose I've been "level
sailing" for so long I kind of miss the excitement of heeling over, seeing all
my possessions flying across the cabin, water rushing in open ports. The good
old days! One vision really etched in my memory is the cat box, complete with
cat, sliding across the cabin sole!

-jeff


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
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Scott,

You don't "Heel" a Cat, you fly a hull! You're right, it's a real kick
to lift a hull out off the water and take off like a "Bat out of
H-------"

Remember though, the sail is in between the hulls. When it isn't, you
have a recovery problem!

And; Jeff
When you "heel" and get a hot cup of coffee in your lap, its EVIL, when
you run out of rudder and round up, Evil. I've got a collection of great
Coffee Mugs without handles that were broken off in falls due to
"Heeling" Evil. I have many memories of peeing on my shoes in the head
from sudden "Heeling" Evil!!

You can call it what ever you want, I call it EVIL

Ole Thom




Jonathan Ganz February 8th 04 07:36 PM

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Catamarans can and do heel, but only 5 or so degrees.

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Scott,

You don't "Heel" a Cat, you fly a hull! You're right, it's a real kick
to lift a hull out off the water and take off like a "Bat out of
H-------"

Remember though, the sail is in between the hulls. When it isn't, you
have a recovery problem!

And; Jeff
When you "heel" and get a hot cup of coffee in your lap, its EVIL, when
you run out of rudder and round up, Evil. I've got a collection of great
Coffee Mugs without handles that were broken off in falls due to
"Heeling" Evil. I have many memories of peeing on my shoes in the head
from sudden "Heeling" Evil!!

You can call it what ever you want, I call it EVIL

Ole Thom




Jonathan Ganz February 8th 04 07:36 PM

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Well, at least you admit to being behind him. That's the first step (no pun
intended) to full disclosure.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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Oh, Look! Thom the burnt out alchoholic has an enabler/defender!


Gayanzy saw an actual sailing dialogue going on and he couldn't take it.

For
that matter does he ever start one?

I think the general elements of WL/Speed/heel has fallen to semantics at

this
point.

RB




Bobsprit February 8th 04 11:28 PM

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Catamarans can and do heel, but only 5 or so degrees.


Hmmmm. Sounds like another uniformed idiotic moronic comment from Gayanzy.
Some cats can fly a hull. That's more than 5 degrees.

RB

Scott Vernon February 8th 04 11:29 PM

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Well, yeah. My cat was a Hobie 14'. I do like the feeling when heeled
over at speed, but not when the Admiral is with.

SV



"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
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I always tell people that if I ever flew a hull on my cat, my next action

would
be a call to my insurance agent. However, the new "express" version of my

boat
is several tons lighter, has a tall rig, and dagger boards - I've heard it
really screams with one hull lifted!

I won't argue with your assessment of heeling - I suppose I've been "level
sailing" for so long I kind of miss the excitement of heeling over, seeing

all
my possessions flying across the cabin, water rushing in open ports. The

good
old days! One vision really etched in my memory is the cat box, complete

with
cat, sliding across the cabin sole!

-jeff


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Scott,

You don't "Heel" a Cat, you fly a hull! You're right, it's a real kick
to lift a hull out off the water and take off like a "Bat out of
H-------"

Remember though, the sail is in between the hulls. When it isn't, you
have a recovery problem!

And; Jeff
When you "heel" and get a hot cup of coffee in your lap, its EVIL, when
you run out of rudder and round up, Evil. I've got a collection of great
Coffee Mugs without handles that were broken off in falls due to
"Heeling" Evil. I have many memories of peeing on my shoes in the head
from sudden "Heeling" Evil!!

You can call it what ever you want, I call it EVIL

Ole Thom





Nav February 9th 04 12:23 AM

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Jeff Morris wrote:


I won't argue with your assessment of heeling - I suppose I've been "level
sailing" for so long I kind of miss the excitement of heeling over, seeing all
my possessions flying across the cabin, water rushing in open ports. The good
old days! One vision really etched in my memory is the cat box, complete with
cat, sliding across the cabin sole!


Hence the seamanlike behavior of preparing for sea. All items should be
stowed securely -regardless of the number of hulls. It's lubberly to
leave things lying around...

Cheers


Jonathan Ganz February 9th 04 12:33 AM

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Sounds like you're the KING OF IDIOTS! YOU WIN!

Now you're claiming that when a cat flys a hull it's actually heeling???????

HEY STUPID!! Most cats can fly a hull.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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Catamarans can and do heel, but only 5 or so degrees.


Hmmmm. Sounds like another uniformed idiotic moronic comment from Gayanzy.
Some cats can fly a hull. That's more than 5 degrees.

RB




Jonathan Ganz February 9th 04 12:44 AM

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Except the wine glasses on a cat. They're ok.

"Nav" wrote in message
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Jeff Morris wrote:


I won't argue with your assessment of heeling - I suppose I've been

"level
sailing" for so long I kind of miss the excitement of heeling over,

seeing all
my possessions flying across the cabin, water rushing in open ports.

The good
old days! One vision really etched in my memory is the cat box,

complete with
cat, sliding across the cabin sole!


Hence the seamanlike behavior of preparing for sea. All items should be
stowed securely -regardless of the number of hulls. It's lubberly to
leave things lying around...

Cheers




DSK February 9th 04 01:45 AM

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Marc wrote:
You degenerate! First a Nonsuch, then a cat. What's next?
A....gasp...Trawler?!?! OH! the humanity!


heh heh a trawler makes a lot of sense for the way most people cruise.

DSK



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