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Thom Stewart February 9th 04 06:09 AM

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Nutsy,

I don't consider flying a hull "HEELING" but I'll not argue the point.

I can't say that forcing a Lee hull deeper into the water isn't heeling.
It probably is but it surely isn't enough to effect the height of the
sail.

I'll not argue either point. A cruising Cat, in my mind is sailing flat,
with sails in the best sailing attitude.

Thom


Jonathan Ganz February 9th 04 06:57 AM

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No. It's not dumbass. Heeling is leaning. Flying a hull is flying a hull.
The hull that
remains in the water is heeling. The boat is flying a hull.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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During normal sailing conditions, most cats heel up to about 5 deg.,
some a bit more, some less, depending on the conditions and the boat.
On the other hand, when things get out of control, as in the case of a
cruising cat, one hull lifts off the water, thus "flying."

Duh! It's still heeling, dumbass!

Bwahahahahaha!

RB




Bobsprit February 9th 04 11:24 AM

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Now, Nutsy, you tell me what racing boats or cruising boat(Mono) are
designed to go faster with their masts heeled 30+ deg.


First you accuse me of "putting my own spin" on things, then you ask the above
absurd query.
I've never indicated anything but moderate heel, certainly less than 20
percent. Obviously, at 30 things are being pushed, the boat will slow and VMG
is compromised.

RB

Bobsprit February 9th 04 11:34 AM

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Reached hishest speed on a reach with a 15 deg heel

Are you saying it wouldn't have gone faster at a 12deg heel? Did you
try? Did you have crew high siding to get the 15 deg?

Thom, speeds in excess of 10 knots were made on the P30 in 25+ knots of air on
a reach. Did we try to flatten her out? Nope. 15 is just fine and our speed and
trim (overcanvased to be sure) were up for a fun-factor.

RB

Bobsprit February 9th 04 11:37 AM

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I don't consider flying a hull "HEELING" but I'll not argue the point.

Heeling means "To lean to one side" so a cat does indeed heel on it's one hull
as the other flys. When flying a hull, a cat becomes a counterweighted monohull
and IS heeling.

RB

Bobsprit February 9th 04 11:40 AM

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The hull that
remains in the water is heeling. The boat is flying a hull.

There ya go everyone! The waterbound hull is not "the boat" anymore!

Bwahahahahahaha! What an idiot!

RB

Scott Vernon February 9th 04 02:14 PM

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Nutzy's boat heels 65* in the slip when he steps aboard.

SV

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
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Nutsy,

I don't consider flying a hull "HEELING" but I'll not argue the point.

I can't say that forcing a Lee hull deeper into the water isn't heeling.
It probably is but it surely isn't enough to effect the height of the
sail.

I'll not argue either point. A cruising Cat, in my mind is sailing flat,
with sails in the best sailing attitude.

Thom



Bobsprit February 9th 04 03:24 PM

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Nutzy's boat heels 65* in the slip when he steps aboard.


65*??? Bwahahahaha! Even in his trolls he's an idiot!

RB

Jonathan Ganz February 9th 04 05:55 PM

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That's all????? No way!!

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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Nutzy's boat heels 65* in the slip when he steps aboard.

SV

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
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Nutsy,

I don't consider flying a hull "HEELING" but I'll not argue the point.

I can't say that forcing a Lee hull deeper into the water isn't heeling.
It probably is but it surely isn't enough to effect the height of the
sail.

I'll not argue either point. A cruising Cat, in my mind is sailing flat,
with sails in the best sailing attitude.

Thom





Jonathan Ganz February 9th 04 05:56 PM

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And, since you're incapable of reading, that's exactly what I said... about
5 degrees,
then if the process continues it's called FLYING A HULL. You are a liar and
a thief,
and YOU WIN!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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I don't consider flying a hull "HEELING" but I'll not argue the point.

Heeling means "To lean to one side" so a cat does indeed heel on it's one

hull
as the other flys. When flying a hull, a cat becomes a counterweighted

monohull
and IS heeling.

RB





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