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Nav February 4th 04 01:28 AM

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don't know how to sail according to DSK!

http://www.1stoppostershop.com/produ.../pd_Regate.jpg

12 degrees heel? Bwhahahahahahha

Cheers


SAIL LOCO February 4th 04 03:48 AM

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Duh, if you look at that photo most of the boats have 2 reefs in and from the
looks of the water the wind is blowing 28-30kts. So if they are heeled over at
30 deg it's not because they think that's the best way to go. It's the only
way.
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"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

Nav February 4th 04 04:14 AM

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No, they could drop the main entirely and sail at much lower angles of
heel -if that would be fast -but it wouldn't be... If they are offshore
racers they have 3 or 4 reefs and a trysail too.

Cheers

SAIL LOCO wrote:
Duh, if you look at that photo most of the boats have 2 reefs in and from the
looks of the water the wind is blowing 28-30kts. So if they are heeled over at
30 deg it's not because they think that's the best way to go. It's the only
way.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"



SAIL LOCO February 4th 04 05:11 AM

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No, they could drop the main entirely and sail at much lower angles of
heel -if that would be fast -but it wouldn't be... If they are offshore
racers they have 3 or 4 reefs and a trysail too.

Some of the boats in the photo have more reef in than the others. I don't know
of any race boats that have 4 sets of reefs and nobody's going to drop the main
and put up a storm trysail in 30kts. Plus your also forgetting that different
boats are sailed differently. For example anybody that races a J30 in a one
design fleet NEVER reefs the main no matter what's going on.
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DSK February 4th 04 12:00 PM

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Oz wrote:
Just looked at the pic Nav.
Looks like a typical fleet.
The guys at the front are in good shape, the guys at the back are
looking horrible.
Must be the worst trimmed sails I've seen on those closest boats.
The boat furthest left in the shot must have an Etchells trimmer on
board, high and fast :-)


Also you might notice that the ones who are heeling the most are at the
back of the fleet.

The furthest left boat looks to be reefed down more and has their
traveler down more, and you're right that they are outpointing the others.

Does it make a boat go faster to drag the lifelines in the water?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Brien Alkire February 4th 04 05:39 PM

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Hmmm, it depends on the boat but that certainly doesn't look very efficient
to me. They look greatly overpowered, especially the boats in the back of
the fleet (probably why they're there). Look how little sail is exposed at
that angle. Are you suggesting that's actually good trim?


"Nav" wrote in message
...
don't know how to sail according to DSK!

http://www.1stoppostershop.com/produ.../pd_Regate.jpg

12 degrees heel? Bwhahahahahahha

Cheers




Nav February 4th 04 08:11 PM

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No, but look at the heel -way over what I'd recommend. But the leader
are heeling way betond 12 degrees.

Cheers



Brien Alkire wrote:
Hmmm, it depends on the boat but that certainly doesn't look very efficient
to me. They look greatly overpowered, especially the boats in the back of
the fleet (probably why they're there). Look how little sail is exposed at
that angle. Are you suggesting that's actually good trim?


"Nav" wrote in message
...

don't know how to sail according to DSK!

http://www.1stoppostershop.com/produ.../pd_Regate.jpg

12 degrees heel? Bwhahahahahahha

Cheers






Nav February 4th 04 08:48 PM

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Yep The boat at the back is heeled to about 45, the one at the front 35.
They are all well powered up and having a blast.

Cheers

Oz wrote:

On Wed, 04 Feb 2004 14:28:34 +1300, Nav
scribbled thusly:


don't know how to sail according to DSK!

http://www.1stoppostershop.com/produ.../pd_Regate.jpg

12 degrees heel? Bwhahahahahahha

Cheers



Just looked at the pic Nav.
Looks like a typical fleet.
The guys at the front are in good shape, the guys at the back are
looking horrible.
Must be the worst trimmed sails I've seen on those closest boats.
The boat furthest left in the shot must have an Etchells trimmer on
board, high and fast :-)



Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.



Nav February 4th 04 08:55 PM

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DSK wrote:



Does it make a boat go faster to drag the lifelines in the water?


Oh boy. How many keel boats have rails under at 30 degrees of heel Doug?

Cheers


Wally February 4th 04 09:30 PM

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Oz wrote:

Hmmm, it depends on the boat but that certainly doesn't look very
efficient to me. They look greatly overpowered, especially the
boats in the back of the fleet (probably why they're there). Look
how little sail is exposed at that angle. Are you suggesting that's
actually good trim?


Sorry, don't get the sail exposed comment?


Something to do with the apparent area of sail exposed to the wind being
reduced as the boat heels over?


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