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Marc February 7th 04 10:01 PM

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You degenerate! First a Nonsuch, then a cat. What's next?
A....gasp...Trawler?!?! OH! the humanity!

On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 13:59:00 -0500, "Jeff Morris"
wrote:

Heel isn't evil, its just silly. You could spill your drink! Everyone knows a
proper boat should sail perfectly upright.

-jeff
"I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way" -Jessica Rabbit


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
A well trimmed boat will be the boat with max forward motion with min
amount of heel! ALWAYS!!


This is not rationonal, since some heel and resulting extended WL is an
intended function of a given design. It's not an "evil" but a known factor

that
designers considered and worked with. Calling heel "evil" would be like

calling
wetted surface "mean."

RB

RB




Jonathan Ganz February 7th 04 10:08 PM

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When you're right, you're right. I'm sure this is the extent of leeway for
you and
your boat! YOU WIN AGAIN!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Not true! A boat permanently at dock (like yours) would never make

leeway.


Poor Gayanzy...even in his trolls he's wrong. Floating marina's do in fact

make
tiny amounts of leeway.

RB




Jeff Morris February 7th 04 10:46 PM

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Actually, before the Nonsuch I had a Paceship Eastwind. Not an Alberg, but a
similar design. Before that I raced IODs, and a mess of dinghies. I suppose
some might say I've gone downhill.

The thought of a trawler is attractive if we do ICW cruising again. But I'd get
a powercat, like the PDQ MV34.
http://www.pdqyachts.com/ver2/yachts...rFrameSet.html

Then I'd have to get a small, personal cruiser, like a Nonsuch 22 or 26.

And, as my daughter says, "Oh, the Huge Manatee!"



"Marc" wrote in message
...
You degenerate! First a Nonsuch, then a cat. What's next?
A....gasp...Trawler?!?! OH! the humanity!

On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 13:59:00 -0500, "Jeff Morris"
wrote:

Heel isn't evil, its just silly. You could spill your drink! Everyone knows

a
proper boat should sail perfectly upright.

-jeff
"I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way" -Jessica Rabbit


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
A well trimmed boat will be the boat with max forward motion with min
amount of heel! ALWAYS!!


This is not rationonal, since some heel and resulting extended WL is an
intended function of a given design. It's not an "evil" but a known factor

that
designers considered and worked with. Calling heel "evil" would be like

calling
wetted surface "mean."

RB

RB






Lady Pilot February 8th 04 03:09 AM

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"Thom Stewart" wrote:
Dumb Question BB,

The logic is faulty? "Which is faster a 10ft Kayak or a 14ft?" If ,as
you say, keep the same proportions, a 100ft kayak with the same Guy
paddling should be way, way faster. NOT SO!!

Ole Thom


Has anyone told you lately, Ole Thom, that you are such a great "guy"!

A mountain of knowledge you are...

LP (cheers to you)



Lady Pilot February 8th 04 04:24 AM

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wrote:
On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 13:52:09 -0800 (PST), (Thom Stewart)

wrote:

BB,

I own an 11 foot Kayak. I know what you're trying to say. I still say
your logic isn't complete.

Have you even considered a Racing Canoe/ Kayak? I know you haven't. You
have locked yourself in with certain limits in your own mind.

OT


My associations are much more free than yours could ever be. You are the

one who
is stuck in neutral.

BB


I don't think so, Binary Bill! You are stuck in reverse, much worse than
being stuck in neutral...


LP



Jonathan Ganz February 8th 04 04:30 AM

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I suggest he not back up too quickly... Bob is right behind him.

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
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wrote:
On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 13:52:09 -0800 (PST), (Thom

Stewart)
wrote:

BB,

I own an 11 foot Kayak. I know what you're trying to say. I still say
your logic isn't complete.

Have you even considered a Racing Canoe/ Kayak? I know you haven't. You
have locked yourself in with certain limits in your own mind.

OT


My associations are much more free than yours could ever be. You are the

one who
is stuck in neutral.

BB


I don't think so, Binary Bill! You are stuck in reverse, much worse than
being stuck in neutral...


LP





Lady Pilot February 8th 04 05:05 AM

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote:
I suggest he not back up too quickly... Bob is right behind him.


Hehee. You got one right, Ganz...
LP



Bobsprit February 8th 04 02:55 PM

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Oh, Look! Thom the burnt out alchoholic has an enabler/defender!


Gayanzy saw an actual sailing dialogue going on and he couldn't take it. For
that matter does he ever start one?

I think the general elements of WL/Speed/heel has fallen to semantics at this
point.

RB

Scott Vernon February 8th 04 03:21 PM

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Some of my fondest sailing memories are of heeling my catamaran.

Scotty

"Jeff Morris" wrote ...
Heel isn't evil, its just silly. You could spill your drink! Everyone

knows a
proper boat should sail perfectly upright.

-jeff
"I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way" -Jessica Rabbit




Thom Stewart February 8th 04 04:28 PM

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Has any one told you lately, Ole Thom, that you are such a great
"guy"

Just me!!!

Ole Thom



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