On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 20:21:29 GMT, "NH_/\)_"
wrote:

agreed looks to much like shark to me, hummm what's for dinner lol

NH_/)_


"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
The distortion offered by the wave would make it impossible for anyone but
a
qualified marine biologist specializing in sharks or cetaceans to offer a
viable estimation.

I'm qualified. The shape of the dorsal indicates a Bull Shark, one of the
more
aggressive species.

Bull****. You can't tell what species it is from a photo like that.
dorsal fin shape is just *one* determining factor in keying out a
species.

And if you want to argue about it, I *am* a marine biologist and
spent 5 years working on sharks, including junior authorship on 2
scientific publications and first author on more than a dozen internal
publications for CSIRO Marine and the Fed Govt Department of Primary
Industries (including marine fisheries). I still have most of my
fisheries reference library sitting on my bookshelf.

Bob****, you're full of ****. The only qualification you have is a
limited imagination and the ability to type.

Peter Wiley

Hahahahahahahhaha - You certainly are qualified!

"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
The distortion offered by the wave would make it impossible for anyone but
a
qualified marine biologist specializing in sharks or cetaceans to offer a
viable estimation.

I'm qualified. The shape of the dorsal indicates a Bull Shark, one of the
more
aggressive species.

RB

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 20:36:21 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:

Hahahahahahahhaha - You certainly are qualified!

Shouldn't that be 'certified' ???

PDW

"CANDChelp" wrote in message
...
The distortion offered by the wave would make it impossible for anyone but
a
qualified marine biologist specializing in sharks or cetaceans to offer a
viable estimation.

I'm qualified. The shape of the dorsal indicates a Bull Shark, one of the
more
aggressive species.

RB

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:23:50 +1000, Oz1
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:20:48 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote:



Looks more like a porpoise to me.

Heh heh, Now that is a fine bait!

Care to venture an opinion on how many shark species there are that
have a pronounced hooked dorsal fin, small to nonexistent second
dorsal fin and a homocercal tail?

Well you are wrong.

Cheers MC

Simple Simon wrote:
Looks more like a porpoise to me.

"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...

You are an idiot. It's a dolphin. The fin, tail flukes and head shape
are unmistakable.

Cheers MC

CANDChelp wrote:

http://www.sailinganarchy.com/genera...rkwave_sml.jpg


That's one scary picture.


You're scared of dolphins????

Also: Position and size of the Dorsal is wrong for a Dolphin. It's also a bit
large for a dolphin.
You must have studied marine bio the same place you learned how to sail!!!

bwahahahaaha!

RB

Let's add to that sail trim!

Cheers MC

Oz1 wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:21:43 +1200, The_navigator©
wrote:


Damn you spoiled the debate there! I guess we should start a list about
things booby knows nothing about? How about it Oz.

Cheers MC


Well we've got a start....Sharks fer sure!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:12:52 +1000, Oz1
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 04:54:03 GMT, (Peter
Wiley) wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:18:38 +1000, Oz1
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 23:12:40 GMT, (Peter
Wiley) wrote:

And if you want to argue about it, I *am* a marine biologist and
spent 5 years working on sharks, including junior authorship on 2
scientific publications and first author on more than a dozen internal
publications for CSIRO Marine and the Fed Govt Department of Primary
Industries (including marine fisheries). I still have most of my
fisheries reference library sitting on my bookshelf.

Bob****, you're full of ****. The only qualification you have is a
limited imagination and the ability to type.

Peter Wiley


Wow!
Capt Hornblower blowing his own trumpet!

Got up on the wrong side of the bed today, Oz? Collarbone hurts a lot?

Yeah, have you noticed its cold up here?

Nope, I'm back in Hobart. It's cold, wet *and* bloody windy here. So
I'm not in a real good humour either.....


Some of us have been there, done that, and others - like, it would
appear, you - just wish you had and carp from the sidelines. Of
course, in your case you can & do claim anything but won't back it up
when asked.

Who's asking?

Well, I wasn't really and can't think offhand of something to ask at
the moment either....

Want to debate the identification of shark species and how to key them
out by differences in morphology? Go for it; I've got 5 weeks before
sailing. If not, shut up; I've caught, identified, tagged & released
more sharks than you'll see in a lifetime. Take a couple Pethidine
pills & lie down until you can concentrate sufficiently to post
something germane.

Hey Pete, You switched to a soprano sax..straight or bent?

I've always been straight :-)

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:27:07 +1000, Oz1
wrote:



Got up on the wrong side of the bed today, Oz? Collarbone hurts a lot?

Yeah, have you noticed its cold up here?

Actually the reason I'm grumpy is because I'm up to the wiring stage
of the Clubman I'm building and I can't pull wires, hold and crimp em.
Wanted it finished by summer and I've just realised it's not gonna
happen.

You have my sympathy. I'm going south in 5 weeks, more or less, and I
still don't have the kitchen in my new cottage!!!! Septic system &
bathroom, floor sanded & sealed - can't move in without the kitchen
finished AND IT'S RAINING AGAIN!!!!!!

2 Tasmanian winters spent building a new house is a bit much. What I
get for spending summers at sea.

AND it hurts!

Yeah - broke 3 ribs once. I haven't forgotten it. Inner Circle rum is
back in production, there's a bottle shop in Epping stocking it.
Self-administer until numb.

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:16:39 +1000, Oz1
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 05:04:40 GMT, (Peter
Wiley) wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:23:50 +1000, Oz1
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 19:20:48 -0400, "Simple Simon"
wrote:



Looks more like a porpoise to me.

Heh heh, Now that is a fine bait!

Care to venture an opinion on how many shark species there are that
have a pronounced hooked dorsal fin, small to nonexistent second
dorsal fin and a homocercal tail?

You talking to me?

Sometimes. On some topics.

If so you just didn't get it.
Wanna tell me if it was a porpoise of a dolphin, please consider the
location.

Btw you can answer your own question for us...you've got five weeks
and it'll save ammo.

Far as I'm aware, there aren't any. Only the pelagic sharks have
homocercal tails. Of those, I can't think of any that have an
invisibly small 2nd dorsal fin and a heavily hooked 1st dorsal fin.

Looks like a cetacean, doesn't key out to be any known shark.
Bob****'s full of it - as usual. As to whether it's a porpoise or
dolphin - dunno. Too little detail to tell and it's not my field.
Hell, I have a hard time telling a fin whale from a humpback. Killers
are the only ones I can identify on sight.

I keep hoping to see a blue whale but never have. Nobody has for years
(on our ships). The damned USSR has a lot to answer for, except they
got what they deserved. *******s kept killing blues long after it was
prohibited and just lied about it. Typical.

OT, a leopard seal killed a diver down south recently. Not an
Australian tho, our divers aren't there yet.

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 17:33:29 +1000, Oz1
wrote:

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 07:29:11 GMT, (Peter
Wiley) wrote:


Well, I wasn't really and can't think offhand of something to ask at
the moment either....

You could ask how I'm feeling and I'd tell you...not great, this
sleeping in a chair crap is just not happening for me!

It's a bitch. I remember trying to sleep sitting up when I had broken
ribs. Drugs are the answer. Ignore the doctor, what do they ever know?
Most I've known take Pethidine if they have a hangover :-)

Hey Pete, You switched to a soprano sax..straight or bent?

I've always been straight :-)

Oh yeah sure..all those months at sea.......

Think about the availability of marine mammals in an emergency... and
there's no shortage of penguins.

We have mixed sex scientific staff & crew. Very, very, very
mixed........ some years ago there was a panic, the ship was running
out of beer and condoms with 2 weeks to go before port. Exchange rate
was getting towards 1:1 which I thought showed a distressing lack of
imagination on the part of those who wanted the condoms. The beer was
only the rubbish we export to the USA, and not of fit drinking quality
anyway. Those with taste had adequate stocks of Guiness.

These days the ship is almost 'dry' and PS BS has taken its toll on
other aspects of seaborne life. Not as interesting as it used to be
but still heaps better than sitting in the office arguing over Customs
manifesting.