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SkitchNYC July 21st 03 03:08 AM

Excuse Me Bob but....
 
According to Simp, going to the foredeck and back to the cockpit and then to
the mast is too much moving about and lubberly,

Skitch, please let us know . . . .


How was the Coney Island shark feeding trip? Didn't make it, did you?

The_navigator© July 21st 03 03:08 AM

Excuse Me Bob but....
 
He means the testis of time.

Cheers MC

katysails wrote:
It's the proper way and has stood the test of time.

Bull...the proper way is whatever works for you....and you would know about the tests of time...I believe yours is quickly
running out...



katysails July 21st 03 03:12 AM

Excuse Me Bob but....
 


-- Pick up and secure one mooring painter

Or on your way past the mast you can undo the halyard, loop it under the cleat on the main and walk forward with it...loop it
under a deck cleat, catch the painter, flip the halyard off one cleat then the other and voila! BTW, this does work....I know
it for a fact....
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



katysails July 21st 03 03:29 AM

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

He means the testes of time.

I think those ran out a long time ago...
--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



The_navigator© July 21st 03 05:36 AM

Excuse Me Bob but....
 
He has 2?

Cheers MC

katysails wrote:
He means the testes of time.

I think those ran out a long time ago...



katysails July 21st 03 11:51 AM

Excuse Me Bob but....
 
He has 2?

An assumption, only. I'm sure I wouldn't know.

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Simple Simon July 21st 03 03:43 PM

Excuse Me Bob but....
 
It's clearly the incorrect method of sail handling.

1) longer lines mean more friction,
2) turning blocks mean more friction,
more friction means sails don't come down easily,
3) extra length of line means increased
chances of a snag or a jam,
4) longer lines means more expense,
5) longer lines mean increased tripping hazard,
6) roll-up jenny means at least two extra lines
to snag and jam and trip on,
7) leaving the tiller is no problem if the skipper
knows what he's doing,
8) sailboats don't have a bridge - they have a helm,
9) you have to go to the mast anyway to secure and
cover the mainsail so that shoots the hell out of
your 'unsafe' argument.
10) Roll-ups don't roll up too well when they are
flapping in the wind as is the case when one
picks up a mooring.

Idiots and fools including you Moroon. I can understand
ineptitude from the likes of Katy but you should know
better. Shame on you. What a lubberly outfit!



"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
It's not only idiotic to work at the mast ... it removes you from the
"bridge" when single handing.

Pick up and secure one mooring painter...... walk to the cockpit and drop
the sails.... coil the sheets and then return to the bow and work your way
back making fast the second mooring painter, bagging sails and placing the
sail cover.

This isn't work Cappy... it's part of sailing.

CM


"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
| All real sailors do their work at the mast. Leading lines
| back to the cockpit is one of the more lubberly practices
| that has become accepted lately and it's wrong, just plain
| wrong and lubberly. It is done in the name of safety and
| that's just plain stupid thinking. There is nothing unsafe
| about working at the mast to raise and lower both sails.
| It's the proper way and has stood the test of time.
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
| All my halyards are run to the cockpit.....
|
| Who the heck has a mast winch anymore?
|
| CM
|
| "Simple Simon" wrote in message
| ...
| | After making the mooring pendant fast one walks to the mast and cast
| | off both the main and jib halyards and both sails fall right down.
| |
| | Poor Katy would have to drop the main with the jenny slapping her
| | across the head and shoulders and then go back to the cockpit to
| | roll up the stupid wind up sail. Sooooo lubberly, don't cha know?
| |
| |
| | "The_navigator©" wrote in message
| ...
| | Why?
| |
| |
| | Cheers MC
| |
| | Simple Simon wrote:
| | Of course one must
| | have hank-on sails for this procedure to work right so
| | that leaves you out, honey.
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|





Simple Simon July 21st 03 03:50 PM

Excuse Me Bob but....
 
Wrong, crabby Kates! The proper way is the simple, uncomplicated
way and not systems that have extra and unnecessary moving parts,
cost more, result in more failures and dangers etc., etc.

I guess you are the type of person who uses an electric can opener
instead of a hand operated model which is superior in every way.
You probably use a dishwashing machine instead of doing them by
hand and you probably cannot have an orgasm without a vibrator.

That is the fix you have gotten yourself into by you stupid and
pathetic reliance upon unnecessary systems. Real sailors keep
it simple and they live longer, more satisfying lives and that's
a fact. No wonder Moroon is an alcoholic - he thinks and sails
like a woman - he needs something to dull his senses to forget
his lubberly way. You as a woman have an excuse for idiotic
behavior because female brains don't function logically but
Moroon????




"katysails" wrote in message ...
It's the proper way and has stood the test of time.

Bull...the proper way is whatever works for you....and you would know about the tests of time...I believe yours is quickly
running out...

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein





Simple Simon July 21st 03 03:51 PM

Excuse Me Bob but....
 
And it proves you live if an imaginary world if you have
not seen it going on. Either that or you sail even less than
40 hours a year. Some sailor. Ha a hahha h a ha hah ah ah!


"katysails" wrote in message ...

Usually there is a lot of hollering and screaming
going on while the mooring procedure takes place

Like I said...you live in a strange and sad world if that's what you're exposed to all the time...no wonder you're warped.
--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein





Capt. Mooron July 21st 03 04:47 PM

Excuse Me Bob but....
 
Of fer cryin' out loud.... I never heard such a line of whining from
someone that purports to be a sailor in my life. I have oversized blocks and
very fair runs... my 12 year old nephew can hoist the main without a winch
required until the last 2 feet of hoist. If you're stupid and clumsy enough
to trip you deserve to fall. Expense is irrelevant when it comes to lines I
don't scrimp on quality. My boat no only has a bridge and a helm I also
have several other locations ..10 Forward, The Libido Deck, 4 Battle
Stations and a "brig".

The only idiot is the person so inexperienced in a variety of sailing
vessels and configurations as to tout "his" system as absolute for use in
any vessel. Stand Down and Stand By One... If I get down there this winter
I'll show you how things work on a proper vessel.

CM

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
| It's clearly the incorrect method of sail handling.
|
| 1) longer lines mean more friction,
| 2) turning blocks mean more friction,
| more friction means sails don't come down easily,
| 3) extra length of line means increased
| chances of a snag or a jam,
| 4) longer lines means more expense,
| 5) longer lines mean increased tripping hazard,
| 6) roll-up jenny means at least two extra lines
| to snag and jam and trip on,
| 7) leaving the tiller is no problem if the skipper
| knows what he's doing,
| 8) sailboats don't have a bridge - they have a helm,
| 9) you have to go to the mast anyway to secure and
| cover the mainsail so that shoots the hell out of
| your 'unsafe' argument.
| 10) Roll-ups don't roll up too well when they are
| flapping in the wind as is the case when one
| picks up a mooring.
|
| Idiots and fools including you Moroon. I can understand
| ineptitude from the likes of Katy but you should know
| better. Shame on you. What a lubberly outfit!
|
|
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
| It's not only idiotic to work at the mast ... it removes you from the
| "bridge" when single handing.
|
| Pick up and secure one mooring painter...... walk to the cockpit and
drop
| the sails.... coil the sheets and then return to the bow and work your
way
| back making fast the second mooring painter, bagging sails and placing
the
| sail cover.
|
| This isn't work Cappy... it's part of sailing.
|
| CM
|
|
| "Simple Simon" wrote in message
| ...
| | All real sailors do their work at the mast. Leading lines
| | back to the cockpit is one of the more lubberly practices
| | that has become accepted lately and it's wrong, just plain
| | wrong and lubberly. It is done in the name of safety and
| | that's just plain stupid thinking. There is nothing unsafe
| | about working at the mast to raise and lower both sails.
| | It's the proper way and has stood the test of time.
| |
| |
| | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| | All my halyards are run to the cockpit.....
| |
| | Who the heck has a mast winch anymore?
| |
| | CM
| |
| | "Simple Simon" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | After making the mooring pendant fast one walks to the mast and
cast
| | | off both the main and jib halyards and both sails fall right down.
| | |
| | | Poor Katy would have to drop the main with the jenny slapping her
| | | across the head and shoulders and then go back to the cockpit to
| | | roll up the stupid wind up sail. Sooooo lubberly, don't cha know?
| | |
| | |
| | | "The_navigator©" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | Why?
| | |
| | |
| | | Cheers MC
| | |
| | | Simple Simon wrote:
| | | Of course one must
| | | have hank-on sails for this procedure to work right so
| | | that leaves you out, honey.
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|




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