Excuse Me Bob but....
 

On 21 Jul 2003 17:15:47 GMT, (CANDChelp) wrote this
crap:

You and Cheech and Chong!

Cheech has been sailing for longer than you and on better boats. My friend owns
his old boat, a Pacific Seacraft 34 called Lonely Knights. I think he sails a
big J-boat now.

RB

I saw him in "Yellowbeard"




Ave Imperator Bush!
Bush Was Right! Four More Beers!

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

of course, one can easily pick those
middle=aged members on this list who destroyed their brains in
the '60s and '70s by using copper implements (and jewellery, and
bracelets, and...).

Copper turns your skin green..not very attractive, even for a pseudo-hippy...silver was so much more attraactive and if it
started to turn your arm or neck black, yoiu could always coat it with a layer of clear nail polish....

Harkening back (sailing content...Harken) people actually threw out their staunless steel? I've had my RevereWear for years
upon years...that aluminum stuff is crap to cook in and most of it is coated in Teflon....If I wanted non-skid food, I'd drink a
cup of olive oil with my meals...it's be healthier....(if not very interesting the next morning...)

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katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

NOOOOOOoooooooo! ironwear, before aluminum took over post WW2.


We;;, there you have it...I wasn't born until post WW2...I knew I had an excuse...

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

Mature MEN are not sexually interested in 12 year olds. That doesn't mean that
there are not plenty of cases of arrested development around, like you and
Neal,
who think this is somehow "normal".

Billy Jane, I don't approve of kiddie porn, but sadly, if you study history at
all, sex with 12-15 year olds is quite common and normal for the species.

Sorry.

RB

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

Given enough time frustrated
like they are and they do eventually go ballistic.

Look at poor Billy's posts! He just wrote something very disturbing about
hurting 14 year old teens.
He's already there.

RB

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

Gladly.

My boat heaves-to with no forereaching when the tiller is tied
off so the rudder is 90 degrees to her centerline. This means I
can sail close hauled to a point directly upwind of a mooring,
come up and around so the jib backs, tie the tiller off at 90
degrees and drift about one knot or less depending on the
wind down on the mooring ball.

I then grab the mooring pendant and make the line fast to a
cleat on the bow. This happens while the jib is still backed
and the vessel is still drifting sideways. Then I walk back to
the mast where both the jib and main halyard are made fast
to their respective cleats. I cast off the jib halyard as soon
as the vessel snubs up on the mooring and points her prow
into the wind. The jib falls straight down on the foredeck.

Then I let go the main halyard and the main falls straight
down on the boom since the wind is still directly on the
bow. This all takes place in a flash as if both sails are
falling almost simultaneously. I keep the mast slot lubed
with silicone spray so the slugs don't hand up. The halyards
cause no friction because they don't go snaking through
various turning blocks to the cockpit as on those with
lubberly boats. Also, I have wire to rope halyards and
these run very, very free. The advantage of this type
halyard combined with hank-on jib means it is very
fast to drop the sail. Winding up a headsail while it is
flapping usually cause trouble for the wind-up crowd
while a little flapping assists a hank-on jib to fall.



"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ...
Neal,

Please explain your techigue of heaving-to to drift sideward?

Also, explain the advantage of "Hanked sails in a heave-to attitude?

OT

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

The main does not stay on the boom nice and flaked.
Usually there is a flap or two on one side and the
rest of the sail on the other. It is an easy task to
then flake the sail on the boom starting from the
outhaul and adding gaskets till the sail is secure
and ready for the sail cover.

Keep up the anchoring under sail lessons
and I like the fact that you have them do it
with both sails still up. This is important in
case the anchor does not bite and you have
to get underway again in a hurry for some
reason like dragging down on another boat.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
Interesting, but how do you keep the mainsail from falling
off the boom? Even in light wind, this is going to be an
issue. Of course, you would have sail ties ready, but it
would still be a fair mess, even with hand flaking from
the mast.

On the Catalina 27 that I teach on, I have the students
anchor under sail. Since we're picking an area that
generally has some blanket from the wind, flogging jib
sheets aren't an issue. We just head up close hauled,
then turn into it, slowing the boat to zero, deploy, and
let the boat back down while letter out rode. Cello, it's
done.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Gladly.

My boat heaves-to with no forereaching when the tiller is tied
off so the rudder is 90 degrees to her centerline. This means I
can sail close hauled to a point directly upwind of a mooring,
come up and around so the jib backs, tie the tiller off at 90
degrees and drift about one knot or less depending on the
wind down on the mooring ball.

I then grab the mooring pendant and make the line fast to a
cleat on the bow. This happens while the jib is still backed
and the vessel is still drifting sideways. Then I walk back to
the mast where both the jib and main halyard are made fast
to their respective cleats. I cast off the jib halyard as soon
as the vessel snubs up on the mooring and points her prow
into the wind. The jib falls straight down on the foredeck.

Then I let go the main halyard and the main falls straight
down on the boom since the wind is still directly on the
bow. This all takes place in a flash as if both sails are
falling almost simultaneously. I keep the mast slot lubed
with silicone spray so the slugs don't hand up. The halyards
cause no friction because they don't go snaking through
various turning blocks to the cockpit as on those with
lubberly boats. Also, I have wire to rope halyards and
these run very, very free. The advantage of this type
halyard combined with hank-on jib means it is very
fast to drop the sail. Winding up a headsail while it is
flapping usually cause trouble for the wind-up crowd
while a little flapping assists a hank-on jib to fall.



"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Neal,

Please explain your techigue of heaving-to to drift sideward?

Also, explain the advantage of "Hanked sails in a heave-to attitude?

OT

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

Hmmm.. isn't the main a mess on deck? I prefer not to walk
on sails, since they're pretty slippery. I suppose you could
just bag the sail on itself. We've done that a few times when
there wasn't a lot of time to flake.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...


The main does not stay on the boom nice and flaked.
Usually there is a flap or two on one side and the
rest of the sail on the other. It is an easy task to
then flake the sail on the boom starting from the
outhaul and adding gaskets till the sail is secure
and ready for the sail cover.

It's a good practice in the bay. I also teach on a lake,
but there you have no choice, since they don't allow
any engines on the lake. Of course, the boats are
smaller and the wind is lighter.

Keep up the anchoring under sail lessons
and I like the fact that you have them do it
with both sails still up. This is important in
case the anchor does not bite and you have
to get underway again in a hurry for some
reason like dragging down on another boat.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Interesting, but how do you keep the mainsail from falling
off the boom? Even in light wind, this is going to be an
issue. Of course, you would have sail ties ready, but it
would still be a fair mess, even with hand flaking from
the mast.

On the Catalina 27 that I teach on, I have the students
anchor under sail. Since we're picking an area that
generally has some blanket from the wind, flogging jib
sheets aren't an issue. We just head up close hauled,
then turn into it, slowing the boat to zero, deploy, and
let the boat back down while letter out rode. Cello, it's
done.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Gladly.

My boat heaves-to with no forereaching when the tiller is tied
off so the rudder is 90 degrees to her centerline. This means I
can sail close hauled to a point directly upwind of a mooring,
come up and around so the jib backs, tie the tiller off at 90
degrees and drift about one knot or less depending on the
wind down on the mooring ball.

I then grab the mooring pendant and make the line fast to a
cleat on the bow. This happens while the jib is still backed
and the vessel is still drifting sideways. Then I walk back to
the mast where both the jib and main halyard are made fast
to their respective cleats. I cast off the jib halyard as soon
as the vessel snubs up on the mooring and points her prow
into the wind. The jib falls straight down on the foredeck.

Then I let go the main halyard and the main falls straight
down on the boom since the wind is still directly on the
bow. This all takes place in a flash as if both sails are
falling almost simultaneously. I keep the mast slot lubed
with silicone spray so the slugs don't hand up. The halyards
cause no friction because they don't go snaking through
various turning blocks to the cockpit as on those with
lubberly boats. Also, I have wire to rope halyards and
these run very, very free. The advantage of this type
halyard combined with hank-on jib means it is very
fast to drop the sail. Winding up a headsail while it is
flapping usually cause trouble for the wind-up crowd
while a little flapping assists a hank-on jib to fall.



"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Neal,

Please explain your techigue of heaving-to to drift sideward?

Also, explain the advantage of "Hanked sails in a heave-to attitude?

OT

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

When people generally only lived to be 35-45 years old and you were ancient at 60 sex was "normal" at 14-15 to keep up the
population. It is no longer necessary to populate and with longer lifespans and better health, emotional maturity now lags
behind...the 14-15 year old girl of even 100 years ago was more emotionally mature and prepared to have a family then the
typical 14=15 year old of today. It was a necessity of the species. We have now adapted out of that faze and no longer need to
force our children into early maturity in order to survive as a species. Those who don't heed adaptation often gpo extinct.
Yay. No more Neal.

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

Excuse Me Bob but....
 

Don't you wish? I consider it my duty to plague you until
my dying day which isn't until 2046 according to a link
that was posted here not too long ago.


"katysails" wrote in message ...
Yay. No more Neal.