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![]() Dirk Barends wrote: Steve wrote: [...] I think it's useful to use the words "lean" and "edge/heel" (kayaks edge, open boats heel) separately. Personally I prefer to use the word 'leaning', because it is easier to understand what is meant by leaning (to the) right or left, where edging (to the) left or right gives more room for misinterpretations... as I have noticed. I make the distinction precisely because i want to be able to use the terms differently. So that I can say to a beginner, for example, "Don't lean, edge the boat" Unless I'm teaching a low brace turn, which is leaned, by my definition. Also, in the Netherlands at least, edging right is leaning left, and vice versa, and that makes it even less desirable to use those words together indeed to avoid confusion! So, you always say "lean" (or "leun"), but then add "boat" or "body" to the front of it to make your meaning clear. That should work I like my way better, but I wouldn't want to talk you out of yours. The important thing is consistency. If "lean" can mean two things, saying "Lean!" is ambiguous. "Lean the boat!" isn't. Other interesting article to read about leaning: http://www.paddlermagazine.com/issues/1999_2/Skheel.htm Note that Mark uses the terms "boat lean" or "J-lean" a couple of times initially, then abandons the word and uses "heel" for the rest of the article. That's consistent with the way he teaches in person, IIRC. Steve |