On 24-Apr-2004, (Gene Cosloy) wrote:

Ellesmere. That was enough for me, unless I was interested in
strong prostate stimulation along with my paddling, I did not like
that seat with the raised prostate bumb in the middle. What were those
Quebec folks thinking?

For me, it's the most comfortable seat I've ever sat in.

Sounds like you're too big for the seat. Either that or you're pushing
your hips forward. Remember that proper paddling posture means that
you spine is relatively straight and your shoulders are above or barely
forward of your hips. No slouching and no leaning against the backrest.

A friend of mine ordered an Ellesmere with a bumpless seat. Boreal Designs
simply filled the mold at the front and made a seat that has the curves
everywhere but with the bump flattened out.

Mike

Yeah, the Ellesmere seat was a killer for me as well. So, I yanked it out
and essentially duplicated the seat in minicell foam leaving the hump only
way forward. Now, it's very comfortable and I really enjoy the boat.



"Michael Daly" wrote in message
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On 24-Apr-2004, (Gene Cosloy) wrote:

Ellesmere. That was enough for me, unless I was interested in
strong prostate stimulation along with my paddling, I did not like
that seat with the raised prostate bumb in the middle. What were those
Quebec folks thinking?

For me, it's the most comfortable seat I've ever sat in.

Sounds like you're too big for the seat. Either that or you're pushing
your hips forward. Remember that proper paddling posture means that
you spine is relatively straight and your shoulders are above or barely
forward of your hips. No slouching and no leaning against the backrest.

A friend of mine ordered an Ellesmere with a bumpless seat. Boreal
Designs
simply filled the mold at the front and made a seat that has the curves
everywhere but with the bump flattened out.

Mike

"news" wrote in
:

Yeah, the Ellesmere seat was a killer for me as well. So, I yanked it
out and essentially duplicated the seat in minicell foam leaving the
hump only way forward. Now, it's very comfortable and I really enjoy
the boat.

Interesting idea. I've seen a couple of articles around on how to build a
fiberglass seat (Ross Liedy's site had a good description). One could make
a mould from the original seat, modify it slightly so that it doesn't have
that bump, and then lay up a new seat.

One of the articles I read described creating the mold for a seat by sitting
in a box of sand covered with thin plastic. That way you can create a seat
that fits your body perfectly.

"John Fereira" wrote...

Yeah, the Ellesmere seat was a killer for me as well. So, I yanked it
out and essentially duplicated the seat in minicell foam

Interesting idea. I've seen a couple of articles around on how to build a
fiberglass seat (Ross Liedy's site had a good description). One could
make
a mould from the original seat, modify it slightly so that it doesn't have
that bump, and then lay up a new seat.

One of the articles I read described creating the mold for a seat by
sitting
in a box of sand covered with thin plastic. That way you can create a
seat
that fits your body perfectly.

A Thermarest pad works just fine for me! Relatively inexpensive,
adjustable, and low in the hull! A couple squares of Velcro hold it in...

"John R Weiss" wrote in
news:9u9mc.28325$IG1.1221001@attbi_s04:

"John Fereira" wrote...

Yeah, the Ellesmere seat was a killer for me as well. So, I yanked
it out and essentially duplicated the seat in minicell foam

Interesting idea. I've seen a couple of articles around on how to
build a fiberglass seat (Ross Liedy's site had a good description).
One could make a mould from the original seat, modify it slightly so
that it doesn't have that bump, and then lay up a new seat.

One of the articles I read described creating the mold for a seat by
sitting in a box of sand covered with thin plastic. That way you can
create a seat that fits your body perfectly.

A Thermarest pad works just fine for me! Relatively inexpensive,
adjustable, and low in the hull! A couple squares of Velcro hold it
in...

A thermarest pad provides no back, thigh, or hip support. If you want good
body to boat contact (which you would if you want good control) you're still
going to need some kind of back band and padded cheek plates. In some
cases, a thermarest might be *too* low in the hull, giving too much initial
stability. I once paddled a Guillemot that was not quite finished that was
outfitted with only a thin sleeping pad. I practically had to come out the
seat to get the boat on edge and the Guillemot is only 20" wide.

"John Fereira" wrote...

A thermarest pad provides no back, thigh, or hip support. If you want good
body to boat contact (which you would if you want good control) you're still
going to need some kind of back band and padded cheek plates.

True. The kayak is wood, and the backband wraps around from cheekplates between
the coaming and hull bottom. There is enough adjustment available in the
backband to accommodate personal preferences.