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WaIIy wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 08:29:07 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

His boss is not a licensed plumber

So what?



Not one of the officers of Local 50 of the union shop of plumbers is on
the list of licensees.



Are they practicing plumbing at the moment?
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Boater wrote:
WaIIy wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 08:29:07 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

His boss is not a licensed plumber
So what?



Not one of the officers of Local 50 of the union shop of plumbers is on
the list of licensees.



Are they practicing plumbing at the moment?


It is my understanding that to be an officer of a trade union you
actually have to remain proficient in that trade. Which means you have
to actually turn a wrench for a certain number of hours a year. This is
to ensure that you stay in touch with they members you represent. At
least this is the way it is in the long shore mans union. A guy who was
a Director of Software Engineering at a company where I worked had to
actually go work the docks one day a month to keep his $75,000 a year
union officer job.
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BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
WaIIy wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 08:29:07 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

His boss is not a licensed plumber
So what?


Not one of the officers of Local 50 of the union shop of plumbers is on
the list of licensees.



Are they practicing plumbing at the moment?


It is my understanding that to be an officer of a trade union you
actually have to remain proficient in that trade.


Your understanding is wrong. Further, proficient if it is require does
not mean working at the trade. Typically in the building trades you have
to have worked at the trade and been a journeyman/journeywoman, and, of
course, your book has to be current to hold office. Some locals require
officers to be "active" members, and therefore theoretically available
for work. Others allow non-active, retired members to hold office. There
are no national rules for such.

My "book" is up to date and I pay monthly dues, but I am by choice
"inactive" in my local and therefore ineligible to run for office.
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On Oct 18, 12:14*pm, Boater wrote:
BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
WaIIy wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 08:29:07 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


His boss is not a licensed plumber
So what?


Not one of the officers of Local 50 of the union shop of plumbers is on
the list of licensees.


Are they practicing plumbing at the moment?


It is my understanding that to be an officer of a trade union you
actually have to remain proficient in that trade.


Your understanding is wrong. Further, proficient if it is require does
not mean working at the trade. Typically in the building trades you have
to have worked at the trade and been a journeyman/journeywoman, and, of
course, your book has to be current to hold office. Some locals require
officers to be "active" members, and therefore theoretically available
for work. Others allow non-active, retired members to hold office. There
are no national rules for such.

My "book" is up to date and I pay monthly dues, but I am by choice
"inactive" in my local and therefore ineligible to run for office.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


"Further, proficient if it is require does not mean working at the
trade"
This sentence from the person who claims to have graduated from Yale
with a liberal arts degree!!!!! WAFA
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On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 10:49:50 -0400, Boater
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WaIIy wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 08:29:07 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

His boss is not a licensed plumber
So what?



Not one of the officers of Local 50 of the union shop of plumbers is on
the list of licensees.



Are they practicing plumbing at the moment?


The question is are they accepting plumbing jobs, sending guys out to
do the work, and taking the money? That is what requires the license.
The owner/operator of the business needs a license, but the plumbers
who work for him don't.


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Richard Casady wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 10:49:50 -0400, Boater
wrote:

WaIIy wrote:
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 08:29:07 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

His boss is not a licensed plumber
So what?

Not one of the officers of Local 50 of the union shop of plumbers is on
the list of licensees.


Are they practicing plumbing at the moment?


The question is are they accepting plumbing jobs, sending guys out to
do the work, and taking the money? That is what requires the license.
The owner/operator of the business needs a license, but the plumbers
who work for him don't.


That depends upon where you are working. There is no uniform set of
rules, obviously.
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