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[email protected] September 2nd 08 02:02 PM

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On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 07:20:43 -0400, BAR wrote:


If he was a member of the Communist Party, I would surely want
clarification. As it is, his only "ties" are that he sat on a
committee with a communist. As it turns out, Palin's ties to the AIP
are not tenuous, she was a member. That doesn't disqualify her, but
some clarification would be helpful. As I have said, I'm not sure I'd
want a secessionist as President.


What about the entire Republic...I mean State of Texax?


Funny you should mention Texas. I've spent a lot of time there, and it
always seemed to me, Texans are Texans first, and Americans second.
Don't get me wrong, Texans are damn fine Americans, but they do seem to
take their state more seriously than most Americans take their respective
states.

Look, McCain's motto is "Country First", and he's lived his life
accordingly. The AIP's motto is "Alaska First, Alaska Always". The
Party's founder, Joe Vogler, is buried in Canada, because he didn't wish
to be buried under the American Flag. It might amount to nothing, but I
think Palin should be asked to clarify the situation.

HK September 2nd 08 02:05 PM

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wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 07:20:43 -0400, BAR wrote:


If he was a member of the Communist Party, I would surely want
clarification. As it is, his only "ties" are that he sat on a
committee with a communist. As it turns out, Palin's ties to the AIP
are not tenuous, she was a member. That doesn't disqualify her, but
some clarification would be helpful. As I have said, I'm not sure I'd
want a secessionist as President.

What about the entire Republic...I mean State of Texax?


Funny you should mention Texas. I've spent a lot of time there, and it
always seemed to me, Texans are Texans first, and Americans second.
Don't get me wrong, Texans are damn fine Americans, but they do seem to
take their state more seriously than most Americans take their respective
states.

Look, McCain's motto is "Country First", and he's lived his life
accordingly. The AIP's motto is "Alaska First, Alaska Always". The
Party's founder, Joe Vogler, is buried in Canada, because he didn't wish
to be buried under the American Flag. It might amount to nothing, but I
think Palin should be asked to clarify the situation.



Here's a question for you or anyone else.

How do you think Palin will fare at a *real* press conference for a
couple of hours where *real* reporters ask the usual sort of tough
questions?

Or, do you think McCain will let her have such an event?

William Black September 2nd 08 02:09 PM

This is not a test
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
William Black wrote:


The phrase you're looking for here is:

"Political correctness run mad".



That works.


Actually, it's perfect.

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.




Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. September 2nd 08 02:11 PM

This is not a test
 
hk wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 07:20:43 -0400, BAR wrote:


If he was a member of the Communist Party, I would surely want
clarification. As it is, his only "ties" are that he sat on a
committee with a communist. As it turns out, Palin's ties to the AIP
are not tenuous, she was a member. That doesn't disqualify her, but
some clarification would be helpful. As I have said, I'm not sure I'd
want a secessionist as President.
What about the entire Republic...I mean State of Texax?


Funny you should mention Texas. I've spent a lot of time there, and
it always seemed to me, Texans are Texans first, and Americans
second. Don't get me wrong, Texans are damn fine Americans, but they
do seem to take their state more seriously than most Americans take
their respective states.

Look, McCain's motto is "Country First", and he's lived his life
accordingly. The AIP's motto is "Alaska First, Alaska Always". The
Party's founder, Joe Vogler, is buried in Canada, because he didn't
wish to be buried under the American Flag. It might amount to
nothing, but I think Palin should be asked to clarify the situation.



Here's a question for you or anyone else.

How do you think Palin will fare at a *real* press conference for a
couple of hours where *real* reporters ask the usual sort of tough
questions?

Or, do you think McCain will let her have such an event?


Harry,
Why don't you just take rec.boats out of the posting NG, and post at
sci.military.naval?

BAR[_2_] September 2nd 08 02:15 PM

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hk wrote:
Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote:

:On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:30:34 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
:
wrote:
: : :On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:44:32 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote: :
: :
: : Oh, and I note you dodged the question. Let's try again. If the
: issue : is the mother and not the daughter, WHAT DID THE MOTHER DO
THAT
: WARRANTS : DRAGGING SOME POOR 17 YEAR OLD GIRL OUT INTO PUBLIC
: SCRUTINY? :
: :I'd point out, the mother is the one who did the dragging. One,
she is
: :the one who released the statement. Two, if she didn't know she
should
: :have known, that this would come out. :
: : Still waiting for an answer to the question that was asked...
:
:Ask Sarah Palin. She's the one who dragged her daughter into public
:scrutiny.
:

And why was that necessary? Still waiting for an answer to the
question that was asked...



Why was it necessary for Mama Moose to disclose her daughter's pregnancy?

Because she failed to do it when her selection was announced.


Everyone in her home town already new about it and she had told McCain
about it too.

In American politics, every aspect of a candidate's personal life has
become grist for the mill. Her personal life includes her family.


Excellent. Let's start talking about Obama's ties to the Communist Party
of the USA.

[email protected] September 2nd 08 02:15 PM

This is not a test
 
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 08:05:01 -0400, hk wrote:


How do you think Palin will fare at a *real* press conference for a
couple of hours where *real* reporters ask the usual sort of tough
questions?

Or, do you think McCain will let her have such an event?


I don't think he'll be able to avoid it. So far, I don't see anything
that will disqualify her, depending on the results of the trooper
investigation. However, I can't for the life of me, see what she brings
to the ticket. And her vetting? McCain's campaign is starting to look
amateurish.

BAR[_2_] September 2nd 08 02:17 PM

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hk wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 07:20:43 -0400, BAR wrote:


If he was a member of the Communist Party, I would surely want
clarification. As it is, his only "ties" are that he sat on a
committee with a communist. As it turns out, Palin's ties to the AIP
are not tenuous, she was a member. That doesn't disqualify her, but
some clarification would be helpful. As I have said, I'm not sure I'd
want a secessionist as President.
What about the entire Republic...I mean State of Texax?


Funny you should mention Texas. I've spent a lot of time there, and
it always seemed to me, Texans are Texans first, and Americans
second. Don't get me wrong, Texans are damn fine Americans, but they
do seem to take their state more seriously than most Americans take
their respective states.

Look, McCain's motto is "Country First", and he's lived his life
accordingly. The AIP's motto is "Alaska First, Alaska Always". The
Party's founder, Joe Vogler, is buried in Canada, because he didn't
wish to be buried under the American Flag. It might amount to
nothing, but I think Palin should be asked to clarify the situation.



Here's a question for you or anyone else.

How do you think Palin will fare at a *real* press conference for a
couple of hours where *real* reporters ask the usual sort of tough
questions?


Do you mean the tough questions that they ask Obama or the the tough
questions they ask Republicans?

Or, do you think McCain will let her have such an event?


Valgard Toebreakerson[_2_] September 2nd 08 02:25 PM

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On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 07:29:35 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
...


There's your answer. You and Reggie say the same thing. Maybe some new
blood will make this newsgroup interesting again. I'm tired of reading
about golf games, travel trailers, little kids racing motorcycles,
guitars, et cetera, the usual fare in here.



Shall we make a list of the things we are tired of reading originating from
you, including the foul mouthed, personal insults that you have become so
infamous for?

You're cute. You complain about the OT posts, yet you initiate the majority
of them, saturate the place with political cut and pastes, then claim the NG
has gone down the tubes.

I am done. I have far more interesting and important things to do than to
spend my time debating a hypocritical, self centered blowhard.

It was fun for a while, but the stink is getting to be too much.


He's being paid on his Union "consulting" contract per post - I heard
something like $2.90 per post - part of his "political" activity
required by contract.

Based on his past ranting's and ravings, one might suppose that Krause
is held in high esteem by anarchists. You know, the kind that throw
bleach at 80 year old men and women attending a political convention -
or cement/sand bags off bridges at buses heading for the convention -
storm trooper terror tactics and let's not forget kill flawed babies
because they don't fit the model for being human, make up stuff and
post it on the Internet in a sort of agit-prop - that kind of thing.

Psst - heard all the above on the grapevine - can't prove it of course
- all unsubstantiated rumor - well, except for the part about killing
babies - that's true, but the rest - well, you know it fits the
situation on circumstance - 100 posts day is almost $300. And he has
advocated violence in the past - not directly, but indirectly using
provocative language and insults. So you know - connect the dots.

I'm doing a Google search right now for pictures of Krause in clown
regalia - which according to rumor (strictly on the hush hush you
understand - just between you and me) - I've been told that there are
pictures out there under the clown name Yo Ho - The Butt Pirate. Any
help in either confirming or dispelling these vicious rumors would be
appreciated. He does have a Yo Ho pirate graphic on his boat and he
has professed a favorable view of gay issues and he is a clown. It's
not a stretch to connect some dots.

There is also a rumor of Krause being in a gay midget porn movie -
we'll have to keep digging on that one because - well because we
wouldn't want to make it appear that somebody appeared in a gay midget
porn movie when he didn't - which he did according to rumor, but we
can't say that he did unless we actually find Krause acting in a gay
midget porn movie.

Not that there is anything wrong with that. Gay Midget Porn that is.

It's all supposition folks - let's not get carried away.

But you know - rumors have an element of truth in them.


HK September 2nd 08 02:29 PM

This is not a test
 
wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 08:05:01 -0400, hk wrote:


How do you think Palin will fare at a *real* press conference for a
couple of hours where *real* reporters ask the usual sort of tough
questions?

Or, do you think McCain will let her have such an event?


I don't think he'll be able to avoid it. So far, I don't see anything
that will disqualify her, depending on the results of the trooper
investigation. However, I can't for the life of me, see what she brings
to the ticket. And her vetting? McCain's campaign is starting to look
amateurish.



You mean, *legally* disqualify her? You're probably right, though that
troopergate mess might spit out something serious, such as perjury, if
she lies to the official investigators.

What she brings to McCain's campaign is a bone to throw to the
simple-minded evangelicals. She's the bone. They eat her up because,
well, she is so very "righteous" to them.

If it is true, as it has been reported, that McCain only met her once,
and briefly, before making the phone call inviting her on the ticket,
then he, indeed, is an amateur.


Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. September 2nd 08 02:31 PM

This is not a test
 
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 07:29:35 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
...

There's your answer. You and Reggie say the same thing. Maybe some new
blood will make this newsgroup interesting again. I'm tired of reading
about golf games, travel trailers, little kids racing motorcycles,
guitars, et cetera, the usual fare in here.


Shall we make a list of the things we are tired of reading originating from
you, including the foul mouthed, personal insults that you have become so
infamous for?

You're cute. You complain about the OT posts, yet you initiate the majority
of them, saturate the place with political cut and pastes, then claim the NG
has gone down the tubes.

I am done. I have far more interesting and important things to do than to
spend my time debating a hypocritical, self centered blowhard.

It was fun for a while, but the stink is getting to be too much.


He's being paid on his Union "consulting" contract per post - I heard
something like $2.90 per post - part of his "political" activity
required by contract.

Based on his past ranting's and ravings, one might suppose that Krause
is held in high esteem by anarchists. You know, the kind that throw
bleach at 80 year old men and women attending a political convention -
or cement/sand bags off bridges at buses heading for the convention -
storm trooper terror tactics and let's not forget kill flawed babies
because they don't fit the model for being human, make up stuff and
post it on the Internet in a sort of agit-prop - that kind of thing.

Psst - heard all the above on the grapevine - can't prove it of course
- all unsubstantiated rumor - well, except for the part about killing
babies - that's true, but the rest - well, you know it fits the
situation on circumstance - 100 posts day is almost $300. And he has
advocated violence in the past - not directly, but indirectly using
provocative language and insults. So you know - connect the dots.

I'm doing a Google search right now for pictures of Krause in clown
regalia - which according to rumor (strictly on the hush hush you
understand - just between you and me) - I've been told that there are
pictures out there under the clown name Yo Ho - The Butt Pirate. Any
help in either confirming or dispelling these vicious rumors would be
appreciated. He does have a Yo Ho pirate graphic on his boat and he
has professed a favorable view of gay issues and he is a clown. It's
not a stretch to connect some dots.

There is also a rumor of Krause being in a gay midget porn movie -
we'll have to keep digging on that one because - well because we
wouldn't want to make it appear that somebody appeared in a gay midget
porn movie when he didn't - which he did according to rumor, but we
can't say that he did unless we actually find Krause acting in a gay
midget porn movie.

Not that there is anything wrong with that. Gay Midget Porn that is.

It's all supposition folks - let's not get carried away.

But you know - rumors have an element of truth in them.


Wasn't it Krause who said his Navy (Yo-Ho) ("is based upon nothing but
rum, sodomy, and the lash."). I am not sure if there is any truth to
the rumor, but blogs are stating that he is looking for a new cabin boy.

HK September 2nd 08 02:32 PM

This is not a test
 
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 07:29:35 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
...

There's your answer. You and Reggie say the same thing. Maybe some new
blood will make this newsgroup interesting again. I'm tired of reading
about golf games, travel trailers, little kids racing motorcycles,
guitars, et cetera, the usual fare in here.


Shall we make a list of the things we are tired of reading originating from
you, including the foul mouthed, personal insults that you have become so
infamous for?

You're cute. You complain about the OT posts, yet you initiate the majority
of them, saturate the place with political cut and pastes, then claim the NG
has gone down the tubes.

I am done. I have far more interesting and important things to do than to
spend my time debating a hypocritical, self centered blowhard.

It was fun for a while, but the stink is getting to be too much.


He's being paid on his Union "consulting" contract per post - I heard
something like $2.90 per post - part of his "political" activity
required by contract.



Why, it's Brownie! Shouldn't you be busy over at "The Other Place,"
deleting posts you don't like, and promoting the posting of photos of
travel trailers, rugrats, golf clubs, and suchlike, and trying to
convince everyone that your wonderful ETEC outboard breaks through those
silly Laws of Thermodynamics and actually creates gasoline at your
typically running speeds?

Good Job, as always, Brownie.

Fred J. McCall[_3_] September 2nd 08 02:33 PM

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hk wrote:

:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: wrote:
:
: :On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:30:34 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:
: :
: :
wrote:
: :
: : :On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:44:32 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote: :
: : :
: : : Oh, and I note you dodged the question. Let's try again. If the
: : issue : is the mother and not the daughter, WHAT DID THE MOTHER DO THAT
: : WARRANTS : DRAGGING SOME POOR 17 YEAR OLD GIRL OUT INTO PUBLIC
: : SCRUTINY? :
: : :I'd point out, the mother is the one who did the dragging. One, she is
: : :the one who released the statement. Two, if she didn't know she should
: : :have known, that this would come out. :
: :
: : Still waiting for an answer to the question that was asked...
: :
: :Ask Sarah Palin. She's the one who dragged her daughter into public
: :scrutiny.
: :
:
: And why was that necessary? Still waiting for an answer to the
: question that was asked...
:
:
:Why was it necessary for Mama Moose to disclose her daughter's pregnancy?
:
:Because she failed to do it when her selection was announced.
:

So it was necessary for her to announce it because she hadn't
announced it earlier? Yeah, that's the sort of 'logic' I expect from
idiots like you.

:
:In American politics, every aspect of a candidate's personal life has
:become grist for the mill. Her personal life includes her family.
:
:Got it?
:

Yeah, I got it. You're a lying hypocrite.

--
"You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of
your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear."
-- Mark Twain

Jack Linthicum September 2nd 08 02:35 PM

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On Sep 2, 8:15*am, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 08:05:01 -0400, hk wrote:
How do you think Palin will fare at a *real* press conference for a
couple of hours where *real* reporters ask the usual sort of tough
questions?


Or, do you think McCain will let her have such an event?


I don't think he'll be able to avoid it. *So far, I don't see anything
that will disqualify her, depending on the results of the trooper
investigation. *However, I can't for the life of me, see what she brings
to the ticket. *And her vetting? *McCain's campaign is starting to look
amateurish.


http://www.intrade.com/#

Fred J. McCall[_3_] September 2nd 08 02:35 PM

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"William Black" wrote:

:
:"hk" wrote in message
...
: William Black wrote:
:
: The phrase you're looking for here is:
:
: "Political correctness run mad".
:
:
: That works.
:
:Actually, it's perfect.
:

Nothing is perfect, Willie.

More accurate would be, "Lying hk run mad."

--
"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the
soul with evil."
-- Socrates

Fred J. McCall[_3_] September 2nd 08 02:36 PM

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BAR wrote:

:hk wrote:
: Fred J. McCall wrote:
: wrote:
:
: :On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:30:34 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:
: :
: :
wrote:
: : : :On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:44:32 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote: :
: : :
: : : Oh, and I note you dodged the question. Let's try again. If the
: : issue : is the mother and not the daughter, WHAT DID THE MOTHER DO
: THAT
: : WARRANTS : DRAGGING SOME POOR 17 YEAR OLD GIRL OUT INTO PUBLIC
: : SCRUTINY? :
: : :I'd point out, the mother is the one who did the dragging. One,
: she is
: : :the one who released the statement. Two, if she didn't know she
: should
: : :have known, that this would come out. :
: : : Still waiting for an answer to the question that was asked...
: :
: :Ask Sarah Palin. She's the one who dragged her daughter into public
: :scrutiny.
: :
:
: And why was that necessary? Still waiting for an answer to the
: question that was asked...
:
:
:
: Why was it necessary for Mama Moose to disclose her daughter's pregnancy?
:
: Because she failed to do it when her selection was announced.
:
:Everyone in her home town already new about it and she had told McCain
:about it too.
:
: In American politics, every aspect of a candidate's personal life has
: become grist for the mill. Her personal life includes her family.
:
:Excellent. Let's start talking about Obama's ties to the Communist Party
:of the USA.
:

And let's look at the judgment of a man who surrounds himself with
folks who shout "God Damn America" and who married a woman who, for
the "first time in her life" is "proud of America".

--
You are
What you do
When it counts.

HK September 2nd 08 02:46 PM

This is not a test
 
Jack Linthicum wrote:
On Sep 2, 8:15 am, wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 08:05:01 -0400, hk wrote:
How do you think Palin will fare at a *real* press conference for a
couple of hours where *real* reporters ask the usual sort of tough
questions?
Or, do you think McCain will let her have such an event?

I don't think he'll be able to avoid it. So far, I don't see anything
that will disqualify her, depending on the results of the trooper
investigation. However, I can't for the life of me, see what she brings
to the ticket. And her vetting? McCain's campaign is starting to look
amateurish.


http://www.intrade.com/#



Last time I looked, the price was $18, up $15. :)


Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. September 2nd 08 02:46 PM

This is not a test
 
hk wrote:

:
justwait .... just in case you didn't notice, this thread is the
continuation of one that was cross posted at some point bringing
other people from "sci.military.naval" into the fray.

Eisboch



Well, since this long ago ceased to be a usenet group for
discussing boats, what difference does it make? I mean, are you
really that happy with all of the intellectually based posts from
JustWait, Loogy, and the rest of the no-brains-bunch?

I deleted "sci.military.naval" as an addressee in my heads-up to
justwait.
You just put it back, in your response to my post.
Looking for a bigger audience for your political spins?

Eisboch

I put it back in. This no longer is a newsgroup in which recreational
boating is much discussed, so why does it matter anyway?


I think what matters more is why you put it back in.

Eisboch



Why, to broaden the reach and breadth of discussion, of course. Don't
you Republicans get tired of breeding with each other? Half the posters
already in rec.boats aren't boaters, anyway. What difference does it
make anymore?


Harry,
I am sure you friends DD and JimH will support your cross posting in
sci.military.naval, just to make sure we have a longer than average
flame fest with all new fresh blood for you to insult. As DD likes to
say, he is here to help clean up the mess, and your cross posting will
help him in his effort

D.Duck September 2nd 08 02:58 PM

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"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 07:29:35 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
...

There's your answer. You and Reggie say the same thing. Maybe some new
blood will make this newsgroup interesting again. I'm tired of reading
about golf games, travel trailers, little kids racing motorcycles,
guitars, et cetera, the usual fare in here.

Shall we make a list of the things we are tired of reading originating
from you, including the foul mouthed, personal insults that you have
become so infamous for?

You're cute. You complain about the OT posts, yet you initiate the
majority of them, saturate the place with political cut and pastes, then
claim the NG has gone down the tubes.

I am done. I have far more interesting and important things to do than
to spend my time debating a hypocritical, self centered blowhard.

It was fun for a while, but the stink is getting to be too much.


He's being paid on his Union "consulting" contract per post - I heard
something like $2.90 per post - part of his "political" activity
required by contract.



Why, it's Brownie! Shouldn't you be busy over at "The Other Place,"
deleting posts you don't like, and promoting the posting of photos of
travel trailers, rugrats, golf clubs, and suchlike, and trying to convince
everyone that your wonderful ETEC outboard breaks through those silly Laws
of Thermodynamics and actually creates gasoline at your typically running
speeds?

Good Job, as always, Brownie.



Ya, but he has integrity.



HK September 2nd 08 03:04 PM

This is not a test
 
D.Duck wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 07:29:35 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
...

There's your answer. You and Reggie say the same thing. Maybe some new
blood will make this newsgroup interesting again. I'm tired of reading
about golf games, travel trailers, little kids racing motorcycles,
guitars, et cetera, the usual fare in here.
Shall we make a list of the things we are tired of reading originating
from you, including the foul mouthed, personal insults that you have
become so infamous for?

You're cute. You complain about the OT posts, yet you initiate the
majority of them, saturate the place with political cut and pastes, then
claim the NG has gone down the tubes.

I am done. I have far more interesting and important things to do than
to spend my time debating a hypocritical, self centered blowhard.

It was fun for a while, but the stink is getting to be too much.
He's being paid on his Union "consulting" contract per post - I heard
something like $2.90 per post - part of his "political" activity
required by contract.


Why, it's Brownie! Shouldn't you be busy over at "The Other Place,"
deleting posts you don't like, and promoting the posting of photos of
travel trailers, rugrats, golf clubs, and suchlike, and trying to convince
everyone that your wonderful ETEC outboard breaks through those silly Laws
of Thermodynamics and actually creates gasoline at your typically running
speeds?

Good Job, as always, Brownie.



Ya, but he has integrity.




I'm glad I'm wearing my mud boots...

[email protected] September 2nd 08 03:20 PM

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On Sep 2, 8:32*am, hk wrote:
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 07:29:35 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
...


There's your answer. You and Reggie say the same thing. Maybe some new
blood will make this newsgroup interesting again. I'm tired of reading
about golf games, travel trailers, little kids racing motorcycles,
guitars, et cetera, the usual fare in here.


Shall we make a list of the things we are tired of reading originating from
you, including the foul mouthed, personal insults that you have become so
infamous for?


You're cute. *You complain about the OT posts, yet you initiate the majority
of them, saturate the place with political cut and pastes, then claim the NG
has gone down the tubes.


I am done. *I have far more interesting and important things to do than to
spend my time debating a hypocritical, self centered blowhard.


It was fun for a while, but the stink is getting to be too much.


He's being paid on his Union "consulting" contract per post - I heard
something like $2.90 per post - part of his "political" activity
required by contract.


Why, it's Brownie! *Shouldn't you be busy over at "The Other Place,"
deleting posts you don't like, and promoting the posting of photos of
travel trailers, rugrats, golf clubs, and suchlike, and trying to
convince everyone that your wonderful ETEC outboard breaks through those
silly Laws of Thermodynamics and actually creates gasoline at your
typically *running speeds?

Good Job, as always, Brownie.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Harry even manages to post nothing but lies when he's asking a
question!

[email protected] September 2nd 08 03:35 PM

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On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 07:52:02 -0400, hk wrote:

Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote:

:On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:44:32 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
:
: Oh, and I note you dodged the question. Let's try again. If the issue
: is the mother and not the daughter, WHAT DID THE MOTHER DO THAT WARRANTS
: DRAGGING SOME POOR 17 YEAR OLD GIRL OUT INTO PUBLIC SCRUTINY?
:
:I'd point out, the mother is the one who did the dragging. One, she is
:the one who released the statement. Two, if she didn't know she should
:have known, that this would come out.
:

Still waiting for an answer to the question that was asked...




The mother decided to accept John McCain's invitation to be his running
mate in his quest for the presidency. In this country, that means your
entire life history and that of your family becomes grist for the mill.

Perhaps if Mama Moose had not been so adamantly opposed to sex education
in the schools, including proper instruction on birth control, Baby
Moose might have avoided getting pregnant.

My guess is that parents who oppose the teaching of proper sex education
in the schools don't provide that education at home, either. Instead,
they preach abstinence. Well, the rhythm method and abstinence probably
are the two best ways to get pregnant when you don't want to, since
neither method works well on horny teenagers.

For all we know, Baby Moose came to Mama Moose several months ago and
asked for help in getting an abortion, and was turned down. Or perhaps
Baby Moose doesn't want to marry the father of her child, but Mama Moose
is forcing her into it. I hope *that* doesn't become part of the daily
news. I wish Baby Moose well. The best thing she can do, probably, is
move away from that dysfunctional family.


The Baby Moose's boyfriend had a Myspace page that is now removed. On
it, he described himself as a M_F_ing Redneck, and stated that he
never wants kids.

I see a bright future for all of them...


Vincent September 2nd 08 04:50 PM

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wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 08:05:01 -0400, hk wrote:


How do you think Palin will fare at a *real* press conference for a
couple of hours where *real* reporters ask the usual sort of tough
questions?

Or, do you think McCain will let her have such an event?


I don't think he'll be able to avoid it. So far, I don't see anything
that will disqualify her, depending on the results of the trooper
investigation. However, I can't for the life of me, see what she brings
to the ticket. And her vetting? McCain's campaign is starting to look
amateurish.


She was clearly named on pure merit without regard to gender or any
other issues

She is not an affirmative action token She made it on her own merit

She is unquestionably the most qualified person any Republican ever saw

She is a gun nut on the cover of Vogue

to Republicans there are no other qualifications that matter

No wonder they are swooning with pleasure

Vince


La N September 2nd 08 05:55 PM

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"Vincent" wrote in message
news:lpcvk.232$Dj1.109@trnddc02...
wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 08:05:01 -0400, hk wrote:


How do you think Palin will fare at a *real* press conference for a
couple of hours where *real* reporters ask the usual sort of tough
questions?

Or, do you think McCain will let her have such an event?


I don't think he'll be able to avoid it. So far, I don't see anything
that will disqualify her, depending on the results of the trooper
investigation. However, I can't for the life of me, see what she brings
to the ticket. And her vetting? McCain's campaign is starting to look
amateurish.


She was clearly named on pure merit without regard to gender or any other
issues

She is not an affirmative action token She made it on her own merit

She is unquestionably the most qualified person any Republican ever saw

She is a gun nut on the cover of Vogue

to Republicans there are no other qualifications that matter

No wonder they are swooning with pleasure

Vince


btw, Vince ... you said you didn't believe she had a boyfriend, coz you
haven't seen him? Well, here he is:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09012008...s_127025.ht m

btw, he has since set his MySpace profile to private. With good reason, I
s'pose.




La N September 2nd 08 06:08 PM

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"La N" wrote in message
news:cmdvk.12061$%b7.1346@edtnps82...

"Vincent" wrote in message
news:lpcvk.232$Dj1.109@trnddc02...
wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 08:05:01 -0400, hk wrote:


How do you think Palin will fare at a *real* press conference for a
couple of hours where *real* reporters ask the usual sort of tough
questions?

Or, do you think McCain will let her have such an event?

I don't think he'll be able to avoid it. So far, I don't see anything
that will disqualify her, depending on the results of the trooper
investigation. However, I can't for the life of me, see what she brings
to the ticket. And her vetting? McCain's campaign is starting to look
amateurish.


She was clearly named on pure merit without regard to gender or any
other issues

She is not an affirmative action token She made it on her own merit

She is unquestionably the most qualified person any Republican ever saw

She is a gun nut on the cover of Vogue

to Republicans there are no other qualifications that matter

No wonder they are swooning with pleasure

Vince


btw, Vince ... you said you didn't believe she had a boyfriend, coz you
haven't seen him? Well, here he is:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09012008...s_127025.ht m

btw, he has since set his MySpace profile to private. With good reason, I
s'pose.




I meant to say, Vince, you didn't believe the daughter had a boyfriend, that
it was all made up.

He's a cute kid. I do hope that she thinks long and hard before getting
married .... so young, and everything.

- nilita



[email protected] September 2nd 08 06:17 PM

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On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 16:08:43 GMT, "La N"
wrote:


"La N" wrote in message
news:cmdvk.12061$%b7.1346@edtnps82...

"Vincent" wrote in message
news:lpcvk.232$Dj1.109@trnddc02...
wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 08:05:01 -0400, hk wrote:


How do you think Palin will fare at a *real* press conference for a
couple of hours where *real* reporters ask the usual sort of tough
questions?

Or, do you think McCain will let her have such an event?

I don't think he'll be able to avoid it. So far, I don't see anything
that will disqualify her, depending on the results of the trooper
investigation. However, I can't for the life of me, see what she brings
to the ticket. And her vetting? McCain's campaign is starting to look
amateurish.

She was clearly named on pure merit without regard to gender or any
other issues

She is not an affirmative action token She made it on her own merit

She is unquestionably the most qualified person any Republican ever saw

She is a gun nut on the cover of Vogue

to Republicans there are no other qualifications that matter

No wonder they are swooning with pleasure

Vince


btw, Vince ... you said you didn't believe she had a boyfriend, coz you
haven't seen him? Well, here he is:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09012008...s_127025.ht m

btw, he has since set his MySpace profile to private. With good reason, I
s'pose.




I meant to say, Vince, you didn't believe the daughter had a boyfriend, that
it was all made up.

He's a cute kid. I do hope that she thinks long and hard before getting
married .... so young, and everything.

- nilita


Before he set his MySpace page to private, it said: "I'm a M-Fing
Redneck. It also said: I never want any kids.

A real winner! The Palins are starting to make the Spears family look
high class.




HK September 2nd 08 06:51 PM

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La N wrote:
"La N" wrote in message
news:cmdvk.12061$%b7.1346@edtnps82...
"Vincent" wrote in message
news:lpcvk.232$Dj1.109@trnddc02...
wrote:
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 08:05:01 -0400, hk wrote:


How do you think Palin will fare at a *real* press conference for a
couple of hours where *real* reporters ask the usual sort of tough
questions?

Or, do you think McCain will let her have such an event?
I don't think he'll be able to avoid it. So far, I don't see anything
that will disqualify her, depending on the results of the trooper
investigation. However, I can't for the life of me, see what she brings
to the ticket. And her vetting? McCain's campaign is starting to look
amateurish.
She was clearly named on pure merit without regard to gender or any
other issues

She is not an affirmative action token She made it on her own merit

She is unquestionably the most qualified person any Republican ever saw

She is a gun nut on the cover of Vogue

to Republicans there are no other qualifications that matter

No wonder they are swooning with pleasure

Vince

btw, Vince ... you said you didn't believe she had a boyfriend, coz you
haven't seen him? Well, here he is:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09012008...s_127025.ht m

btw, he has since set his MySpace profile to private. With good reason, I
s'pose.




I meant to say, Vince, you didn't believe the daughter had a boyfriend, that
it was all made up.

He's a cute kid. I do hope that she thinks long and hard before getting
married .... so young, and everything.

- nilita




I doubt she has a choice in the matter. Mama sez: "Married! And before
the elections!"

Raymond O'Hara September 2nd 08 07:49 PM

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"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

The fact that a 17 year old is pregnant and you are making such a big deal
about it speaks volumes to your credibility.


when jamie lynn spears got pregnant you rightwingers went ballistic saying
it was more proof of a decaying depraved society.
now when its a republican's kid its okay, no big deal, happens.



John H[_3_] September 2nd 08 08:00 PM

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On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 22:56:20 -0400, hk wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..


In my heart, I believe the anti-abortionists are that way because of
psychological, rather than religious reasons, anyway. It is a patriarchal
belief, even though some women share in it. It is a method to control
women.



Sure. Right. A method to control women......

It has absolutely nothing to do with the rights of the unborn child, does
it?

Eisboch




Ahh...the Fetus Rights Movement, a division of the Fundamentalist Borg
Church, no doubt.


Now *that's* damn respectful!
--
*****Have a Spectacular Day!*****

John H

HK September 2nd 08 08:03 PM

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Raymond O'Hara wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
The fact that a 17 year old is pregnant and you are making such a big deal
about it speaks volumes to your credibility.


when jamie lynn spears got pregnant you rightwingers went ballistic saying
it was more proof of a decaying depraved society.
now when its a republican's kid its okay, no big deal, happens.



After Gerry Ford, there's very little to be impressed about with the
kids of the top of the ticket GOP'ers

Raymond O'Hara September 2nd 08 08:19 PM

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"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Fred J. McCall wrote:
hk wrote:

:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: hk wrote:
: : :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : hk wrote:
: : :
: : :Once again, the issue is the girl's mother and Republican
hypocrisy on : : :sex education, abstinence and contraception, not the
girl.
: : :
: : : : What 'hypocrisy'? Do you even know what that word means?
: : : : Hint: Her daughter is marrying the father, not that it's
any of your
: : business.
: : : :
: :Yeah, teenybopper marriages usually are successful, too.
: :
: :The girl is not the issue, the mother is. Perhaps if mama weren't so
: :dead set against the teaching of the mechanics of sex and the ways
to : :prevent pregnancy, her daughter would be progressing into
adulthood in a : :more normal fashion, eh?
: :
: : Do you SERIOUSLY think that teenagers don't know about sex,
: contraception, and pregnancy by the age of 17? We certainly did when
: I was that age, and that was a LONG time ago.
: : :
: :Remember, the *mother* is the issue. Not the daughter.
: :
: : And just what did the mother do wrong, other than disagree with
your
: politics?
: :
:snerk
:
:Gee, if the kids already know about sex, contraception and pregnancy,
:then why is mama against it being talked about by a health teacher in
:the public schools?
:

Gee, because perhaps she thinks that sort of thing is the realm of the
PARENTS to advise their children on rather than the government?

Are you always this stupid?

Oh, and I note you dodged the question. Let's try again. If the
issue is the mother and not the daughter, WHAT DID THE MOTHER DO THAT
WARRANTS DRAGGING SOME POOR 17 YEAR OLD GIRL OUT INTO PUBLIC SCRUTINY?



The problem is, I suspect, that evangelical parents do not teach their
children about sex, contraception and avoidance of disease. What they
teach is abstinence, which, along with the rhythm method, leads
to...pregnancy.

What did the mother do? Obviously, a ****-poor job of preparing her
daughter for the side effects of sexuality.


Through your life have you followed everything your parents taught you?

Teaching and acceptance by the student don't necessisarily go hand in
hand.


when jamie lynn spears was pregnant you ruight wingers acted like
civilization was falling.
now its "it happens no big deal"

if chelsea clinton had gotten knocked up the right would have gone into
hyper-drive attacking teenage promiscuity.
now its "well, gee, it can't be helped"

that's why dems favor adequate sex education.

now palin wants to make a law for others of what she can't successfully
teach at home.




Raymond O'Hara September 2nd 08 08:20 PM

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wrote in message
t...
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:44:32 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:


Oh, and I note you dodged the question. Let's try again. If the issue
is the mother and not the daughter, WHAT DID THE MOTHER DO THAT WARRANTS
DRAGGING SOME POOR 17 YEAR OLD GIRL OUT INTO PUBLIC SCRUTINY?


I'd point out, the mother is the one who did the dragging. One, she is
the one who released the statement. Two, if she didn't know she should
have known, that this would come out.


mom has let ambition and ego rule her life.
her daughter is preggers for the 2nd time because mom was too busy to notice
what the daughters are doing.



John H[_3_] September 2nd 08 08:23 PM

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On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 07:43:35 -0400, hk wrote:


The proper term is embryo or fetus. In humans, the fetal stage doesn't
even begin until nearly three months into a pregnancy. Until then, it is
just an embryo.


You're the man, Harry.
--
John H

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Self-obsessed Hypocrite]

Raymond O'Hara September 2nd 08 08:24 PM

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"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message
...
wrote:

:On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:44:32 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
:
: Oh, and I note you dodged the question. Let's try again. If the issue
: is the mother and not the daughter, WHAT DID THE MOTHER DO THAT
WARRANTS
: DRAGGING SOME POOR 17 YEAR OLD GIRL OUT INTO PUBLIC SCRUTINY?
:
:I'd point out, the mother is the one who did the dragging. One, she is
:the one who released the statement. Two, if she didn't know she should
:have known, that this would come out.
:

Still waiting for an answer to the question that was asked...

you fool mccall.

she claims "abstinance only" works and her own daughter contradicts that.

she wants to make "abstinance only" the law.

she preaches how "family values" make for a moral family and her hubby is an
alcoholic and her daughter a slut.

maybe you don't understand what hypocracy is, its trying to force others to
act in a way you won't.



John H[_3_] September 2nd 08 08:24 PM

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On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 07:05:27 -0400, hk wrote:


"republicans believe the right to life starts at conception and ends with
birth"
barney frank.




That's pretty much it.


You're the man, Harry.

--
John H

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Self-obsessed Hypocrite]

D.Duck September 2nd 08 10:35 PM

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"Raymond O'Hara" wrote in message
...

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Fred J. McCall wrote:
hk wrote:

:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: hk wrote:
: : :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : hk wrote:
: : :
: : :Once again, the issue is the girl's mother and Republican
hypocrisy on : : :sex education, abstinence and contraception, not
the girl.
: : :
: : : : What 'hypocrisy'? Do you even know what that word means?
: : : : Hint: Her daughter is marrying the father, not that it's
any of your
: : business.
: : : :
: :Yeah, teenybopper marriages usually are successful, too.
: :
: :The girl is not the issue, the mother is. Perhaps if mama weren't
so : :dead set against the teaching of the mechanics of sex and the
ways to : :prevent pregnancy, her daughter would be progressing into
adulthood in a : :more normal fashion, eh?
: :
: : Do you SERIOUSLY think that teenagers don't know about sex,
: contraception, and pregnancy by the age of 17? We certainly did
when
: I was that age, and that was a LONG time ago.
: : :
: :Remember, the *mother* is the issue. Not the daughter.
: :
: : And just what did the mother do wrong, other than disagree with
your
: politics?
: :
:snerk
:
:Gee, if the kids already know about sex, contraception and pregnancy,
:then why is mama against it being talked about by a health teacher in
:the public schools?
:

Gee, because perhaps she thinks that sort of thing is the realm of the
PARENTS to advise their children on rather than the government?

Are you always this stupid?

Oh, and I note you dodged the question. Let's try again. If the
issue is the mother and not the daughter, WHAT DID THE MOTHER DO THAT
WARRANTS DRAGGING SOME POOR 17 YEAR OLD GIRL OUT INTO PUBLIC SCRUTINY?



The problem is, I suspect, that evangelical parents do not teach their
children about sex, contraception and avoidance of disease. What they
teach is abstinence, which, along with the rhythm method, leads
to...pregnancy.

What did the mother do? Obviously, a ****-poor job of preparing her
daughter for the side effects of sexuality.


Through your life have you followed everything your parents taught you?

Teaching and acceptance by the student don't necessisarily go hand in
hand.


when jamie lynn spears was pregnant you ruight wingers acted like
civilization was falling.
now its "it happens no big deal"

if chelsea clinton had gotten knocked up the right would have gone into
hyper-drive attacking teenage promiscuity.
now its "well, gee, it can't be helped"

that's why dems favor adequate sex education.

now palin wants to make a law for others of what she can't successfully
teach at home.


My comment applies equally to both *sides*.



Raymond O'Hara September 3rd 08 01:39 AM

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"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message
...
hk wrote:
.
:

Yes, and nobody but children of such parents ever gets pregnant.

What a load of codswollops!

You may not know what "hypocrisy" means, but you do a great job of
demonstrating it.


the republicans have made getting into other peoples business their
business for quite a while now,
now they are privacy advocates? talk about hypocracy



DK September 3rd 08 02:25 AM

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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...

There's your answer. You and Reggie say the same thing. Maybe some new
blood will make this newsgroup interesting again. I'm tired of reading
about golf games, travel trailers, little kids racing motorcycles,
guitars, et cetera, the usual fare in here.



Shall we make a list of the things we are tired of reading originating from
you, including the foul mouthed, personal insults that you have become so
infamous for?

You're cute. You complain about the OT posts, yet you initiate the majority
of them, saturate the place with political cut and pastes, then claim the NG
has gone down the tubes.

I am done. I have far more interesting and important things to do than to
spend my time debating a hypocritical, self centered blowhard.

It was fun for a while, but the stink is getting to be too much.

Eisboch



WAFA lost yet another friend.


DK September 3rd 08 02:26 AM

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Fred J. McCall wrote:
hk wrote:
:
:You could always post and then try to sustain a thread about boats, hey?
:

And you could always keep your **** over in rec.boats.


I knew that would happen eventually.

John H[_3_] September 3rd 08 03:04 AM

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http://tinyurl.com/o42at

John H[_3_] September 3rd 08 03:04 AM

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http://tinyurl.com/o42at


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