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Raymond O'Hara September 2nd 08 02:17 AM

This is not a test
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
So the kid's pregnant. That shouldn't be a bother for anyone,
especially the dems. There are programs for her, plenty of them,
including a WIC card which should be readily available to take care of
all her (and ehr babies) basic needs. No need to condemn her, after
all, when a previous POTUS can lie about getting a suck-job from an
intern and be praised for it, then who cares if the under aged Palin
girl is going to have a baby?

Seems that the only thing really unapealing to the dems is that the
daughter is going to keep the baby, instead of having it's brains
sucked out.



another welcomed burden on society *tisk*

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


the issue is the republicans won't admit this is how kids act.
"abstinance education" certainly didn't work on the daughter, the mother
keeps telling us it should be the exclusive law of the land.
maybe if the kid had some education on the subject beyond watching MTV and
shows like the OC she might not be a two time mother by age 17.
this girl isn't some trailertrash slut.
shes from a staunchly christian upper middle class family.
what are the long term prospects for two 17 year olds who are married with a
kid?
..
you guys fight abortion , but then you also fight against anything that will
prevent the need for abortions
kids are going to screw, are we just supposed to hope the girl keeps getting
lucky?.



Raymond O'Hara September 2nd 08 02:24 AM

This is not a test
 

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Sep 1, 11:28 am, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:59:35 -0400, hk wrote:


* BTW, there is a very interesting and juicy rumor floating about
regarding Ms. Palin and that pregnancy. It's too salacious for even me
to repeat it here or discuss it before the story breaks.


It's already broken, and it shouldn't have. Even if true, it's the
family's business, no one else's.


However, there are some tenuous ties to the Alaskan Independence Party
that she should clarify. I'm not sure I'd want a secessionist as
President.


Well, I wasn't going to be the one to spill the alleged details. If it
is true, it is an immediate disqualifier for the woman, not because of
the act, but because of the basic dishonesty it exhibits.

I'd prefer it *not* to be true.


http://brokencontrollers.com/forums/...ted-t24231.php


actually the story didn't start friday. it just became national friday
because the mother was picked to be VP on friday.
its been kicking around alaska for a few months.
that spin article you posted is useless its like those old photos of her
being pregnant with her youngest daughter, attempts at damage control.



[email protected] September 2nd 08 03:00 AM

This is not a test
 
On Sep 1, 9:11*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
hk wrote:
:Fred J. McCall wrote:

: "La N" wrote:
: :: :"Vincent" wrote in message

: :news:hRZuk.263$1a2.170@trnddc04...
: : Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : hk wrote:
: : :
: : :Once again, the issue is the girl's mother and Republican hypocrisy on
: : :sex education, abstinence and contraception, not the girl.
: : :
: :
: : What 'hypocrisy'? *Do you even know what that word means?
: :
: : Hint: *Her daughter is marrying the father, not that it's any of your
: : business.
: :
: :
: : So she says
: :
: : haven't seen the boy myself
: :
: :
:
: Typical Vinnie. *Everyone to the right of Lenin is automatically a
: Nazi liar.
:
: :
: :I hope she is not feeling pressured into marrying somebody, just because it
: :will help her mother politically. *17 is awfully young.
: :
:
: I suspect it's more likely that she's in love with the guy, wants to
: keep the baby, and thinks two parents are better than one.
:
: Why is it that you lot seem incapable of assuming that anyone whose
: politics you disagree with might be doing things for GOOD reasons?
:
:
:After eight years of Bush and Cheney? I know better. Nothing those two
:thugs have done has been for good reasons.
:

I rest my case.

Your inability to actually discuss ISSUES is noted. *All you can do is
slime and hate. *Your sort may be why the Democrats could lose an
election that should be an easy win for them.

--
"You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of
*your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Mark Twain


You must be new here. Wafa aka Krause has been spewing his hate and
harrytales here for over ten years. He is the picture of progressive
liberalism in all it's filth and self indulgence..

Vincent September 2nd 08 03:15 AM

This is not a test
 
Fred J. McCall wrote:
hk wrote:

:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: "La N" wrote:
: :
: :"Vincent" wrote in message
: :news:hRZuk.263$1a2.170@trnddc04...
: : Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : hk wrote:
: : :
: : :Once again, the issue is the girl's mother and Republican hypocrisy on
: : :sex education, abstinence and contraception, not the girl.
: : :
: :
: : What 'hypocrisy'? Do you even know what that word means?
: :
: : Hint: Her daughter is marrying the father, not that it's any of your
: : business.
: :
: :
: : So she says
: :
: : haven't seen the boy myself
: :
: :
:
: Typical Vinnie. Everyone to the right of Lenin is automatically a
: Nazi liar.
:
: :
: :I hope she is not feeling pressured into marrying somebody, just because it
: :will help her mother politically. 17 is awfully young.
: :
:
: I suspect it's more likely that she's in love with the guy, wants to
: keep the baby, and thinks two parents are better than one.
:
: Why is it that you lot seem incapable of assuming that anyone whose
: politics you disagree with might be doing things for GOOD reasons?
:
:
:After eight years of Bush and Cheney? I know better. Nothing those two
:thugs have done has been for good reasons.
:

I rest my case.

Your inability to actually discuss ISSUES is noted. All you can do is
slime and hate. Your sort may be why the Democrats could lose an
election that should be an easy win for them.




the post speaks for itself
you are the abusive one "nazi liar" etc


Vince

Fred J. McCall[_3_] September 2nd 08 03:21 AM

This is not a test
 
wrote:

:On Sep 1, 9:11*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
: hk wrote:
: :Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
: : "La N" wrote:
: : :: :"Vincent" wrote in message
:
: : :news:hRZuk.263$1a2.170@trnddc04...
: : : Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : : hk wrote:
: : : :
: : : :Once again, the issue is the girl's mother and Republican hypocrisy on
: : : :sex education, abstinence and contraception, not the girl.
: : : :
: : :
: : : What 'hypocrisy'? *Do you even know what that word means?
: : :
: : : Hint: *Her daughter is marrying the father, not that it's any of your
: : : business.
: : :
: : :
: : : So she says
: : :
: : : haven't seen the boy myself
: : :
: : :
: :
: : Typical Vinnie. *Everyone to the right of Lenin is automatically a
: : Nazi liar.
: :
: : :
: : :I hope she is not feeling pressured into marrying somebody, just because it
: : :will help her mother politically. *17 is awfully young.
: : :
: :
: : I suspect it's more likely that she's in love with the guy, wants to
: : keep the baby, and thinks two parents are better than one.
: :
: : Why is it that you lot seem incapable of assuming that anyone whose
: : politics you disagree with might be doing things for GOOD reasons?
: :
: :
: :After eight years of Bush and Cheney? I know better. Nothing those two
: :thugs have done has been for good reasons.
: :
:
: I rest my case.
:
: Your inability to actually discuss ISSUES is noted. *All you can do is
: slime and hate. *Your sort may be why the Democrats could lose an
: election that should be an easy win for them.
:
:
:You must be new here. Wafa aka Krause has been spewing his hate and
:harrytales here for over ten years. He is the picture of progressive
:liberalism in all it's filth and self indulgence..
:

That's not precisely what I'd call an issue-based critique, either.

--
"It's always different. It's always complex. But at some point,
somebody has to draw the line. And that somebody is always me....
I am the law."
-- Buffy, The Vampire Slayer

[email protected] September 2nd 08 03:27 AM

This is not a test
 
On Sep 1, 10:21*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote:

:On Sep 1, 9:11*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:: hk wrote:

: :Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
: : "La N" wrote:
: : :: :"Vincent" wrote in message
:
: : :news:hRZuk.263$1a2.170@trnddc04...
: : : Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : : hk wrote:
: : : :
: : : :Once again, the issue is the girl's mother and Republican hypocrisy on
: : : :sex education, abstinence and contraception, not the girl.
: : : :
: : :
: : : What 'hypocrisy'? *Do you even know what that word means?
: : :
: : : Hint: *Her daughter is marrying the father, not that it's any of your
: : : business.
: : :
: : :
: : : So she says
: : :
: : : haven't seen the boy myself
: : :
: : :
: :
: : Typical Vinnie. *Everyone to the right of Lenin is automatically a
: : Nazi liar.
: :
: : :
: : :I hope she is not feeling pressured into marrying somebody, just because it
: : :will help her mother politically. *17 is awfully young.
: : :
: :
: : I suspect it's more likely that she's in love with the guy, wants to
: : keep the baby, and thinks two parents are better than one.
: :
: : Why is it that you lot seem incapable of assuming that anyone whose
: : politics you disagree with might be doing things for GOOD reasons?
: :
: :
: :After eight years of Bush and Cheney? I know better. Nothing those two
: :thugs have done has been for good reasons.
: :
:
: I rest my case.
:
: Your inability to actually discuss ISSUES is noted. *All you can do is
: slime and hate. *Your sort may be why the Democrats could lose an
: election that should be an easy win for them.
:
:
:You must be new here. Wafa aka Krause has been spewing his hate and
:harrytales here for over ten years. He is the picture of progressive
:liberalism in all it's filth and self indulgence..
:

That's not precisely what I'd call an issue-based critique, either.

--
"It's always different. *It's always complex. *But at some point,
*somebody has to draw the line. *And that somebody is always me....
*I am the law."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Buffy, The Vampire Slayer


I have a HS education and work my ass off with my hands and back.. I
don't know wht an "issue based critique" is, but I know the truth. The
truth is, wafa is not capable of honest debate, on any subject. He is
an ideologue with a very good imagination.

Fred J. McCall[_3_] September 2nd 08 03:34 AM

This is not a test
 
wrote:

:On Sep 1, 10:21*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
: wrote:
:
: :On Sep 1, 9:11*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:: hk wrote:
:
: : :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : :
: : : Why is it that you lot seem incapable of assuming that anyone whose
: : : politics you disagree with might be doing things for GOOD reasons?
: : :
: : :
: : :After eight years of Bush and Cheney? I know better. Nothing those two
: : :thugs have done has been for good reasons.
: : :
: :
: : I rest my case.
: :
: : Your inability to actually discuss ISSUES is noted. *All you can do is
: : slime and hate. *Your sort may be why the Democrats could lose an
: : election that should be an easy win for them.
: :
: :
: :You must be new here. Wafa aka Krause has been spewing his hate and
: :harrytales here for over ten years. He is the picture of progressive
: :liberalism in all it's filth and self indulgence..
: :
:
: That's not precisely what I'd call an issue-based critique, either.
:
:
:I have a HS education and work my ass off with my hands and back.. I
:don't know wht an "issue based critique" is, but I know the truth.
:

When your reasoning runs to characterizing a political position you
disagree with as "filth and self indulgence", you're more likely to
convince thinking people that you're the problem rather than that they
are.

What do they teach in HS these days? Nothing about little details
like arguments should be based on FACTS, not hyperbolic opinions?

:
:The
:truth is, wafa is not capable of honest debate, on any subject. He is
:an ideologue with a very good imagination.
:

And you want to outdo him?

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn

[email protected] September 2nd 08 03:52 AM

This is not a test
 
On Sep 1, 10:34*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote:

:On Sep 1, 10:21*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:: wrote:

:
: :On Sep 1, 9:11*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:: hk wrote:
:
: : :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : :
: : : Why is it that you lot seem incapable of assuming that anyone whose
: : : politics you disagree with might be doing things for GOOD reasons?
: : :
: : :
: : :After eight years of Bush and Cheney? I know better. Nothing those two
: : :thugs have done has been for good reasons.
: : :
: :
: : I rest my case.
: :
: : Your inability to actually discuss ISSUES is noted. *All you can do is
: : slime and hate. *Your sort may be why the Democrats could lose an
: : election that should be an easy win for them.
: :
: :
: :You must be new here. Wafa aka Krause has been spewing his hate and
: :harrytales here for over ten years. He is the picture of progressive
: :liberalism in all it's filth and self indulgence..
: :
:
: That's not precisely what I'd call an issue-based critique, either.
:
:
:I have a HS education and work my ass off with my hands and back.. I
:don't know wht an "issue based critique" is, but I know the truth.
:

When your reasoning runs to characterizing a political position you
disagree with as "filth and self indulgence", you're more likely to
convince thinking people that you're the problem rather than that they
are.

What do they teach in HS these days? *Nothing about little details
like arguments should be based on FACTS, not hyperbolic opinions?

:
:The
:truth is, wafa is not capable of honest debate, on any subject. He is
:an ideologue with a very good imagination.
:

And you want to outdo him?

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
*territory."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --G. Behn


Stick around for a while, I will leave you to your own interpretation..

[email protected] September 2nd 08 03:56 AM

This is not a test
 
On Sep 1, 10:34*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote:

:On Sep 1, 10:21*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:: wrote:

:
: :On Sep 1, 9:11*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:: hk wrote:
:
: : :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : :
: : : Why is it that you lot seem incapable of assuming that anyone whose
: : : politics you disagree with might be doing things for GOOD reasons?
: : :
: : :
: : :After eight years of Bush and Cheney? I know better. Nothing those two
: : :thugs have done has been for good reasons.
: : :
: :
: : I rest my case.
: :
: : Your inability to actually discuss ISSUES is noted. *All you can do is
: : slime and hate. *Your sort may be why the Democrats could lose an
: : election that should be an easy win for them.
: :
: :
: :You must be new here. Wafa aka Krause has been spewing his hate and
: :harrytales here for over ten years. He is the picture of progressive
: :liberalism in all it's filth and self indulgence..
: :
:
: That's not precisely what I'd call an issue-based critique, either.
:
:
:I have a HS education and work my ass off with my hands and back.. I
:don't know wht an "issue based critique" is, but I know the truth.
:

When your reasoning runs to characterizing a political position you
disagree with as "filth and self indulgence", you're more likely to
convince thinking people that you're the problem rather than that they
are.

What do they teach in HS these days? *Nothing about little details
like arguments should be based on FACTS, not hyperbolic opinions?

:
:The
:truth is, wafa is not capable of honest debate, on any subject. He is
:an ideologue with a very good imagination.
:

And you want to outdo him?

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
*territory."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * --G. Behn


But when he starts accusing you of molesting your own child, or says
"it's great that one of your kids cast's are off, now she can still
give her boyfriend a handjob".. you will start to know what I mean..

Raymond O'Hara September 2nd 08 04:25 AM

This is not a test
 

"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message
...
hk wrote:

:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: hk wrote:
: :
: :Ah, yes...abstinence education, about as realistic as, say,
creationism.
: :
:
: So your claim is that virgin births are common?
:
: Who knew?
:
:
:Maybe in your family, not in mine.
:

So it would seem that abstinence will prevent pregnancy after all. So
much for your silly comparison to creationism, above.

--

who abstains?
certainly not the daughter of the woman who wants to make it the law of the
land for everybody else's family.
kids abstain from sex the way a dog abstains from eating a steak placed its
its bowl.
that's the point.



Fred J. McCall[_3_] September 2nd 08 04:26 AM

This is not a test
 
wrote:

:On Sep 1, 10:34*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
: wrote:
:
: :On Sep 1, 10:21*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:: wrote:
:
: :
: : :On Sep 1, 9:11*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:: hk wrote:
: :
: : : :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : : :
: : : : Why is it that you lot seem incapable of assuming that anyone whose
: : : : politics you disagree with might be doing things for GOOD reasons?
: : : :
: : : :
: : : :After eight years of Bush and Cheney? I know better. Nothing those two
: : : :thugs have done has been for good reasons.
: : : :
: : :
: : : I rest my case.
: : :
: : : Your inability to actually discuss ISSUES is noted. *All you can do is
: : : slime and hate. *Your sort may be why the Democrats could lose an
: : : election that should be an easy win for them.
: : :
: : :
: : :You must be new here. Wafa aka Krause has been spewing his hate and
: : :harrytales here for over ten years. He is the picture of progressive
: : :liberalism in all it's filth and self indulgence..
: : :
: :
: : That's not precisely what I'd call an issue-based critique, either.
: :
: :
: :I have a HS education and work my ass off with my hands and back.. I
: :don't know wht an "issue based critique" is, but I know the truth.
: :
:
: When your reasoning runs to characterizing a political position you
: disagree with as "filth and self indulgence", you're more likely to
: convince thinking people that you're the problem rather than that they
: are.
:
: What do they teach in HS these days? *Nothing about little details
: like arguments should be based on FACTS, not hyperbolic opinions?
:
: :
: :The
: :truth is, wafa is not capable of honest debate, on any subject. He is
: :an ideologue with a very good imagination.
: :
:
: And you want to outdo him?
:
:
:Stick around for a while, I will leave you to your own interpretation..
:

If you didn't crosspost this stuff I wouldn't see it.

There's one...

--
"So many women. So little charm."
-- Donna, to Josh; The West Wing

Fred J. McCall[_3_] September 2nd 08 04:28 AM

This is not a test
 
wrote:

:On Sep 1, 10:34*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
: wrote:
:
: :On Sep 1, 10:21*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:: wrote:
:
: :
: : :On Sep 1, 9:11*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:: hk wrote:
: :
: : : :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : : :
: : : : Why is it that you lot seem incapable of assuming that anyone whose
: : : : politics you disagree with might be doing things for GOOD reasons?
: : : :
: : : :
: : : :After eight years of Bush and Cheney? I know better. Nothing those two
: : : :thugs have done has been for good reasons.
: : : :
: : :
: : : I rest my case.
: : :
: : : Your inability to actually discuss ISSUES is noted. *All you can do is
: : : slime and hate. *Your sort may be why the Democrats could lose an
: : : election that should be an easy win for them.
: : :
: : :
: : :You must be new here. Wafa aka Krause has been spewing his hate and
: : :harrytales here for over ten years. He is the picture of progressive
: : :liberalism in all it's filth and self indulgence..
: : :
: :
: : That's not precisely what I'd call an issue-based critique, either.
: :
: :
: :I have a HS education and work my ass off with my hands and back.. I
: :don't know wht an "issue based critique" is, but I know the truth.
: :
:
: When your reasoning runs to characterizing a political position you
: disagree with as "filth and self indulgence", you're more likely to
: convince thinking people that you're the problem rather than that they
: are.
:
: What do they teach in HS these days? *Nothing about little details
: like arguments should be based on FACTS, not hyperbolic opinions?
:
: :
: :The
: :truth is, wafa is not capable of honest debate, on any subject. He is
: :an ideologue with a very good imagination.
: :
:
: And you want to outdo him?
:
:
:But when he starts accusing you of molesting your own child, or says
:"it's great that one of your kids cast's are off, now she can still
:give her boyfriend a handjob".. you will start to know what I mean..
:

Even in all that there is nothing to justify characterizing a large
group of people as advocating "filth and self indulgence". So, are
you different than he is or not?

There's two...

--
"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the
soul with evil."
-- Socrates

Eisboch September 2nd 08 04:45 AM

This is not a test
 

wrote in message
...

On Sep 1, 10:34 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote:

: :
: :You must be new here. Wafa aka Krause has been spewing his hate and
: :harrytales here for over ten years. He is the picture of progressive
: :liberalism in all it's filth and self indulgence..
: :
:
: That's not precisely what I'd call an issue-based critique, either.
:
:



justwait .... just in case you didn't notice, this thread is the
continuation of one that was cross posted at some point bringing other
people from "sci.military.naval" into the fray.

Eisboch




HK September 2nd 08 04:50 AM

This is not a test
 
Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
...

On Sep 1, 10:34 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote:

: :
: :You must be new here. Wafa aka Krause has been spewing his hate and
: :harrytales here for over ten years. He is the picture of progressive
: :liberalism in all it's filth and self indulgence..
: :
:
: That's not precisely what I'd call an issue-based critique, either.
:
:



justwait .... just in case you didn't notice, this thread is the
continuation of one that was cross posted at some point bringing other
people from "sci.military.naval" into the fray.

Eisboch





Well, since this long ago ceased to be a usenet group for discussing
boats, what difference does it make? I mean, are you really that happy
with all of the intellectually based posts from JustWait, Loogy, and the
rest of the no-brains-bunch?


Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. September 2nd 08 04:53 AM

This is not a test
 
hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
...

On Sep 1, 10:34 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote:

: :
: :You must be new here. Wafa aka Krause has been spewing his hate and
: :harrytales here for over ten years. He is the picture of progressive
: :liberalism in all it's filth and self indulgence..
: :
:
: That's not precisely what I'd call an issue-based critique, either.
:
:



justwait .... just in case you didn't notice, this thread is the
continuation of one that was cross posted at some point bringing other
people from "sci.military.naval" into the fray.

Eisboch





Well, since this long ago ceased to be a usenet group for discussing
boats, what difference does it make? I mean, are you really that happy
with all of the intellectually based posts from JustWait, Loogy, and the
rest of the no-brains-bunch?


I noticed you added sci.military.naval back into the thread. Are you
concerned that most of us understand you political trolls, and you need
to add a new group into the fray.

Eisboch September 2nd 08 05:06 AM

This is not a test
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
...

On Sep 1, 10:34 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote:

: :
: :You must be new here. Wafa aka Krause has been spewing his hate and
: :harrytales here for over ten years. He is the picture of progressive
: :liberalism in all it's filth and self indulgence..
: :
:
: That's not precisely what I'd call an issue-based critique, either.
:
:



justwait .... just in case you didn't notice, this thread is the
continuation of one that was cross posted at some point bringing other
people from "sci.military.naval" into the fray.

Eisboch





Well, since this long ago ceased to be a usenet group for discussing
boats, what difference does it make? I mean, are you really that happy
with all of the intellectually based posts from JustWait, Loogy, and the
rest of the no-brains-bunch?



I deleted "sci.military.naval" as an addressee in my heads-up to justwait.
You just put it back, in your response to my post.
Looking for a bigger audience for your political spins?

Eisboch



Eisboch September 2nd 08 05:07 AM

This is not a test
 

"Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote in message
. ..
hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
...

On Sep 1, 10:34 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote:

: :
: :You must be new here. Wafa aka Krause has been spewing his hate and
: :harrytales here for over ten years. He is the picture of
progressive
: :liberalism in all it's filth and self indulgence..
: :
:
: That's not precisely what I'd call an issue-based critique, either.
:
:


justwait .... just in case you didn't notice, this thread is the
continuation of one that was cross posted at some point bringing other
people from "sci.military.naval" into the fray.

Eisboch





Well, since this long ago ceased to be a usenet group for discussing
boats, what difference does it make? I mean, are you really that happy
with all of the intellectually based posts from JustWait, Loogy, and the
rest of the no-brains-bunch?


I noticed you added sci.military.naval back into the thread. Are you
concerned that most of us understand you political trolls, and you need to
add a new group into the fray.



Heh .... I just said the same thing ......

Eisboch



Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. September 2nd 08 06:03 AM

This is not a test
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote in message
. ..
hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
...

On Sep 1, 10:34 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote:

: :
: :You must be new here. Wafa aka Krause has been spewing his hate and
: :harrytales here for over ten years. He is the picture of
progressive
: :liberalism in all it's filth and self indulgence..
: :
:
: That's not precisely what I'd call an issue-based critique, either.
:
:

justwait .... just in case you didn't notice, this thread is the
continuation of one that was cross posted at some point bringing other
people from "sci.military.naval" into the fray.

Eisboch




Well, since this long ago ceased to be a usenet group for discussing
boats, what difference does it make? I mean, are you really that happy
with all of the intellectually based posts from JustWait, Loogy, and the
rest of the no-brains-bunch?

I noticed you added sci.military.naval back into the thread. Are you
concerned that most of us understand you political trolls, and you need to
add a new group into the fray.



Heh .... I just said the same thing ......

Eisboch



Is the correct expression GMTA or FMBA?


HK September 2nd 08 11:55 AM

This is not a test
 
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
...

On Sep 1, 10:34 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote:

: :
: :You must be new here. Wafa aka Krause has been spewing his hate and
: :harrytales here for over ten years. He is the picture of progressive
: :liberalism in all it's filth and self indulgence..
: :
:
: That's not precisely what I'd call an issue-based critique, either.
:
:

justwait .... just in case you didn't notice, this thread is the
continuation of one that was cross posted at some point bringing other
people from "sci.military.naval" into the fray.

Eisboch




Well, since this long ago ceased to be a usenet group for discussing
boats, what difference does it make? I mean, are you really that happy
with all of the intellectually based posts from JustWait, Loogy, and the
rest of the no-brains-bunch?



I deleted "sci.military.naval" as an addressee in my heads-up to justwait.
You just put it back, in your response to my post.
Looking for a bigger audience for your political spins?

Eisboch




I put it back in. This no longer is a newsgroup in which recreational
boating is much discussed, so why does it matter anyway?

HK September 2nd 08 11:56 AM

This is not a test
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. " wrote in message
. ..
hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
...

On Sep 1, 10:34 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote:

: :
: :You must be new here. Wafa aka Krause has been spewing his hate and
: :harrytales here for over ten years. He is the picture of
progressive
: :liberalism in all it's filth and self indulgence..
: :
:
: That's not precisely what I'd call an issue-based critique, either.
:
:

justwait .... just in case you didn't notice, this thread is the
continuation of one that was cross posted at some point bringing other
people from "sci.military.naval" into the fray.

Eisboch




Well, since this long ago ceased to be a usenet group for discussing
boats, what difference does it make? I mean, are you really that happy
with all of the intellectually based posts from JustWait, Loogy, and the
rest of the no-brains-bunch?

I noticed you added sci.military.naval back into the thread. Are you
concerned that most of us understand you political trolls, and you need to
add a new group into the fray.



Heh .... I just said the same thing ......

Eisboch




There's your answer. You and Reggie say the same thing. Maybe some new
blood will make this newsgroup interesting again. I'm tired of reading
about golf games, travel trailers, little kids racing motorcycles,
guitars, et cetera, the usual fare in here.

[email protected] September 2nd 08 11:59 AM

This is not a test
 
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:44:32 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:


Oh, and I note you dodged the question. Let's try again. If the issue
is the mother and not the daughter, WHAT DID THE MOTHER DO THAT WARRANTS
DRAGGING SOME POOR 17 YEAR OLD GIRL OUT INTO PUBLIC SCRUTINY?


I'd point out, the mother is the one who did the dragging. One, she is
the one who released the statement. Two, if she didn't know she should
have known, that this would come out.

[email protected] September 2nd 08 12:12 PM

This is not a test
 
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:40:52 -0400, BAR wrote:


However, there are some tenuous ties to the Alaskan Independence Party
that she should clarify. I'm not sure I'd want a secessionist as
President.


Should Obama clear up his supposed ties to the Communist Party of the
USA? He has ties to members of that organization.


If he was a member of the Communist Party, I would surely want
clarification. As it is, his only "ties" are that he sat on a committee
with a communist. As it turns out, Palin's ties to the AIP are not
tenuous, she was a member. That doesn't disqualify her, but some
clarification would be helpful. As I have said, I'm not sure I'd want a
secessionist as President.

BAR[_2_] September 2nd 08 12:13 PM

This is not a test
 
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:44:32 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:


Oh, and I note you dodged the question. Let's try again. If the issue
is the mother and not the daughter, WHAT DID THE MOTHER DO THAT WARRANTS
DRAGGING SOME POOR 17 YEAR OLD GIRL OUT INTO PUBLIC SCRUTINY?


I'd point out, the mother is the one who did the dragging. One, she is
the one who released the statement. Two, if she didn't know she should
have known, that this would come out.


According to news sources it was well known in their home town, already.
Just making sure the lefty blogs get the story straight.

BAR[_2_] September 2nd 08 12:20 PM

This is not a test
 
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:40:52 -0400, BAR wrote:


However, there are some tenuous ties to the Alaskan Independence Party
that she should clarify. I'm not sure I'd want a secessionist as
President.

Should Obama clear up his supposed ties to the Communist Party of the
USA? He has ties to members of that organization.


If he was a member of the Communist Party, I would surely want
clarification. As it is, his only "ties" are that he sat on a committee
with a communist. As it turns out, Palin's ties to the AIP are not
tenuous, she was a member. That doesn't disqualify her, but some
clarification would be helpful. As I have said, I'm not sure I'd want a
secessionist as President.


What about the entire Republic...I mean State of Texax?

BAR[_2_] September 2nd 08 12:21 PM

This is not a test
 
hk wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:40:52 -0400, BAR wrote:


However, there are some tenuous ties to the Alaskan Independence Party
that she should clarify. I'm not sure I'd want a secessionist as
President.
Should Obama clear up his supposed ties to the Communist Party of the
USA? He has ties to members of that organization.


If he was a member of the Communist Party, I would surely want
clarification. As it is, his only "ties" are that he sat on a
committee with a communist. As it turns out, Palin's ties to the AIP
are not tenuous, she was a member. That doesn't disqualify her, but
some clarification would be helpful. As I have said, I'm not sure I'd
want a secessionist as President.



There you go again, confusing poor little BAR, known to his friend as
Bertbrain.

You haven't figured out yet that no matter the misdeeds of the
Republicans, there are posters here like BAR, Herring, Reggie, et al,
who will post a rationalization? :)


I thought I was in the Bozo Bin?

HK September 2nd 08 12:22 PM

This is not a test
 
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:40:52 -0400, BAR wrote:


However, there are some tenuous ties to the Alaskan Independence Party
that she should clarify. I'm not sure I'd want a secessionist as
President.

Should Obama clear up his supposed ties to the Communist Party of the
USA? He has ties to members of that organization.


If he was a member of the Communist Party, I would surely want
clarification. As it is, his only "ties" are that he sat on a committee
with a communist. As it turns out, Palin's ties to the AIP are not
tenuous, she was a member. That doesn't disqualify her, but some
clarification would be helpful. As I have said, I'm not sure I'd want a
secessionist as President.



There you go again, confusing poor little BAR, known to his friend as
Bertbrain.

You haven't figured out yet that no matter the misdeeds of the
Republicans, there are posters here like BAR, Herring, Reggie, et al,
who will post a rationalization? :)

Eisboch September 2nd 08 12:22 PM

This is not a test
 

"hk" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
...

On Sep 1, 10:34 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote:

: :
: :You must be new here. Wafa aka Krause has been spewing his hate
and
: :harrytales here for over ten years. He is the picture of
progressive
: :liberalism in all it's filth and self indulgence..
: :
:
: That's not precisely what I'd call an issue-based critique, either.
:
:

justwait .... just in case you didn't notice, this thread is the
continuation of one that was cross posted at some point bringing other
people from "sci.military.naval" into the fray.

Eisboch




Well, since this long ago ceased to be a usenet group for discussing
boats, what difference does it make? I mean, are you really that happy
with all of the intellectually based posts from JustWait, Loogy, and the
rest of the no-brains-bunch?



I deleted "sci.military.naval" as an addressee in my heads-up to
justwait.
You just put it back, in your response to my post.
Looking for a bigger audience for your political spins?

Eisboch



I put it back in. This no longer is a newsgroup in which recreational
boating is much discussed, so why does it matter anyway?


I think what matters more is why you put it back in.

Eisboch



HK September 2nd 08 12:29 PM

This is not a test
 
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message
...

On Sep 1, 10:34 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote:

: :
: :You must be new here. Wafa aka Krause has been spewing his hate
and
: :harrytales here for over ten years. He is the picture of
progressive
: :liberalism in all it's filth and self indulgence..
: :
:
: That's not precisely what I'd call an issue-based critique, either.
:
:
justwait .... just in case you didn't notice, this thread is the
continuation of one that was cross posted at some point bringing other
people from "sci.military.naval" into the fray.

Eisboch



Well, since this long ago ceased to be a usenet group for discussing
boats, what difference does it make? I mean, are you really that happy
with all of the intellectually based posts from JustWait, Loogy, and the
rest of the no-brains-bunch?

I deleted "sci.military.naval" as an addressee in my heads-up to
justwait.
You just put it back, in your response to my post.
Looking for a bigger audience for your political spins?

Eisboch


I put it back in. This no longer is a newsgroup in which recreational
boating is much discussed, so why does it matter anyway?


I think what matters more is why you put it back in.

Eisboch




Why, to broaden the reach and breadth of discussion, of course. Don't
you Republicans get tired of breeding with each other? Half the posters
already in rec.boats aren't boaters, anyway. What difference does it
make anymore?

This group won't even sustain a boating-only discussion board that was
offered up. Why worry about the "purity" of rec.boats? When's the last
time *you* initiated and sustained an interesting boating discussion
here or in the other joint? How about your buddy Tom, when he isn't busy
deleting posts?

Face the reality head-on...rec.boats no longer is a boating discussion
group, not when you have idiots like JustWaitScotty posting "He is the
picture of progressive liberalism in all it's filth and self indulgence..."




Eisboch September 2nd 08 12:29 PM

This is not a test
 

"hk" wrote in message
...


There's your answer. You and Reggie say the same thing. Maybe some new
blood will make this newsgroup interesting again. I'm tired of reading
about golf games, travel trailers, little kids racing motorcycles,
guitars, et cetera, the usual fare in here.



Shall we make a list of the things we are tired of reading originating from
you, including the foul mouthed, personal insults that you have become so
infamous for?

You're cute. You complain about the OT posts, yet you initiate the majority
of them, saturate the place with political cut and pastes, then claim the NG
has gone down the tubes.

I am done. I have far more interesting and important things to do than to
spend my time debating a hypocritical, self centered blowhard.

It was fun for a while, but the stink is getting to be too much.

Eisboch



Fred J. McCall[_3_] September 2nd 08 12:30 PM

This is not a test
 
wrote:

:On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:44:32 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
:
: Oh, and I note you dodged the question. Let's try again. If the issue
: is the mother and not the daughter, WHAT DID THE MOTHER DO THAT WARRANTS
: DRAGGING SOME POOR 17 YEAR OLD GIRL OUT INTO PUBLIC SCRUTINY?
:
:I'd point out, the mother is the one who did the dragging. One, she is
:the one who released the statement. Two, if she didn't know she should
:have known, that this would come out.
:

Still waiting for an answer to the question that was asked...

--
You are
What you do
When it counts.

HK September 2nd 08 12:36 PM

This is not a test
 
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...

There's your answer. You and Reggie say the same thing. Maybe some new
blood will make this newsgroup interesting again. I'm tired of reading
about golf games, travel trailers, little kids racing motorcycles,
guitars, et cetera, the usual fare in here.



Shall we make a list of the things we are tired of reading originating from
you, including the foul mouthed, personal insults that you have become so
infamous for?

You're cute. You complain about the OT posts, yet you initiate the majority
of them, saturate the place with political cut and pastes, then claim the NG
has gone down the tubes.

I am done. I have far more interesting and important things to do than to
spend my time debating a hypocritical, self centered blowhard.

It was fun for a while, but the stink is getting to be too much.

Eisboch



You could always post and then try to sustain a thread about boats, hey?

As far as OT posts go, I told you, I have no interest in golf, travel
trailers, little kids racing motorcycles, et cetera.

I don't have to claim this newsgroup as a boating newsgroup has gone
down the tubes. The evidence, as it were, is self-evident. So...why
worry about it anymore? Reggie and gang wanted to turn this into a
pigpen...they simply succeeded.

[email protected] September 2nd 08 12:38 PM

This is not a test
 
On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:30:34 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:

wrote:

:On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:44:32 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote: :
:
: Oh, and I note you dodged the question. Let's try again. If the
issue : is the mother and not the daughter, WHAT DID THE MOTHER DO THAT
WARRANTS : DRAGGING SOME POOR 17 YEAR OLD GIRL OUT INTO PUBLIC
SCRUTINY? :
:I'd point out, the mother is the one who did the dragging. One, she is
:the one who released the statement. Two, if she didn't know she should
:have known, that this would come out. :

Still waiting for an answer to the question that was asked...


Ask Sarah Palin. She's the one who dragged her daughter into public
scrutiny.

Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P. Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. September 2nd 08 12:47 PM

This is not a test
 
hk wrote:



You could always post and then try to sustain a thread about boats, hey?

As far as OT posts go, I told you, I have no interest in golf, travel
trailers, little kids racing motorcycles, et cetera.


You prefer really interesting threads about daily updates on your UPS
shipments, some really crappy photos of your cat sleeping on your
printer, discussing the installation of your septic tank..... The list
of your OT posts are endless. If you were honest, you would say, if the
discussion is not about a topic where i can pretend to be the expert, I
am not interested in allowing that discussion in rec.boats.


I don't have to claim this newsgroup as a boating newsgroup has gone
down the tubes. The evidence, as it were, is self-evident. So...why
worry about it anymore? Reggie and gang wanted to turn this into a
pigpen...they simply succeeded.


You have said for years, that the only reason you came to rec.boats was
to inflame the Republicans; Pigs and visit with a few old friends.
Since you don't have any friends in rec.boats why don't you visit those
groups that can appreciate someone of your intense boating experience.

Fred J. McCall[_3_] September 2nd 08 12:47 PM

This is not a test
 
hk wrote:
:
:You could always post and then try to sustain a thread about boats, hey?
:

And you could always keep your **** over in rec.boats.

--
You are
What you do
When it counts.

Fred J. McCall[_3_] September 2nd 08 12:48 PM

This is not a test
 
wrote:

:On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:30:34 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
:
wrote:
:
: :On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:44:32 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote: :
: :
: : Oh, and I note you dodged the question. Let's try again. If the
: issue : is the mother and not the daughter, WHAT DID THE MOTHER DO THAT
: WARRANTS : DRAGGING SOME POOR 17 YEAR OLD GIRL OUT INTO PUBLIC
: SCRUTINY? :
: :I'd point out, the mother is the one who did the dragging. One, she is
: :the one who released the statement. Two, if she didn't know she should
: :have known, that this would come out. :
:
: Still waiting for an answer to the question that was asked...
:
:Ask Sarah Palin. She's the one who dragged her daughter into public
:scrutiny.
:

And why was that necessary? Still waiting for an answer to the
question that was asked...

--
"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the
soul with evil."
-- Socrates

HK September 2nd 08 12:52 PM

This is not a test
 
Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote:

:On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:44:32 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
:
: Oh, and I note you dodged the question. Let's try again. If the issue
: is the mother and not the daughter, WHAT DID THE MOTHER DO THAT WARRANTS
: DRAGGING SOME POOR 17 YEAR OLD GIRL OUT INTO PUBLIC SCRUTINY?
:
:I'd point out, the mother is the one who did the dragging. One, she is
:the one who released the statement. Two, if she didn't know she should
:have known, that this would come out.
:

Still waiting for an answer to the question that was asked...




The mother decided to accept John McCain's invitation to be his running
mate in his quest for the presidency. In this country, that means your
entire life history and that of your family becomes grist for the mill.

Perhaps if Mama Moose had not been so adamantly opposed to sex education
in the schools, including proper instruction on birth control, Baby
Moose might have avoided getting pregnant.

My guess is that parents who oppose the teaching of proper sex education
in the schools don't provide that education at home, either. Instead,
they preach abstinence. Well, the rhythm method and abstinence probably
are the two best ways to get pregnant when you don't want to, since
neither method works well on horny teenagers.

For all we know, Baby Moose came to Mama Moose several months ago and
asked for help in getting an abortion, and was turned down. Or perhaps
Baby Moose doesn't want to marry the father of her child, but Mama Moose
is forcing her into it. I hope *that* doesn't become part of the daily
news. I wish Baby Moose well. The best thing she can do, probably, is
move away from that dysfunctional family.


Fred J. McCall[_3_] September 2nd 08 12:54 PM

This is not a test
 
hk wrote:

:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: wrote:
:
: :On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:44:32 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:
: :
: :
: : Oh, and I note you dodged the question. Let's try again. If the issue
: : is the mother and not the daughter, WHAT DID THE MOTHER DO THAT WARRANTS
: : DRAGGING SOME POOR 17 YEAR OLD GIRL OUT INTO PUBLIC SCRUTINY?
: :
: :I'd point out, the mother is the one who did the dragging. One, she is
: :the one who released the statement. Two, if she didn't know she should
: :have known, that this would come out.
: :
:
: Still waiting for an answer to the question that was asked...
:
:
:The mother decided to accept John McCain's invitation to be his running
:mate in his quest for the presidency. In this country, that means your
:entire life history and that of your family becomes grist for the mill.
:

Remember your own oft repeated mantra - the MOTHER is the issue, not
the daughter.

Still waiting for an answer to the question that was asked...

:
:Perhaps if Mama Moose had not been so adamantly opposed to sex education
:in the schools, including proper instruction on birth control, Baby
:Moose might have avoided getting pregnant.
:

Yes, as we all know, it is only people who are opposed to abortion who
get pregnant.

:
:My guess is ...
:

You're responsible for your own stupidity.

--
"You take the lies out of him, and he'll shrink to the size of
your hat; you take the malice out of him, and he'll disappear."
-- Mark Twain

William Black September 2nd 08 12:55 PM

This is not a test
 

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote:

:On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:44:32 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
:
: Oh, and I note you dodged the question. Let's try again. If the
issue
: is the mother and not the daughter, WHAT DID THE MOTHER DO THAT
WARRANTS
: DRAGGING SOME POOR 17 YEAR OLD GIRL OUT INTO PUBLIC SCRUTINY?
:
:I'd point out, the mother is the one who did the dragging. One, she is
:the one who released the statement. Two, if she didn't know she should
:have known, that this would come out.
:

Still waiting for an answer to the question that was asked...




The mother decided to accept John McCain's invitation to be his running
mate in his quest for the presidency. In this country, that means your
entire life history and that of your family becomes grist for the mill.

Perhaps if Mama Moose had not been so adamantly opposed to sex education
in the schools, including proper instruction on birth control, Baby Moose
might have avoided getting pregnant.

My guess is that parents who oppose the teaching of proper sex education
in the schools don't provide that education at home, either. Instead, they
preach abstinence. Well, the rhythm method and abstinence probably are the
two best ways to get pregnant when you don't want to, since neither method
works well on horny teenagers.


The phrase you're looking for here is:

"Political correctness run mad".

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.




HK September 2nd 08 12:58 PM

This is not a test
 
Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote:

:On Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:30:34 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
:
wrote:
:
: :On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:44:32 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote: :
: :
: : Oh, and I note you dodged the question. Let's try again. If the
: issue : is the mother and not the daughter, WHAT DID THE MOTHER DO THAT
: WARRANTS : DRAGGING SOME POOR 17 YEAR OLD GIRL OUT INTO PUBLIC
: SCRUTINY? :
: :I'd point out, the mother is the one who did the dragging. One, she is
: :the one who released the statement. Two, if she didn't know she should
: :have known, that this would come out. :
:
: Still waiting for an answer to the question that was asked...
:
:Ask Sarah Palin. She's the one who dragged her daughter into public
:scrutiny.
:

And why was that necessary? Still waiting for an answer to the
question that was asked...



Why was it necessary for Mama Moose to disclose her daughter's pregnancy?

Because she failed to do it when her selection was announced.

In American politics, every aspect of a candidate's personal life has
become grist for the mill. Her personal life includes her family.

Got it?

HK September 2nd 08 12:59 PM

This is not a test
 
William Black wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Fred J. McCall wrote:
wrote:

:On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:44:32 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
:
: Oh, and I note you dodged the question. Let's try again. If the
issue
: is the mother and not the daughter, WHAT DID THE MOTHER DO THAT
WARRANTS
: DRAGGING SOME POOR 17 YEAR OLD GIRL OUT INTO PUBLIC SCRUTINY?
:
:I'd point out, the mother is the one who did the dragging. One, she is
:the one who released the statement. Two, if she didn't know she should
:have known, that this would come out.
:

Still waiting for an answer to the question that was asked...



The mother decided to accept John McCain's invitation to be his running
mate in his quest for the presidency. In this country, that means your
entire life history and that of your family becomes grist for the mill.

Perhaps if Mama Moose had not been so adamantly opposed to sex education
in the schools, including proper instruction on birth control, Baby Moose
might have avoided getting pregnant.

My guess is that parents who oppose the teaching of proper sex education
in the schools don't provide that education at home, either. Instead, they
preach abstinence. Well, the rhythm method and abstinence probably are the
two best ways to get pregnant when you don't want to, since neither method
works well on horny teenagers.


The phrase you're looking for here is:

"Political correctness run mad".



That works.


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