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hk wrote:
Vince wrote:
hk wrote:
Vincent wrote:
hk wrote:
Vincent wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:28:32 -0400, hk wrote:


Well, I wasn't going to be the one to spill the alleged details.
If it
is true, it is an immediate disqualifier for the woman, not
because of
the act, but because of the basic dishonesty it exhibits.

BS, there are times a lie is justified. This is one of them.
Again, it's their business.


Her daughter is pregnant right now

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...100710_pf.html


Vince


Birth control isn't available in Alaska?

not for the right wing evangelicals, they rely on abstinence
education, until they become grandparents



Vince


Well, I hope the girl is treated more kindly by the media than Jamie
Lynn Spears was. I also hope she was at least 16 when she had
intercourse, assuming 16 is the age of consent in Alaska.

Ah, yes...abstinence education, about as realistic as, say, creationism.

The girl deserves proper treatment and privacy

Remember this woman was picked to appeal to the evangelical family
values anti sex anti abortion crowd

the 2004 gop platform was clearly in the "keep em stupid " version of
sex education

"Therefore, we support doubling abstinence education funding. We
oppose school-based clinics that provide referrals, counseling, and
related services for contraception and abortion."

The republicans make teen pregnancies a political issue


The failure by her mother to promptly disclose and the poor judgment
shown by McCain in thinking this could be kept secret are very and
reasonably troubling


Vince


"Therefore, we support doubling abstinence education funding. We oppose
school-based clinics that provide referrals, counseling, and related
services for contraception and abortion."


Obviously, the Republicans favor teen pregnancies, because if they
didn't, they would favor school based clinics that provide referrals,
counseling and related services for contraception, if not for abortion.

I don't want to see the young lady interviewed or overly photographed
because of this, but I sure want to see her mama and papa questioned
about this, their child-rearing practices, and their ability to raise
the remainder of their children in the face of this failure.

And I entirely agree with your comment about McCain.
His failure to disclose is yet another lapse.


right especially when they used her children to prop up her campaigne
appearance

"At a rally Saturday evening in Washington, Pennsylvania, Bristol did
not join the rest of her family on stage.

"Then we have our daughter Bristol, she's on the bus with the newborn,
and then we have our daughter Willow, who is here, and our youngest
daughter Piper," Palin said as she introduced her family.

"On that bus we have our son Trig, who is a beautiful baby boy we
welcomed into the world just in April. It's his naptime, so he is with
his big sister on the bus. But we thank them for being here."


So she is the "big sister" not the pregnant girl who we dont want seen

Vince

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"Vince" wrote in message
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hk wrote:
Vincent wrote:
hk wrote:
Vincent wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:28:32 -0400, hk wrote:


Well, I wasn't going to be the one to spill the alleged details. If
it
is true, it is an immediate disqualifier for the woman, not because
of
the act, but because of the basic dishonesty it exhibits.

BS, there are times a lie is justified. This is one of them. Again,
it's their business.


Her daughter is pregnant right now

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...100710_pf.html

Vince


Birth control isn't available in Alaska?

not for the right wing evangelicals, they rely on abstinence education,
until they become grandparents



Vince


Well, I hope the girl is treated more kindly by the media than Jamie Lynn
Spears was. I also hope she was at least 16 when she had intercourse,
assuming 16 is the age of consent in Alaska.

Ah, yes...abstinence education, about as realistic as, say, creationism.

The girl deserves proper treatment and privacy

Remember this woman was picked to appeal to the evangelical family values
anti sex anti abortion crowd

the 2004 gop platform was clearly in the "keep em stupid " version of sex
education

"Therefore, we support doubling abstinence education funding. We oppose
school-based clinics that provide referrals, counseling, and related
services for contraception and abortion."

The republicans make teen pregnancies a political issue


The failure by her mother to promptly disclose and the poor judgment shown
by McCain in thinking this could be kept secret are very and reasonably
troubling


What it does is demonstrate ... dare I say it again ... hypocrisy. When you
are someone and some Party that purports to be the beacon of high moral
values, make sure you are prepared for the fall from grace ...

- nilita

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"tankfixer" wrote in message
...
In article , raymond-
says...

"tankfixer" wrote in message
. ..
dying.

and telling people with nowhere to go and no cars to get there is
rather
hopeless.
but nothing is ever georges fault is it.

If he had acted before being asked you would be howling how he excceed
his authority

straw man arguments is all you ever have.

PKB son.

The president does not have dictatorial powers, no matter what your
paranoid mind may think.


he didn't need dictatorial powers, all he had to do was exercise the ones
he did have.
instead he ate cake with mccain. then went fund raising in ariona and
california

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Raymond O'Hara wrote:
"tankfixer" wrote in message
...
In article , raymond-
says...
"tankfixer" wrote in message
. ..
dying.
and telling people with nowhere to go and no cars to get there is
rather
hopeless.
but nothing is ever georges fault is it.
If he had acted before being asked you would be howling how he excceed
his authority
straw man arguments is all you ever have.
PKB son.

The president does not have dictatorial powers, no matter what your
paranoid mind may think.


he didn't need dictatorial powers, all he had to do was exercise the ones
he did have.
instead he ate cake with mccain. then went fund raising in ariona and
california




Bush thinks he has dictatorial powers. Just check his history of
"signing statements."

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On Sep 1, 12:34*pm, "La N" wrote:
"Vince" wrote in message

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hk wrote:
Vincent wrote:
hk wrote:
Vincent wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:28:32 -0400, hk wrote:

Well, I wasn't going to be the one to spill the alleged details. If
it
is true, it is an immediate disqualifier for the woman, not because
of
the act, but because of the basic dishonesty it exhibits.

BS, there are times a lie is justified. *This is one of them. *Again,
it's their business.

Her daughter is pregnant right now

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...08/09/01/AR200...

Vince

Birth control isn't available in Alaska?

not for the right wing evangelicals, they rely on abstinence education,
until they become grandparents

Vince

Well, I hope the girl is treated more kindly by the media than Jamie Lynn
Spears was. I also hope she was at least 16 when she had intercourse,
assuming 16 is the age of consent in Alaska.

Ah, yes...abstinence education, about as realistic as, say, creationism.

The girl deserves proper treatment and privacy

Remember this woman was picked to appeal to the evangelical family values
anti sex anti abortion crowd

the 2004 gop platform was clearly in the "keep em stupid " version of sex
education

"Therefore, we support doubling abstinence education funding. We oppose
school-based clinics that provide referrals, counseling, and related
services for contraception and abortion."

The republicans make teen pregnancies a political issue

The failure by her mother to promptly disclose and the poor judgment shown
by McCain in thinking this could be kept secret are very and reasonably
troubling

What it does is demonstrate ... dare I say it again ... hypocrisy. *When you
are someone and some Party that purports to be the beacon of high moral
values, make sure you are prepared for the fall from grace ...

- nilita

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/20...16/1017/581734

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On Sep 1, 11:28*am, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:59:35 -0400, hk wrote:

* BTW, there is a very interesting and juicy rumor floating about
regarding Ms. Palin and that pregnancy. It's too salacious for even me
to repeat it here or discuss it before the story breaks.

It's already broken, and it shouldn't have. *Even if true, it's the
family's business, no one else's.

However, there are some tenuous ties to the Alaskan Independence Party
that she should clarify. *I'm not sure I'd want a secessionist as
President.

Well, I wasn't going to be the one to spill the alleged details. If it
is true, it is an immediate disqualifier for the woman, not because of
the act, but because of the basic dishonesty it exhibits.

I'd prefer it *not* to be true.

http://brokencontrollers.com/forums/...ted-t24231.php

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On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:31:21 GMT, Vince wrote:



So she is the "big sister" not the pregnant girl who we dont want seen

You guys are funny.
A 17 year-old unmarried girl gets pregnant.
Her folks are no doubt upset, maybe shamed, and don't want to parade
her belly on national TV. Not good for her, not good for them.
End of the world as we know it.
You sound like a bunch of old housewives sitting around gossiping.
Hilda says, "Martha, did you hear Bertha saw the Connover's youngest,
Betty I think, necking with the Graves' son, Jimmy I think, right in
his car parked in front of the Connovers' house last night?"
Martha, putting both hands to her lips, astounded, says, "Oh Lordy.
Oh Lordy. I do declare, there's trouble brewing there!"
Hilda replies, "What is this world coming to?" and slowly shakes her
head back and forth in a mournful fashion.
Martha follows suit. Then they tsk tsk as continue knitting doilies.
BTW, these old hags could be had for a couple drinks and some sweet
talk when their skin was smooth. And they had shotgun weddings.
Fits you guys to a T. Gossips.

--Vic

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Tim wrote:
On Sep 1, 11:28 am, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:59:35 -0400, hk wrote:
* BTW, there is a very interesting and juicy rumor floating about
regarding Ms. Palin and that pregnancy. It's too salacious for even me
to repeat it here or discuss it before the story breaks.
It's already broken, and it shouldn't have. Even if true, it's the
family's business, no one else's.
However, there are some tenuous ties to the Alaskan Independence Party
that she should clarify. I'm not sure I'd want a secessionist as
President.
Well, I wasn't going to be the one to spill the alleged details. If it
is true, it is an immediate disqualifier for the woman, not because of
the act, but because of the basic dishonesty it exhibits.

I'd prefer it *not* to be true.

http://brokencontrollers.com/forums/...ted-t24231.php

Tim,
Harry doesn't care if the story is true, all he is interested in doing
is spreading rumors.

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On Sep 1, 1:34*pm, "La N" wrote:
"Vince" wrote in message

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hk wrote:
Vincent wrote:
hk wrote:
Vincent wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:28:32 -0400, hk wrote:

Well, I wasn't going to be the one to spill the alleged details. If
it
is true, it is an immediate disqualifier for the woman, not because
of
the act, but because of the basic dishonesty it exhibits.

BS, there are times a lie is justified. *This is one of them. *Again,
it's their business.

Her daughter is pregnant right now

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...08/09/01/AR200...

Vince

Birth control isn't available in Alaska?

not for the right wing evangelicals, they rely on abstinence education,
until they become grandparents

Vince

Well, I hope the girl is treated more kindly by the media than Jamie Lynn
Spears was. I also hope she was at least 16 when she had intercourse,
assuming 16 is the age of consent in Alaska.

Ah, yes...abstinence education, about as realistic as, say, creationism.

The girl deserves proper treatment and privacy

Remember this woman was picked to appeal to the evangelical family values
anti sex anti abortion crowd

the 2004 gop platform was clearly in the "keep em stupid " version of sex
education

"Therefore, we support doubling abstinence education funding. We oppose
school-based clinics that provide referrals, counseling, and related
services for contraception and abortion."

The republicans make teen pregnancies a political issue

The failure by her mother to promptly disclose and the poor judgment shown
by McCain in thinking this could be kept secret are very and reasonably
troubling

What it does is demonstrate ... dare I say it again ... hypocrisy. *When you
are someone and some Party that purports to be the beacon of high moral
values, make sure you are prepared for the fall from grace ...

- nilita- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hey Harry, how many sockpuppets can you bring to the table at one
time? You need help...

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Tim wrote:
On Sep 1, 11:28 am, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:59:35 -0400, hk wrote:
* BTW, there is a very interesting and juicy rumor floating about
regarding Ms. Palin and that pregnancy. It's too salacious for even me
to repeat it here or discuss it before the story breaks.
It's already broken, and it shouldn't have. Even if true, it's the
family's business, no one else's.
However, there are some tenuous ties to the Alaskan Independence Party
that she should clarify. I'm not sure I'd want a secessionist as
President.
Well, I wasn't going to be the one to spill the alleged details. If it
is true, it is an immediate disqualifier for the woman, not because of
the act, but because of the basic dishonesty it exhibits.

I'd prefer it *not* to be true.

http://brokencontrollers.com/forums/...ted-t24231.php


Good spin, but not conclusive.

What is conclusive is that the 17-year-old Palin daughter is pregnant
right now. Would it be news if her mother had not come out so strongly
against school-based sex education and contraception counseling and so
strongly in favor of abstinence?

What's worse...McCain knew about this before he named Palin as his
running mate. Did he think it was going to remain a secret?

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:31:21 GMT, Vince wrote:


So she is the "big sister" not the pregnant girl who we dont want seen

You guys are funny.
A 17 year-old unmarried girl gets pregnant.
Her folks are no doubt upset, maybe shamed, and don't want to parade
her belly on national TV. Not good for her, not good for them.
End of the world as we know it.
You sound like a bunch of old housewives sitting around gossiping.
Hilda says, "Martha, did you hear Bertha saw the Connover's youngest,
Betty I think, necking with the Graves' son, Jimmy I think, right in
his car parked in front of the Connovers' house last night?"
Martha, putting both hands to her lips, astounded, says, "Oh Lordy.
Oh Lordy. I do declare, there's trouble brewing there!"
Hilda replies, "What is this world coming to?" and slowly shakes her
head back and forth in a mournful fashion.
Martha follows suit. Then they tsk tsk as continue knitting doilies.
BTW, these old hags could be had for a couple drinks and some sweet
talk when their skin was smooth. And they had shotgun weddings.
Fits you guys to a T. Gossips.

--Vic


The issue is the mother, not the daughter, and McCain. It's the
Republican b.s. and hypocrisy about abstinence, sex education, and
availability of contraception.

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On Sep 1, 2:12*pm, hk wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:31:21 GMT, Vince wrote:

So she is the "big sister" not the pregnant girl who we dont want seen

You guys are funny.
A 17 year-old unmarried girl gets pregnant.
Her folks are no doubt upset, maybe shamed, and don't want to parade
her belly on national TV. *Not good for her, not good for them.
End of the world as we know it.
You sound like a bunch of old housewives sitting around gossiping.
Hilda says, "Martha, did you hear Bertha saw the Connover's youngest,
Betty I think, necking with the Graves' son, Jimmy I think, right in
his car parked in front of the Connovers' house last night?"
Martha, putting both hands to her lips, astounded, says, "Oh Lordy.
Oh Lordy. *I do declare, there's trouble brewing there!"
Hilda replies, "What is this world coming to?" and slowly shakes her
head back and forth in a mournful fashion.
Martha follows suit. *Then they tsk tsk as continue knitting doilies.
BTW, these old hags could be had for a couple drinks and some sweet
talk when their skin was smooth. *And they had shotgun weddings. *
Fits you guys to a T. *Gossips.

--Vic

The issue is the mother, not the daughter, and McCain. It's the
Republican b.s. and hypocrisy about abstinence, sex education, and
availability of contraception.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The issue is whatever you want it to be for the purposes of this
particular conversation.. you are a bull****ter, plain and simple..

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On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:12:22 -0400, hk wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:31:21 GMT, Vince wrote:


So she is the "big sister" not the pregnant girl who we dont want seen

You guys are funny.
A 17 year-old unmarried girl gets pregnant.
Her folks are no doubt upset, maybe shamed, and don't want to parade
her belly on national TV. Not good for her, not good for them.
End of the world as we know it.
You sound like a bunch of old housewives sitting around gossiping.
Hilda says, "Martha, did you hear Bertha saw the Connover's youngest,
Betty I think, necking with the Graves' son, Jimmy I think, right in
his car parked in front of the Connovers' house last night?"
Martha, putting both hands to her lips, astounded, says, "Oh Lordy.
Oh Lordy. I do declare, there's trouble brewing there!"
Hilda replies, "What is this world coming to?" and slowly shakes her
head back and forth in a mournful fashion.
Martha follows suit. Then they tsk tsk as continue knitting doilies.
BTW, these old hags could be had for a couple drinks and some sweet
talk when their skin was smooth. And they had shotgun weddings.
Fits you guys to a T. Gossips.

--Vic


The issue is the mother, not the daughter, and McCain. It's the
Republican b.s. and hypocrisy about abstinence, sex education, and
availability of contraception.

Nope, just teen-age hormones kicking in. Parents' political parties,
views on birth-control and abstinence, etc, etc, don't matter.
Happens all the time.
I used to read the old gossip Ann Landers after I did the crossword.
Couple things I remember her saying, or maybe just passing on.
One was this:
"Your children don't come from you, they come through you."
Makes sense to me.
Now here you are, an avowed liberal, open-minded, ready-to-forgive,
not only castigating the girl's parents, but blaming John McCain
because a teen-age girl got pregnant.
Idealogues are pretty funny.

--Vic

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On Sep 1, 1:37*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:12:22 -0400, hk wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:31:21 GMT, Vince wrote:

So she is the "big sister" not the pregnant girl who we dont want seen

You guys are funny.
A 17 year-old unmarried girl gets pregnant.
Her folks are no doubt upset, maybe shamed, and don't want to parade
her belly on national TV. *Not good for her, not good for them.
End of the world as we know it.
You sound like a bunch of old housewives sitting around gossiping.
Hilda says, "Martha, did you hear Bertha saw the Connover's youngest,
Betty I think, necking with the Graves' son, Jimmy I think, right in
his car parked in front of the Connovers' house last night?"
Martha, putting both hands to her lips, astounded, says, "Oh Lordy.
Oh Lordy. *I do declare, there's trouble brewing there!"
Hilda replies, "What is this world coming to?" and slowly shakes her
head back and forth in a mournful fashion.
Martha follows suit. *Then they tsk tsk as continue knitting doilies..
BTW, these old hags could be had for a couple drinks and some sweet
talk when their skin was smooth. *And they had shotgun weddings. *
Fits you guys to a T. *Gossips.

--Vic

The issue is the mother, not the daughter, and McCain. It's the
Republican b.s. and hypocrisy about abstinence, sex education, and
availability of contraception.

Nope, just teen-age hormones kicking in. *Parents' political parties,
views on birth-control and abstinence, etc, etc, don't matter.
Happens all the time.
I used to read the old gossip Ann Landers after I did the crossword.
Couple things I remember her saying, or maybe just passing on.
One was this:
"Your children don't come from you, they come through you."
Makes sense to me.
Now here you are, an avowed liberal, open-minded, ready-to-forgive,
not only castigating the girl's parents, but blaming John McCain
because a teen-age girl got pregnant.
Idealogues are pretty funny.

--Vic

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09012008...s_127025.ht m



So the kid's pregnant. That shouldn't be a bother for anyone,
especially the dems. There are programs for her, plenty of them,
including a WIC card which should be readily available to take care of
all her (and ehr babies) basic needs. No need to condemn her, after
all, when a previous POTUS can lie about getting a suck-job from an
intern and be praised for it, then who cares if the under aged Palin
girl is going to have a baby?

Seems that the only thing really unapealing to the dems is that the
daughter is going to keep the baby, instead of having it's brains
sucked out.



another welcomed burden on society *tisk*

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"hk" wrote in message
...
Tim wrote:
On Sep 1, 11:28 am, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:59:35 -0400, hk wrote:
* BTW, there is a very interesting and juicy rumor floating about
regarding Ms. Palin and that pregnancy. It's too salacious for even me
to repeat it here or discuss it before the story breaks.
It's already broken, and it shouldn't have. Even if true, it's the
family's business, no one else's.
However, there are some tenuous ties to the Alaskan Independence Party
that she should clarify. I'm not sure I'd want a secessionist as
President.
Well, I wasn't going to be the one to spill the alleged details. If it
is true, it is an immediate disqualifier for the woman, not because of
the act, but because of the basic dishonesty it exhibits.

I'd prefer it *not* to be true.

http://brokencontrollers.com/forums/...ted-t24231.php


Good spin, but not conclusive.

What is conclusive is that the 17-year-old Palin daughter is pregnant
right now. Would it be news if her mother had not come out so strongly
against school-based sex education and contraception counseling and so
strongly in favor of abstinence?

What's worse...McCain knew about this before he named Palin as his running
mate. Did he think it was going to remain a secret?

Osamabama said the issue is a personal family matter and not to be used by
his campaign. At least he has some class, unlike Hairy.

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:31:21 GMT, Vince wrote:


So she is the "big sister" not the pregnant girl who we dont want seen

You guys are funny.
A 17 year-old unmarried girl gets pregnant.
Her folks are no doubt upset, maybe shamed, and don't want to parade
her belly on national TV. Not good for her, not good for them.
End of the world as we know it.
You sound like a bunch of old housewives sitting around gossiping.
Hilda says, "Martha, did you hear Bertha saw the Connover's youngest,
Betty I think, necking with the Graves' son, Jimmy I think, right in
his car parked in front of the Connovers' house last night?"
Martha, putting both hands to her lips, astounded, says, "Oh Lordy.
Oh Lordy. I do declare, there's trouble brewing there!"
Hilda replies, "What is this world coming to?" and slowly shakes her
head back and forth in a mournful fashion.
Martha follows suit. Then they tsk tsk as continue knitting doilies.
BTW, these old hags could be had for a couple drinks and some sweet
talk when their skin was smooth. And they had shotgun weddings.
Fits you guys to a T. Gossips.

--Vic


oh right

Teenage sex is a private matter when its REPUBLICAN teen aged sex

How many millions have the GOP spendt to make teen age sex a PUBLIC matter?

fighting legal rights for same sex couples etc

Vince

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On Sep 1, 2:12*pm, Vincent wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:31:21 GMT, Vince wrote:

So she is the "big sister" not the pregnant girl who we dont want seen

You guys are funny.
A 17 year-old unmarried girl gets pregnant.
Her folks are no doubt upset, maybe shamed, and don't want to parade
her belly on national TV. *Not good for her, not good for them.
End of the world as we know it.
You sound like a bunch of old housewives sitting around gossiping.
Hilda says, "Martha, did you hear Bertha saw the Connover's youngest,
Betty I think, necking with the Graves' son, Jimmy I think, right in
his car parked in front of the Connovers' house last night?"
Martha, putting both hands to her lips, astounded, says, "Oh Lordy.
Oh Lordy. *I do declare, there's trouble brewing there!"
Hilda replies, "What is this world coming to?" and slowly shakes her
head back and forth in a mournful fashion.
Martha follows suit. *Then they tsk tsk as continue knitting doilies.
BTW, these old hags could be had for a couple drinks and some sweet
talk when their skin was smooth. *And they had shotgun weddings. *
Fits you guys to a T. *Gossips.

--Vic

oh right

Teenage sex is a private matter when its REPUBLICAN teen aged sex

How many millions have the GOP spendt to make teen age sex a PUBLIC matter?

fighting legal rights for same sex couples etc

Vince

how many millions has been spent to make teenage abortion a private
matter. even from the kids parents?

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Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:12:22 -0400, hk wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:31:21 GMT, Vince wrote:


So she is the "big sister" not the pregnant girl who we dont want seen

You guys are funny.
A 17 year-old unmarried girl gets pregnant.
Her folks are no doubt upset, maybe shamed, and don't want to parade
her belly on national TV. Not good for her, not good for them.
End of the world as we know it.
You sound like a bunch of old housewives sitting around gossiping.
Hilda says, "Martha, did you hear Bertha saw the Connover's youngest,
Betty I think, necking with the Graves' son, Jimmy I think, right in
his car parked in front of the Connovers' house last night?"
Martha, putting both hands to her lips, astounded, says, "Oh Lordy.
Oh Lordy. I do declare, there's trouble brewing there!"
Hilda replies, "What is this world coming to?" and slowly shakes her
head back and forth in a mournful fashion.
Martha follows suit. Then they tsk tsk as continue knitting doilies.
BTW, these old hags could be had for a couple drinks and some sweet
talk when their skin was smooth. And they had shotgun weddings.
Fits you guys to a T. Gossips.

--Vic

The issue is the mother, not the daughter, and McCain. It's the
Republican b.s. and hypocrisy about abstinence, sex education, and
availability of contraception.

Nope, just teen-age hormones kicking in. Parents' political parties,
views on birth-control and abstinence, etc, etc, don't matter.
Happens all the time.
I used to read the old gossip Ann Landers after I did the crossword.
Couple things I remember her saying, or maybe just passing on.
One was this:
"Your children don't come from you, they come through you."
Makes sense to me.
Now here you are, an avowed liberal, open-minded, ready-to-forgive,
not only castigating the girl's parents, but blaming John McCain
because a teen-age girl got pregnant.
Idealogues are pretty funny.

--Vic



When the GOP says sex is a purely private matter
no problem

Till then its just hypocritical GOP ideologues getting caught

Vince

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hk wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Sep 1, 11:28 am, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:59:35 -0400, hk wrote:
* BTW, there is a very interesting and juicy rumor floating about
regarding Ms. Palin and that pregnancy. It's too salacious for even me
to repeat it here or discuss it before the story breaks.
It's already broken, and it shouldn't have. Even if true, it's the
family's business, no one else's.
However, there are some tenuous ties to the Alaskan Independence Party
that she should clarify. I'm not sure I'd want a secessionist as
President.
Well, I wasn't going to be the one to spill the alleged details. If it
is true, it is an immediate disqualifier for the woman, not because of
the act, but because of the basic dishonesty it exhibits.

I'd prefer it *not* to be true.

http://brokencontrollers.com/forums/...ted-t24231.php



Good spin, but not conclusive.

What is conclusive is that the 17-year-old Palin daughter is pregnant
right now. Would it be news if her mother had not come out so strongly
against school-based sex education and contraception counseling and so
strongly in favor of abstinence?

What's worse...McCain knew about this before he named Palin as his
running mate. Did he think it was going to remain a secret?

You have a problem with sex now?

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hk wrote:

:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: hk wrote:
: :
: :Of course not. If I were "pushing" my beliefs, I'd be actively seeking
: :judicial or legislative solutions,
: :
:
: And Roe v Wade is certainly nothing like that...
:
: You know, you're as big an ass as the people you attack.
:
:
:D'oh. Roe v. Wade is the law of the land.
:

D'oh. Roe v. Wade is a judicial solution.

You know. One of those things claim you don't want...

--
"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the
soul with evil."
-- Socrates

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BAR wrote:

:hk wrote:
: Fred J. McCall wrote:
: hk wrote:
: :
: :Of course not. If I were "pushing" my beliefs, I'd be actively
: seeking :judicial or legislative solutions, :
:
: And Roe v Wade is certainly nothing like that...
:
: You know, you're as big an ass as the people you attack.
:
:
:
: D'oh. Roe v. Wade is the law of the land.
:
:Roe vs. Wade is a judicial interpretation. If Congress ever grew a pair
:and enacted legislation Roe vs. Wade would disappear with the stroke of
:a pen.
:

Uh, no. Congress can't legislate away the Constitution. Only the
Court can do that.

--
"It's always different. It's always complex. But at some point,
somebody has to draw the line. And that somebody is always me....
I am the law."
-- Buffy, The Vampire Slayer

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hk wrote:
:
:Ah, yes...abstinence education, about as realistic as, say, creationism.
:

So your claim is that virgin births are common?

Who knew?

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn

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hk wrote:

:Vincent wrote:
: wrote:
: On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:28:32 -0400, hk wrote:
:
:
: Well, I wasn't going to be the one to spill the alleged details. If it
: is true, it is an immediate disqualifier for the woman, not because of
: the act, but because of the basic dishonesty it exhibits.
:
: BS, there are times a lie is justified. This is one of them. Again,
: it's their business.
:
:
: Her daughter is pregnant right now
:
: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...100710_pf.html
:
:
:Birth control isn't available in Alaska?
:

Brains aren't available above your neck?

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn

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hk wrote:

:Raymond O'Hara wrote:
: "Fred J. McCall" wrote in message
: ...
: hk wrote:
: :
: :Of course not. If I were "pushing" my beliefs, I'd be actively seeking
: :judicial or legislative solutions,
: :
:
: And Roe v Wade is certainly nothing like that...
:
:
: what does roe v wade force on anybody?
: it stops the government from having control over women.
:
:
:Right-wingers don't seem to understand the concept...or the
:underpinnings of of Roe v. Wade.
:

Or the lack of support. Perhaps it's left-wingers who don't seem to
understand?

:By all that is holy to them Constitutionally and legally, they should be
:supporters of Roe v. Wade.
:

Please point to the text in the Constitution that Roe v. Wade is based
on.

--
"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the
soul with evil."
-- Socrates

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Fred J. McCall wrote:
hk wrote:
:
:Ah, yes...abstinence education, about as realistic as, say, creationism.
:

So your claim is that virgin births are common?

Who knew?



Maybe in your family, not in mine.

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 10:43:46 -0400, hk wrote:

I haven't worked for thugs for years, and they weren't uneducated.

Now *that* is funny.


Really. I am still getting belly spasms.

Eisboch

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Fred J. McCall wrote:
hk wrote:

:Raymond O'Hara wrote: : "Fred J. McCall" wrote
in message : ... :
hk wrote: : : : :Of course not. If I
were "pushing" my beliefs, I'd be actively seeking : :judicial or
legislative solutions, : : : : And Roe v Wade is certainly
nothing like that... : : : what does roe v wade force on anybody?
: it stops the government from having control over women. : :
:Right-wingers don't seem to understand the concept...or the
:underpinnings of of Roe v. Wade. :

Or the lack of support. Perhaps it's left-wingers who don't seem to
understand?

:By all that is holy to them Constitutionally and legally, they
should be :supporters of Roe v. Wade. :

Please point to the text in the Constitution that Roe v. Wade is
based on.



Not the issue

The Constitution is interpreted, not read

http://www.usscplus.com/info/interp.htm

The court was interpreting the "Liberty" portion of the due process
clause, as It has since Meyer v Nebraska
http://www.oyez.org/cases/1901-1939/1922/1922_325/
Vince

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On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:59:35 -0400, hk wrote:


* BTW, there is a very interesting and juicy rumor floating about
regarding Ms. Palin and that pregnancy. It's too salacious for even me
to repeat it here or discuss it before the story breaks.



Is the news that her 17 year old daughter is pregnant the "juicy" news you
have been awaiting?


yawn

Eisboch

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Eisboch wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 10:43:46 -0400, hk wrote:

I haven't worked for thugs for years, and they weren't uneducated.
Now *that* is funny.


Really. I am still getting belly spasms.

Eisboch




:)

Some of them were quite scary...or worse.

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hk wrote:
:
:Bush thinks he has dictatorial powers. Just check his history of
:"signing statements."
:

Hint: Bush didn't invent "signing statements". President Clinton
(for example) used more "signing statements" during his 8 years than
Bush has (381 to 157).

Hint: Clinton didn't invent them, either. The first was penned by
James Monroe.

--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
-- Thomas Jefferson

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"hk" wrote in message
...


The issue is the mother, not the daughter, and McCain. It's the Republican
b.s. and hypocrisy about abstinence, sex education, and availability of
contraception.


Harry's upset because a 17 year old became pregnant.

Think about that.

Eisboch

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Eisboch wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:59:35 -0400, hk wrote:


* BTW, there is a very interesting and juicy rumor floating about
regarding Ms. Palin and that pregnancy. It's too salacious for even me
to repeat it here or discuss it before the story breaks.


Is the news that her 17 year old daughter is pregnant the "juicy" news you
have been awaiting?


yawn

Eisboch



Nope.

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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...

The issue is the mother, not the daughter, and McCain. It's the Republican
b.s. and hypocrisy about abstinence, sex education, and availability of
contraception.


Harry's upset because a 17 year old became pregnant.

Think about that.

Eisboch




You don't read for content, either? I'm disappointed.

Try again:


"The issue is the mother, not the daughter, and McCain. It's the
Republican b.s. and hypocrisy about abstinence, sex education, and
availability of contraception."

I'm not sure I could have stated it more directly.

The issue is the mother, not the daughter...

Got it?

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"hk" wrote in message
...


What is conclusive is that the 17-year-old Palin daughter is pregnant
right now. Would it be news if her mother had not come out so strongly
against school-based sex education and contraception counseling and so
strongly in favor of abstinence?

What's worse...McCain knew about this before he named Palin as his running
mate. Did he think it was going to remain a secret?




The fact that a 17 year old is pregnant and you are making such a big deal
about it speaks volumes to your credibility.

Next thing we'll hear is that you have converted over to a right-wing
Republican.

Eisboch

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"BAR" wrote in message
. ..

hk wrote:

What is conclusive is that the 17-year-old Palin daughter is pregnant
right now. Would it be news if her mother had not come out so strongly
against school-based sex education and contraception counseling and so
strongly in favor of abstinence?

What's worse...McCain knew about this before he named Palin as his
running mate. Did he think it was going to remain a secret?



You have a problem with sex now?


Heh. LOL... I love it ...

Eisboch

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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...

What is conclusive is that the 17-year-old Palin daughter is pregnant
right now. Would it be news if her mother had not come out so strongly
against school-based sex education and contraception counseling and so
strongly in favor of abstinence?

What's worse...McCain knew about this before he named Palin as his running
mate. Did he think it was going to remain a secret?




The fact that a 17 year old is pregnant and you are making such a big deal
about it speaks volumes to your credibility.

Next thing we'll hear is that you have converted over to a right-wing
Republican.

Eisboch




Once again, the issue is the girl's mother and Republican hypocrisy on
sex education, abstinence and contraception, not the girl.

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hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..

Eisboch wrote:
That's not an indication of intelligence. It's a confirmation of
arrogance.

Eisboch


Do you get it now?

Did I make it simple enough?

:}



You are good. But, you're not *that* good. To some of us your
transparency is obvious.

But, that's ok. It takes all kinds in the world to make it interesting.

Eisboch



Ohh, I'm a pretty damn good writer, but I don't waste effort here.
There's no point to it, and no money, either. :)


Your true colors are shinning thru Harry. You are of the I want mine,
screw everyone else crowd.

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Jack Linthicum wrote:
On Sep 1, 11:10 am, BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
Fred J. McCall wrote:
hk wrote:
:
:Of course not. If I were "pushing" my beliefs, I'd be actively
seeking :judicial or legislative solutions, :
And Roe v Wade is certainly nothing like that...
You know, you're as big an ass as the people you attack.
D'oh. Roe v. Wade is the law of the land.
Roe vs. Wade is a judicial interpretation. If Congress ever grew a pair
and enacted legislation Roe vs. Wade would disappear with the stroke of
a pen.

Looks like a law to me, do you have a citation that says otherwise?

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/script...l=410&page=113

That is a judicial decision/interpretation. A law is where the chief
executive has signed a bill from a legislative body.

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hk wrote:

:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: hk wrote:
: :
: :Ah, yes...abstinence education, about as realistic as, say, creationism.
: :
:
: So your claim is that virgin births are common?
:
: Who knew?
:
:
:Maybe in your family, not in mine.
:

So it would seem that abstinence will prevent pregnancy after all. So
much for your silly comparison to creationism, above.

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn