On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:11:54 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:



Dino's on West Higgins, not far from O'Hare. Forget the big stores like Lou
Malnati's. Nothing as good as a "neighborhood" pizza. Thin crust, of
course.

The problem is things change.
I had my favorite neighborhood thin crust place, but since I haven't
had one from there for 5 years I can't recommend it..
Eduardo's usually has a good thin crust.
Then there's personal taste.
I'm a pizza "purist" in that I usually only wan't cheese and sausage
pizza, though I can tolerate pepperoni occasionally.
Thin crust and stuffed (Giordano's ain't bad) are totally different
meals.
But the bottom line to me on any pizza is crust, sauce, cheese.
Cheese is the easiest - a quality moz, and those are the same.
Crust, sausage and sauce are really personal preference.
Especially sauce. Some prefer tart, some sweeter.
The sauce makes the pizza more than anything.
I've had many arguments with my wife about combo pizzas, because I
don't want my pizza sullied with garbage like green peppers, onions or
mushrooms. Those mask the aromas of a good sauce.
She gave up and eats "my" kind of pizza now, otherwise we get a
separate pizza for her preferences. She doesn't care much for pizza
anyway. Just liked to argue about it.
Mushrooms wouldn't be too bad since the taste is mild, but most joints
will get too much of the juice the mushrooms are in on the pizza,
which pollutes the sauce.
A moderate amount of chopped and very well drained green olive is
about the only add-on I kinda like.
Crust is another personal preference, but most people agree on what's
"good."
There's a joint on the north side called Nancy's that uses corn flour
and the crust was real good. Got those for some years but moved on
when my taste changed for sauce, as Nancy's had a real tart sauce.
Then there's that yuppie BS pizza with pineapple and other weird
stuff. I can't count the times I was out with business people and
didn't eat the crap pizza they ordered. I felt like smacking them down
and kicking them a little, but that's not good for business.
Lucky for me I'm not big on lunch and could just watch them pig out on
that junk while I sipped coffee or a beer.
Another thing that puzzles me is people who have found a good pizza,
but try a different joint.
Big mistake!
You wait all week for a pizza and then take a chance to be
disappointed? Crazy!
Stay loyal to your chosen pizza joint!
Only change if they change!

--Vic

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:36:54 -0400, DownTime
wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:

Which is not to say that NY style pizza isn't good by the way.

I just like a good Chicago pizza as well as a thin crust NY style
pizza.

It's scary, but I swear we must be related(I'm from CT, Stratford to be
exact). I generally prefer thin-crust NY style, but good a Chicago pizza
can be appreciated as well.

You can get a good thin crust in Chicago. Only difference I've
noticed is sausage is more popular in Chicago, pepperoni back east.
Being from Chicago I don't automatically think deep dish or stuffed.
Depends what you want.
Lots of people here won't touch a fat pizza.
They didn't even get popular until maybe the 70's.

--Vic

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote:

hk wrote:

You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?

Here's the answer:

Nothing.


But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.

And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but
I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through
additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing
me now.

I don't think any of these jokers have a real plan. Maybe Hillary
did.
I heard McCain talking a couple times about a 5 or 6 grand gov boost
to offset insurance costs. Don't know if it's a credit or write-off.
Why don't you do some research yourself if it concerns you?

--Vic

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 11:43:59 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
...
wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote:

hk wrote:

You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?

Here's the answer:

Nothing.


But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but
I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through
additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing
me now.

Still looking for a little substance,
TJ

We are already paying for the best health care system in the world. We
just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money,
we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of
everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right now
on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have to
fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's
ambition.


Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit!

From Obama's site:

Barack Obama's Plan
Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All

* Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make available
a new national health plan to all Americans, including the self-employed
and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage that is similar to
the plan available to members of Congress. The Obama plan will have the
following features:


Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the claims
and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an investigator for the
state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found fraud, it usually also included
Medicare fraud. They turn info over to the Feds and Nada was done.
http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html

That fraud thing really ****es me off. The gov could spend a penny to
save a quarter with more fraud investigators.
But then some asshole would start whining about a bigger federal
payroll.
You need enough cops to keep crime in check. No 2 ways about it.

--Vic

On Aug 26, 5:00*pm, hk wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
om...
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
news:W5WdnY4DXMbZgCnVnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast .com...
wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote:

hk wrote:

You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?

Here's the answer:

Nothing.

But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella.
That's what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one,
but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket
through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance
is costing me now.

Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
We are already paying for the best health care system in the world.
We
just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money,
we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of
everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right
now
on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have
to
fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's
ambition.
Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! *Dammit!

From Obama's site:

Barack Obama's Plan
Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All

* * * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make
available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the
self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage
that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The
Obama plan will have the following features:

Based on Medicare program? *Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the
claims and do not check for fraud? *My fishing partner was an
investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. *When they found
fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. *They turn info over to
the Feds and Nada was done.
http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html

snerk
Yup, snerk on your program.

Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's
proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already
got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it.

Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense
on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about.

Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. *Is plans so far are about like
Kerry's I have a plan, plan. * Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give
everybody a $1000 check. *Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. *The
governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. *They going to increase
those also? *Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas
will cost a gallon then? *Stupid is your middle name.

Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate
icon and read it for yourself.

I tried. I went to barackobama.com

First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip
code.

Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I
did.

So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for
contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............

Sorry...........not the way I do business. Be upfront about your
plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if
you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate.

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:22:35 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote:

hk wrote:

You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?

Here's the answer:

Nothing.


But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.

And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but
I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through
additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing
me now.

I don't think any of these jokers have a real plan. Maybe Hillary
did.
I heard McCain talking a couple times about a 5 or 6 grand gov boost
to offset insurance costs. Don't know if it's a credit or write-off.
Why don't you do some research yourself if it concerns you?

--Vic

He's already asking a source that knows everything. What more would you
expect him to do?
--
John *H*

JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote:
hk wrote:
You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?
Here's the answer:
Nothing.
But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella.
That's what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one,
but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket
through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance
is costing me now.
Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
We are already paying for the best health care system in the world.
We
just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money,
we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of
everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right
now
on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have
to
fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's
ambition.
Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit!
From Obama's site:
Barack Obama's Plan
Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All
* Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make
available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the
self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage
that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The
Obama plan will have the following features:
Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the
claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an
investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found
fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to
the Feds and Nada was done.
http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html
snerk
Yup, snerk on your program.
Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's
proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already
got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it.
Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense
on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about.
Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. Is plans so far are about like
Kerry's I have a plan, plan. Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give
everybody a $1000 check. Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. The
governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. They going to increase
those also? Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas
will cost a gallon then? Stupid is your middle name.
Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate
icon and read it for yourself.

I tried. I went to barackobama.com

First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip
code.

Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I
did.

So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for
contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............

Sorry...........not the way I do business. Be upfront about your
plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if
you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate.


Gee, that doesn't happen when I log on there. On the upper right of the
site is a box that sez SKIP DONATION, go right to website. Once there,
click on issues. Scroll down to health care.


No donations, no names, no video.

On Aug 26, 5:39*pm, HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
news:z4SdnaVtNfAZ0inVnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d@comcast .com...
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
news:W5WdnY4DXMbZgCnVnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comca st.com...
wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote:
hk wrote:
You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?
Here's the answer:
Nothing.
But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella..
That's what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one,
but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket
through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance
is costing me now.
Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
We are already paying for the best health care system in the world.
We
just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money,
we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of
everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right
now
on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have
to
fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's
ambition.
Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! *Dammit!
From Obama's site:
Barack Obama's Plan
Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All
* * * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make
available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the
self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage
that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The
Obama plan will have the following features:
Based on Medicare program? *Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the
claims and do not check for fraud? *My fishing partner was an
investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. *When they found
fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. *They turn info over to
the Feds and Nada was done.
http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html
snerk
Yup, snerk on your program.
Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's
proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already
got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it.
Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense
on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about.
Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. *Is plans so far are about like
Kerry's I have a plan, plan. * Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give
everybody a $1000 check. *Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. *The
governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. *They going to increase
those also? *Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas
will cost a gallon then? *Stupid is your middle name.
Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate
icon and read it for yourself.

I tried. I went to barackobama.com

First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip
code.

Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I
did.

So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for
contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............

Sorry...........not the way I do business. *Be upfront about your
plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if
you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate.

Gee, that doesn't happen when I log on there. On the upper right of the
site is a box that sez SKIP DONATION, go right to website. Once there,
click on issues. Scroll down to health care.

No donations, no names, no video.

Sorry but it happened the first time I logged onto barackobama.com.
You must have already registered, which then takes you to his plea to
donate to him.

JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:39 pm, HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote:
hk wrote:
You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?
Here's the answer:
Nothing.
But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella.
That's what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one,
but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket
through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance
is costing me now.
Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
We are already paying for the best health care system in the world.
We
just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money,
we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of
everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right
now
on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have
to
fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's
ambition.
Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit!
From Obama's site:
Barack Obama's Plan
Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All
* Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make
available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the
self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage
that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The
Obama plan will have the following features:
Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the
claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an
investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found
fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to
the Feds and Nada was done.
http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html
snerk
Yup, snerk on your program.
Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's
proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already
got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it.
Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense
on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about.
Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. Is plans so far are about like
Kerry's I have a plan, plan. Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give
everybody a $1000 check. Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. The
governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. They going to increase
those also? Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas
will cost a gallon then? Stupid is your middle name.
Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate
icon and read it for yourself.
I tried. I went to barackobama.com
First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip
code.
Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I
did.
So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for
contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............
Sorry...........not the way I do business. Be upfront about your
plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if
you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate.
Gee, that doesn't happen when I log on there. On the upper right of the
site is a box that sez SKIP DONATION, go right to website. Once there,
click on issues. Scroll down to health care.

No donations, no names, no video.

Sorry but it happened the first time I logged onto barackobama.com.
You must have already registered, which then takes you to his plea to
donate to him.


Nope.

Not registered there or on any other candidate's site.

On Aug 26, 5:46*pm, hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:39 pm, HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
news:z4SdnaVtNfAZ0inVnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d@comca st.com...
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
news:W5WdnY4DXMbZgCnVnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@com cast.com...
wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote:
hk wrote:
You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?
Here's the answer:
Nothing.
But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella.
That's what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one,
but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket
through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance
is costing me now.
Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
We are already paying for the best health care system in the world.
We
just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money,
we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of
everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right
now
on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have
to
fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's
ambition.
Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! *Dammit!
From Obama's site:
Barack Obama's Plan
Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All
* * * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make
available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the
self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage
that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The
Obama plan will have the following features:
Based on Medicare program? *Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the
claims and do not check for fraud? *My fishing partner was an
investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. *When they found
fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. *They turn info over to
the Feds and Nada was done.
http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html
snerk
Yup, snerk on your program.
Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's
proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already
got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it.
Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense
on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about.
Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. *Is plans so far are about like
Kerry's I have a plan, plan. * Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give
everybody a $1000 check. *Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. *The
governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. *They going to increase
those also? *Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas
will cost a gallon then? *Stupid is your middle name.
Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate
icon and read it for yourself.
I tried. I went to barackobama.com
First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip
code.
Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I
did.
So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for
contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............
Sorry...........not the way I do business. *Be upfront about your
plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if
you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate.
Gee, that doesn't happen when I log on there. On the upper right of the
site is a box that sez SKIP DONATION, go right to website. Once there,
click on issues. Scroll down to health care.

No donations, no names, no video.

Sorry but it happened the first time I logged onto barackobama.com.
You must have already registered, which then takes you to his plea to
donate to him.

Nope.

Not registered there or on any other candidate's site.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Pfffftttt lobsta' boat!