On Aug 26, 5:46*pm, hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:39 pm, HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote:
hk wrote:
You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?
Here's the answer:
Nothing.
But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella.
That's what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one,
but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket
through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance
is costing me now.
Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
We are already paying for the best health care system in the world.
We
just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money,
we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of
everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right
now
on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have
to
fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's
ambition.
Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! *Dammit!
From Obama's site:
Barack Obama's Plan
Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All
* * * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make
available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the
self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage
that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The
Obama plan will have the following features:
Based on Medicare program? *Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the
claims and do not check for fraud? *My fishing partner was an
investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. *When they found
fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. *They turn info over to
the Feds and Nada was done.
http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html
snerk
Yup, snerk on your program.
Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's
proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already
got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it.
Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense
on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about.
Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. *Is plans so far are about like
Kerry's I have a plan, plan. * Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give
everybody a $1000 check. *Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. *The
governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. *They going to increase
those also? *Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas
will cost a gallon then? *Stupid is your middle name.
Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate
icon and read it for yourself.
I tried. I went to barackobama.com
First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip
code.
Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I
did.
So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for
contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............
Sorry...........not the way I do business. *Be upfront about your
plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if
you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate.
Gee, that doesn't happen when I log on there. On the upper right of the
site is a box that sez SKIP DONATION, go right to website. Once there,
click on issues. Scroll down to health care.

No donations, no names, no video.

Sorry but it happened the first time I logged onto barackobama.com.
You must have already registered, which then takes you to his plea to
donate to him.

Nope.

Not registered there or on any other candidate's site.

So let's assume you are calling me a liar and my initial experience
with his website (the one you posted) never
happened....................tee-hee.........

Why would his initial page beg...err..........ask for a contribution
to his campaign instead of bringing you directly to his home page?

Earl of Warwich, Duke of Cornwall, Marquies of Anglesea, Sir Reginald P.
Smithers III Esq. LLC, STP. wrote:


NY or Chicago style?

Chicago style is NOT pizza.

Do you really want to start that debate? I suppose you prefer Sabrett
over Vienna Beef, too?

On Aug 26, 5:52*pm, JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:46*pm, hk wrote:





JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:39 pm, HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
news:z4SdnaVtNfAZ0inVnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d@comca st.com...
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
news:W5WdnY4DXMbZgCnVnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@com cast.com...
wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote:
hk wrote:
You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?
Here's the answer:
Nothing.
But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella.
That's what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one,
but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket
through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance
is costing me now.
Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
We are already paying for the best health care system in the world.
We
just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money,
we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of
everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right
now
on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have
to
fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's
ambition.
Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! *Dammit!
From Obama's site:
Barack Obama's Plan
Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All
* * * Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make
available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the
self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage
that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress.. The
Obama plan will have the following features:
Based on Medicare program? *Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the
claims and do not check for fraud? *My fishing partner was an
investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. *When they found
fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. *They turn info over to
the Feds and Nada was done.
http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html
snerk
Yup, snerk on your program.
Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's
proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already
got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it.
Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense
on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about.
Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. *Is plans so far are about like
Kerry's I have a plan, plan. * Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give
everybody a $1000 check. *Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. *The
governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. *They going to increase
those also? *Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas
will cost a gallon then? *Stupid is your middle name.
Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate
icon and read it for yourself.
I tried. I went to barackobama.com
First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip
code.
Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I
did.
So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for
contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda).............
Sorry...........not the way I do business. *Be upfront about your
plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if
you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate.
Gee, that doesn't happen when I log on there. On the upper right of the
site is a box that sez SKIP DONATION, go right to website. Once there,
click on issues. Scroll down to health care.

No donations, no names, no video.

Sorry but it happened the first time I logged onto barackobama.com.
You must have already registered, which then takes you to his plea to
donate to him.

Nope.

Not registered there or on any other candidate's site.

So let's assume you are calling me a liar and my initial experience
with his website (the one you posted) never
happened....................tee-hee.........

Why would his initial page beg...err..........ask for a contribution
to his campaign instead of bringing you directly to his home page?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

We know you are a liar, you have admitted to it here...

JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:46 pm, hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:39 pm, HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote:
hk wrote:
You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?
Here's the answer:
Nothing.
But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella.
That's what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one,
but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket
through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance
is costing me now.
Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
We are already paying for the best health care system in the world.
We
just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money,
we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of
everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right
now
on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have
to
fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's
ambition.
Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit!
From Obama's site:
Barack Obama's Plan
Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All
* Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make
available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the
self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage
that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The
Obama plan will have the following features:
Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the
claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an
investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found
fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to
the Feds and Nada was done.
http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html
snerk
Yup, snerk on your program.
Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's
proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already
got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it.
Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense
on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about.
Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. Is plans so far are about like
Kerry's I have a plan, plan. Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give
everybody a $1000 check. Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. The
governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. They going to increase
those also? Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas
will cost a gallon then? Stupid is your middle name.
Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate
icon and read it for yourself.
I tried. I went to barackobama.com
First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip
code.
Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I
did.
So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for
contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............
Sorry...........not the way I do business. Be upfront about your
plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if
you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate.
Gee, that doesn't happen when I log on there. On the upper right of the
site is a box that sez SKIP DONATION, go right to website. Once there,
click on issues. Scroll down to health care.
No donations, no names, no video.
Sorry but it happened the first time I logged onto barackobama.com.
You must have already registered, which then takes you to his plea to
donate to him.
Nope.

Not registered there or on any other candidate's site.

So let's assume you are calling me a liar and my initial experience
with his website (the one you posted) never
happened....................tee-hee.........

Why would his initial page beg...err..........ask for a contribution
to his campaign instead of bringing you directly to his home page?


As I said, if you look at the upper right hand corner, you can get right
off the beg page.

On Aug 26, 3:50 pm, JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 4:47 pm, hk wrote:



JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 4:32 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

m...

Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
TJ wrote:
hk wrote:
You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?
Here's the answer:
Nothing.
But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella. That's
what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one, but
I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket through
additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance is costing
me now.
Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
If you have top drawer health insurance, you shouldn't be facing serious
out of pocket expenses paying for your health issues. Since I have no
idea of your particulars, I couldn't possibly explain how certain
Democratic proposals would help you with your problem.
Further, it is apparent you have not the slightest understanding of the
health insurance proposals Obama and Clinton have been suggesting. If
you did, you wouldn't keep asking the same stupid questions. Study up
and get back to us.
Oh! There is a free lunch?
D'oh. Still stupid after all these years, hey, Bilious.
All these years that I thought there was no free lunch. Now the Dems are
going to give us free medical. Ain't America great.

Free health care, lower taxes, a $1000 check for everyone, more
government handouts, free this, free that, blah. blah,
blah.............

No plans to address any of those promises but they sound
great..........to the ignorant.

I defer to the cartoon JohnH posted, which btw is spot on.

Actually, there are plans...but you have to read them, eh? :)

Sounds interesting. So my wife and I will get free health care, a
$1,000 check, government handouts and lower taxes?

Tell me more. Explain also how these plans are funded.

Hey, that sounds good to me.

Where do i sign up?

On Aug 26, 4:33 pm, JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote:



Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
om...
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
news:W5WdnY4DXMbZgCnVnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast .com...
wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ wrote:

hk wrote:

You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help you
resolve your health issues?

Here's the answer:

Nothing.

But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella.
That's what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that one,
but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my pocket
through additional taxes, probably for more than my health insurance
is costing me now.

Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
We are already paying for the best health care system in the world.
We
just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more money,
we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take care of
everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending right
now
on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We have
to
fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the Democrat's
ambition.
Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit!

From Obama's site:

Barack Obama's Plan
Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All

* Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make
available a new national health plan to all Americans, including the
self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health coverage
that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The
Obama plan will have the following features:

Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the
claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an
investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found
fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info over to
the Feds and Nada was done.
http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html

snerk
Yup, snerk on your program.

Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's
proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've already
got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove it.

Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes sense
on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you about.

Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. Is plans so far are about like
Kerry's I have a plan, plan. Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give
everybody a $1000 check. Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit. The
governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. They going to increase
those also? Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think gas
will cost a gallon then? Stupid is your middle name.

Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate
icon and read it for yourself.

I tried. I went to barackobama.com

First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip
code.

Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I
did.

So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for
contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............

Sorry...........not the way I do business. Be upfront about your
plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if
you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate.

Paying to get into the movies? What a fund raiser!

So THAT"S how they plan to kick back to everybody!

"JimH" wrote in message
...
On Aug 26, 5:39 pm, HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
news:z4SdnaVtNfAZ0inVnZ2dnUVZ_tTinZ2d@comcast .com...
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
news:W5WdnY4DXMbZgCnVnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comca st.com...
wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ
wrote:
hk wrote:
You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help
you
resolve your health issues?
Here's the answer:
Nothing.
But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella.
That's what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my
health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that
one,
but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my
pocket
through additional taxes, probably for more than my health
insurance
is costing me now.
Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
We are already paying for the best health care system in the
world.
We
just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more
money,
we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take
care of
everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending
right
now
on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We
have
to
fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the
Democrat's
ambition.
Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit!
From Obama's site:
Barack Obama's Plan
Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All
* Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make
available a new national health plan to all Americans, including
the
self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health
coverage
that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The
Obama plan will have the following features:
Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the
claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an
investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found
fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info
over to
the Feds and Nada was done.
http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html
snerk
Yup, snerk on your program.
Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's
proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've
already
got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove
it.
Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes
sense
on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you
about.
Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. Is plans so far are about
like
Kerry's I have a plan, plan. Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give
everybody a $1000 check. Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit.
The
governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. They going to
increase
those also? Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think
gas
will cost a gallon then? Stupid is your middle name.
Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate
icon and read it for yourself.

I tried. I went to barackobama.com

First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip
code.

Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I
did.

So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for
contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............

Sorry...........not the way I do business. Be upfront about your
plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if
you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate.

Gee, that doesn't happen when I log on there. On the upper right of the
site is a box that sez SKIP DONATION, go right to website. Once there,
click on issues. Scroll down to health care.

No donations, no names, no video.

Sorry but it happened the first time I logged onto barackobama.com.
You must have already registered, which then takes you to his plea to
donate to him.

======================================

Maybe you didn't scroll down far enough where there is a *Skip Signup*
button.

What I got a kick out of was the following:

"Sign up now, and donate $15 or more to get the *official* Obama-Biden car
magnet."

D.Duck wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
On Aug 26, 5:39 pm, HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ
wrote:
hk wrote:
You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help
you
resolve your health issues?
Here's the answer:
Nothing.
But you concern yourself with your false little issues, fella.
That's what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my
health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that
one,
but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my
pocket
through additional taxes, probably for more than my health
insurance
is costing me now.
Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
We are already paying for the best health care system in the
world.
We
just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more
money,
we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take
care of
everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending
right
now
on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We
have
to
fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the
Democrat's
ambition.
Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit!
From Obama's site:
Barack Obama's Plan
Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All
* Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make
available a new national health plan to all Americans, including
the
self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health
coverage
that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress. The
Obama plan will have the following features:
Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the
claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an
investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found
fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info
over to
the Feds and Nada was done.
http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html
snerk
Yup, snerk on your program.
Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's
proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've
already
got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to prove
it.
Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes
sense
on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you
about.
Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. Is plans so far are about
like
Kerry's I have a plan, plan. Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to give
everybody a $1000 check. Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons profit.
The
governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. They going to
increase
those also? Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think
gas
will cost a gallon then? Stupid is your middle name.
Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate
icon and read it for yourself.
I tried. I went to barackobama.com
First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip
code.
Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I
did.
So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for
contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............
Sorry...........not the way I do business. Be upfront about your
plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if
you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate.
Gee, that doesn't happen when I log on there. On the upper right of the
site is a box that sez SKIP DONATION, go right to website. Once there,
click on issues. Scroll down to health care.

No donations, no names, no video.

Sorry but it happened the first time I logged onto barackobama.com.
You must have already registered, which then takes you to his plea to
donate to him.

======================================

Maybe you didn't scroll down far enough where there is a *Skip Signup*
button.

What I got a kick out of was the following:

"Sign up now, and donate $15 or more to get the *official* Obama-Biden car
magnet."




I clicked on the McCain site and was offered an autographed photo of
Jesus Christ or a french fry that looked like Jesus, from the
Evangelical Subsupport Group of the Mindless Minions for more Bush.

Problem is, the photo looked like a white guy with blue eyes and blond
hair.

:)

"JimH" wrote in message
...
On Aug 26, 5:46 pm, hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:39 pm, HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ
wrote:
hk wrote:
You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to
help you
resolve your health issues?
Here's the answer:
Nothing.
But you concern yourself with your false little issues,
fella.
That's what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my
health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on
that one,
but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my
pocket
through additional taxes, probably for more than my health
insurance
is costing me now.
Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
We are already paying for the best health care system in the
world.
We
just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more
money,
we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take
care of
everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending
right
now
on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We
have
to
fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the
Democrat's
ambition.
Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit!
From Obama's site:
Barack Obama's Plan
Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All
* Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make
available a new national health plan to all Americans,
including the
self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health
coverage
that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress.
The
Obama plan will have the following features:
Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of
the
claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an
investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found
fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info
over to
the Feds and Nada was done.
http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html
snerk
Yup, snerk on your program.
Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's
proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've
already
got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to
prove it.
Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes
sense
on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you
about.
Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. Is plans so far are about
like
Kerry's I have a plan, plan. Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to
give
everybody a $1000 check. Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons
profit. The
governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. They going to
increase
those also? Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think
gas
will cost a gallon then? Stupid is your middle name.
Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate
icon and read it for yourself.
I tried. I went to barackobama.com
First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip
code.
Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I
did.
So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for
contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............
Sorry...........not the way I do business. Be upfront about your
plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if
you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate.
Gee, that doesn't happen when I log on there. On the upper right of the
site is a box that sez SKIP DONATION, go right to website. Once there,
click on issues. Scroll down to health care.

No donations, no names, no video.

Sorry but it happened the first time I logged onto barackobama.com.
You must have already registered, which then takes you to his plea to
donate to him.

Nope.

Not registered there or on any other candidate's site.

So let's assume you are calling me a liar and my initial experience
with his website (the one you posted) never
happened....................tee-hee.........

Why would his initial page beg...err..........ask for a contribution
to his campaign instead of bringing you directly to his home page?

===========================

The first time I put barackobama.com in the address bar I was redirected to:

https://donate.barackobama.com/page/.../splashsignup/

Subsequent barackobama.com entries went to barackobama.com.

I'm sure this is accomplished using cookies.

"hk" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
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On Aug 26, 5:39 pm, HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 26, 5:00 pm, hk wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Calif Bill wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
wrote:
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:43:53 -0400, TJ
wrote:
hk wrote:
You're hopeless. What are the Republicans going to do to help
you
resolve your health issues?
Here's the answer:
Nothing.
But you concern yourself with your false little issues,
fella.
That's what's important to you.
And how are the Democrats going to pay for helping me with my
health
issues, hmmm? I'm still waiting for an answer from you on that
one,
but I think I know what it is. They'll do it by picking my
pocket
through additional taxes, probably for more than my health
insurance
is costing me now.
Still looking for a little substance,
TJ
We are already paying for the best health care system in the
world.
We
just aren't getting what we are paying for. We don't need more
money,
we just need to spend it on a system that works. We can take
care of
everybody with excellent care for about what we are spending
right
now
on health care that helps just a portion of the population. We
have
to
fix the health care system itself. I believe that is the
Democrat's
ambition.
Now you've done it...you've let the cat out of the bag! Dammit!
From Obama's site:
Barack Obama's Plan
Quality, Affordable and Portable Coverage for All
* Obama's Plan to Cover Uninsured Americans: Obama will make
available a new national health plan to all Americans, including
the
self-employed and small businesses, to buy affordable health
coverage
that is similar to the plan available to members of Congress.
The
Obama plan will have the following features:
Based on Medicare program? Lower overhead, as they pay 95% of the
claims and do not check for fraud? My fishing partner was an
investigator for the state AG, on MediCal fraud. When they found
fraud, it usually also included Medicare fraud. They turn info
over to
the Feds and Nada was done.
http://www.ncpa.org/~ncpa/health/pdh5.html
snerk
Yup, snerk on your program.
Please, Bilious, you obviously have no understanding of Barack's
proposals, and it shows every time you post your nonsense. You've
already
got stupid covered...no need to waste any more effort trying to
prove it.
Try reading Barack's proposals and then offer criticism that makes
sense
on the overall concepts, not something your fishing buddy told you
about.
Why don't you paraphrase his plans for us. Is plans so far are about
like
Kerry's I have a plan, plan. Tax the windfall profits of Exxon to
give
everybody a $1000 check. Lets figure that is 3 years of Exxons
profit. The
governments now gets 3 times Exxons profit in taxes. They going to
increase
those also? Add an extra $30 billion in taxes, how much do you think
gas
will cost a gallon then? Stupid is your middle name.
Why don't you just go to barackobama.com and click on the appropriate
icon and read it for yourself.
I tried. I went to barackobama.com
First I was asked to register with my name, email address and zip
code.
Yep, one can easily get around that by giving false info..........as I
did.
So.........after doing so I was sent to a page asking for
contributions and asking me to watch a video (propaganda)............
Sorry...........not the way I do business. Be upfront about your
plans, proposed programs and facts about your campaign...........if
you cannot do that you are not my type of candidate.
Gee, that doesn't happen when I log on there. On the upper right of the
site is a box that sez SKIP DONATION, go right to website. Once there,
click on issues. Scroll down to health care.

No donations, no names, no video.

Sorry but it happened the first time I logged onto barackobama.com.
You must have already registered, which then takes you to his plea to
donate to him.

======================================

Maybe you didn't scroll down far enough where there is a *Skip Signup*
button.

What I got a kick out of was the following:

"Sign up now, and donate $15 or more to get the *official* Obama-Biden
car magnet."


I clicked on the McCain site and was offered an autographed photo of Jesus
Christ or a french fry that looked like Jesus, from the Evangelical
Subsupport Group of the Mindless Minions for more Bush.

Problem is, the photo looked like a white guy with blue eyes and blond
hair.

:)

Both of them will have same/similar stuff on their web site, It's politics,
man.