On Aug 20, 8:21*pm, hk wrote:
TJ wrote:
hk wrote:
Don White wrote:
"TJ" wrote in message
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You know, if Harry is a lobsterman, you'd think he'd appreciate rich
people more than he does. He depends on them, whether he knows it or
not. Poor people can't afford lobster. I know I can't.

TJ

Lobsterman??
You've been wasting too much time listening to the Dwarfs.

I'm a lobster eater.

My mistake, I guess. "herring" said:

In any case, you shouldn't argue with Harry. Get him to take you on his
lobster boat instead.

and not having been here long, I assumed it to be accurate. Live and
learn...

TJ

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What????? Youi've never claimed to own a 36' Zimmerman like lobster
boat??

On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:10:32 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


Perhaps in your business, but in many sectors, construction for
instance, there is a large "underground" economy. Not only are
illegals hired, but many citizens are paid under the table. Estimates
of illegal immigrants are 10-15 million. They are coming here to make
a living. Somebody is hiring them.


I realize that and have witnessed it. But, they are not typically
"corporations". They are often small time construction or landscaper
type businesses that simply don't show up on the radar screen.

Eisboch

OK, now we are on the same page. I would agree larger corporations would
be foolhardy to actively employ illegals. I suspect it is done
peripherally as in the Walmart case, but rarely outright. I would also
add, the illegal business is becoming quite a business. Forged
documents, stolen Social Security cards, etc. can make it difficult to
tell who is illegal. Many companies will accept bogus IDs with a wink
and a nod, but then others, trying to be legal, can be fooled.

wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:10:32 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


Perhaps in your business, but in many sectors, construction for
instance, there is a large "underground" economy. Not only are
illegals hired, but many citizens are paid under the table. Estimates
of illegal immigrants are 10-15 million. They are coming here to make
a living. Somebody is hiring them.

I realize that and have witnessed it. But, they are not typically
"corporations". They are often small time construction or landscaper
type businesses that simply don't show up on the radar screen.

Eisboch

OK, now we are on the same page. I would agree larger corporations would
be foolhardy to actively employ illegals. I suspect it is done
peripherally as in the Walmart case, but rarely outright. I would also
add, the illegal business is becoming quite a business. Forged
documents, stolen Social Security cards, etc. can make it difficult to
tell who is illegal. Many companies will accept bogus IDs with a wink
and a nod, but then others, trying to be legal, can be fooled.


Many large corporations, like wal-mart, hire contractors to get around
the law.

"hk" wrote in message
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wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:10:32 -0400, Eisboch wrote:



I realize that and have witnessed it. But, they are not typically
"corporations". They are often small time construction or landscaper
type businesses that simply don't show up on the radar screen.

Eisboch

OK, now we are on the same page. I would agree larger corporations would
be foolhardy to actively employ illegals. I suspect it is done
peripherally as in the Walmart case, but rarely outright. I would also
add, the illegal business is becoming quite a business. Forged
documents, stolen Social Security cards, etc. can make it difficult to
tell who is illegal. Many companies will accept bogus IDs with a wink
and a nod, but then others, trying to be legal, can be fooled.




Many large corporations, like wal-mart, hire contractors to get around the
law.

Good grief Harry, you are going to wear out your anti-big corporation drum.

That's *not* the problem.

Eisboch

On Aug 21, 9:08*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

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wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:10:32 -0400, Eisboch wrote:

I realize that and have witnessed it. * But, they are not typically
"corporations". *They are often small time construction or landscaper
type businesses that simply don't show up on the radar screen.

Eisboch

OK, now we are on the same page. *I would agree larger corporations would
be foolhardy to actively employ illegals. *I suspect it is done
peripherally as in the Walmart case, but rarely outright. *I would also
add, the illegal business is becoming quite a business. *Forged
documents, stolen Social Security cards, etc. can make it difficult to
tell who is illegal. *Many companies will accept bogus IDs with a wink
and a nod, but then others, trying to be legal, can be fooled.

Many large corporations, like wal-mart, hire contractors to get around the
law.

Good grief Harry, you are going to wear out your anti-big corporation drum.

That's *not* the problem.

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Big corp is fine with wafa, as long as everyone is paying those weekly
union dues.. That's what unions do. They typically slow down the work
force so they can hire more dues payers.. Remember, every union member
means money, that is the only way unions make money. .Bodies, moving
or otherwise..

Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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wrote:
On Thu, 21 Aug 2008 08:10:32 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


I realize that and have witnessed it. But, they are not typically
"corporations". They are often small time construction or landscaper
type businesses that simply don't show up on the radar screen.

Eisboch
OK, now we are on the same page. I would agree larger corporations would
be foolhardy to actively employ illegals. I suspect it is done
peripherally as in the Walmart case, but rarely outright. I would also
add, the illegal business is becoming quite a business. Forged
documents, stolen Social Security cards, etc. can make it difficult to
tell who is illegal. Many companies will accept bogus IDs with a wink
and a nod, but then others, trying to be legal, can be fooled.



Many large corporations, like wal-mart, hire contractors to get around the
law.

Good grief Harry, you are going to wear out your anti-big corporation drum.

That's *not* the problem.

Eisboch




I think I am a bit closer to the labor force than you are. There are
corporations all over this country who use contractors to get around
immigration law and wage-hour law.

"hk" wrote in message
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I think I am a bit closer to the labor force than you are.



Union labor force maybe.

Small business employees ..... no way.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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I think I am a bit closer to the labor force than you are.



Union labor force maybe.

Small business employees ..... no way.

Eisboch




I doubt it. I frequently go out on organizing calls with union reps, and
the companies and employees we visit are not members of unions.

On Aug 21, 11:09*am, hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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I think I am a bit closer to the labor force than you are.

Union labor force maybe.

Small business employees ..... no way.

Eisboch

I doubt it. I frequently go out on organizing calls with union reps, and
the companies and employees we visit are not members of unions.

Must be tagging along with your wife again.

On Aug 21, 11:09*am, hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...

I think I am a bit closer to the labor force than you are.

Union labor force maybe.

Small business employees ..... no way.

Eisboch

I doubt it. I frequently go out on organizing calls with union reps, and
the companies and employees we visit are not members of unions.

Yeah, and all those small business owners are of course willing to be
open with you and your well dressed thugs who want to suck off of
their hard work and destroy the trust they have built with their
employees over the years.... LOL..