Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:31:32 -0400, John H.
salmonremovebait@gmaildotcom wrote:

Now, if I'd been
a Marine or a Sailor, then I'd be thinking 'payback' time
Pfft...just being a Marine is payment enough.

Now Squids - well, they should be paying us to serve. :)


You're just jealous because the IQ requirements for the Navy are so much
higher.

Eisboch



Than what?

"hk" wrote in message
...

D.Duck wrote:


Making the rich richer...

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/lo...cle1881847.ece


It's a lot easier to *care* for 4.5M than 300M people.



IF your point is that the Norwegian economy creates millionaires AND takes
care of the health care and other important needs of the Norwegian people,
too, then I have no argument.

In this country, it seems, just the needs of the rich are considered
really important.


If you read the Duck's link, you would note that Norway's wealth and
economic strength has developed mostly since 1969 .... right after the
discovery of huge, offshore oil reserves.


Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...

D.Duck wrote:

Making the rich richer...

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/lo...cle1881847.ece


It's a lot easier to *care* for 4.5M than 300M people.



IF your point is that the Norwegian economy creates millionaires AND takes
care of the health care and other important needs of the Norwegian people,
too, then I have no argument.

In this country, it seems, just the needs of the rich are considered
really important.


If you read the Duck's link, you would note that Norway's wealth and
economic strength has developed mostly since 1969 .... right after the
discovery of huge, offshore oil reserves.


Eisboch




So what? The point is, the Norwegians are using their national wealth
properly, to ensure that all Norwegians have the necessities and a
strong social net to help out when they need help.

In this country, our national wealth is used to make the wealthy wealthier.

We're sliding downhill in this country. A growing number of Americans,
millions of Americans, are losing their jobs, their health care, their
houses, their retirement, their futures.

But the rich...they are getting richer.

I won't be around to see it, but at some point in the future, there will
be heads on pikes in this country, literally or figuratively.




--
I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do
something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do
the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I
should do, by the grace of God, I will do.

— Edward Everett Hale (1822-1909)

hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
...

D.Duck wrote:

Making the rich richer...

http://www.aftenposten.no/english/lo...cle1881847.ece


It's a lot easier to *care* for 4.5M than 300M people.



IF your point is that the Norwegian economy creates millionaires AND
takes care of the health care and other important needs of the
Norwegian people, too, then I have no argument.

In this country, it seems, just the needs of the rich are considered
really important.


If you read the Duck's link, you would note that Norway's wealth and
economic strength has developed mostly since 1969 .... right after the
discovery of huge, offshore oil reserves.


Eisboch




So what? The point is, the Norwegians are using their national wealth
properly, to ensure that all Norwegians have the necessities and a
strong social net to help out when they need help.

This is your opinion and your opinion only. The many Norwegians I know
have all left Norway for jobs and careers outside of the country. Their
dreams and aspirations could not be satisfied within the current rigid
structured society that Norway has become.

In this country, our national wealth is used to make the wealthy wealthier.

I agree that a job as mayor, governor, and legislator has turned into a
way to redirect the tax payers money, which is set aside for the public
good, into the coffers of your friends and your own bank accounts.

We're sliding downhill in this country. A growing number of Americans,
millions of Americans, are losing their jobs, their health care, their
houses, their retirement, their futures.

Greedy *******s all. From the guy turning a screw on the manufacturing
floor to the CEO who employs 250,000.

But the rich...they are getting richer.

Everyone in the USA is rich compared to the standard of living of the
rest of the world.

I won't be around to see it, but at some point in the future, there will
be heads on pikes in this country, literally or figuratively.

Civilizations come and civilizations go, what makes you think any of
them will survive in perpetuity?

"BAR" wrote in message
...

hk wrote:



So what? The point is, the Norwegians are using their national wealth
properly, to ensure that all Norwegians have the necessities and a strong
social net to help out when they need help.



This is your opinion and your opinion only. The many Norwegians I know
have all left Norway for jobs and careers outside of the country. Their
dreams and aspirations could not be satisfied within the current rigid
structured society that Norway has become.



http://www.borealforest.org/world/ma...ay_lemming.htm

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
...

hk wrote:

So what? The point is, the Norwegians are using their national wealth
properly, to ensure that all Norwegians have the necessities and a strong
social net to help out when they need help.


This is your opinion and your opinion only. The many Norwegians I know
have all left Norway for jobs and careers outside of the country. Their
dreams and aspirations could not be satisfied within the current rigid
structured society that Norway has become.



http://www.borealforest.org/world/ma...ay_lemming.htm

Eisboch




Wow...Bert still posts here, and is still advocating for greed. What a
surprise.

Until you had reposted his post, Richard, I thought he had disappeared
entirely.

Good filtering... :)





--
I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do
something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do
the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I
should do, by the grace of God, I will do.

— Edward Everett Hale (1822-1909)

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 07:44:28 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:



It's a lot easier to *care* for 4.5M than 300M people.

You do know that every "first world" country in the world except the
U.S.has universal health care, don't you?
No sense dwelling on 4.5M when the real number is many hundreds of
millions. None of those many countries are going bankrupt as far as I
know.
My wife wasn't too happy about the value of the dollar on her recent
trip to Poland though.
Anyway, you can google universal health care, and find that wiki has a
pretty good overview of the different systems.
Pick what suits you.

--Vic

Vic Smith wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 07:44:28 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


It's a lot easier to *care* for 4.5M than 300M people.

You do know that every "first world" country in the world except the
U.S.has universal health care, don't you?
No sense dwelling on 4.5M when the real number is many hundreds of
millions. None of those many countries are going bankrupt as far as I
know.
My wife wasn't too happy about the value of the dollar on her recent
trip to Poland though.
Anyway, you can google universal health care, and find that wiki has a
pretty good overview of the different systems.
Pick what suits you.

--Vic


Almost every other "first world" country has abolished capital
punishment, too. Not so in the United States, the country that after
eight years of you know who is moving backwards as quickly as possible.





--
I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do
something. And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do
the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I
should do, by the grace of God, I will do.

— Edward Everett Hale (1822-1909)

"hk" wrote in message

[snipped]

I won't be around to see it, but at some point in the future, there will
be heads on pikes in this country, literally or figuratively.


Right, though for the wrong reason. We need a revolt against a repressive
system of taxation, called by the liberals "progressive".

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 07:44:28 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:



It's a lot easier to *care* for 4.5M than 300M people.

You do know that every "first world" country in the world except the
U.S.has universal health care, don't you?
No sense dwelling on 4.5M when the real number is many hundreds of
millions. None of those many countries are going bankrupt as far as I
know.
My wife wasn't too happy about the value of the dollar on her recent
trip to Poland though.
Anyway, you can google universal health care, and find that wiki has a
pretty good overview of the different systems.
Pick what suits you.

--Vic

But what is the quality of the universal health care offered in other
countries? I personally know several Canadians that come to the US for
treatment that they would have to wait what they consider an inordinate
length of time for in their home country.