On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:33:15 -0400, John H. wrote:


It's cheaper too. US health care cost amount to over 15% GDP. Canada's
are less than 10% GDP.

Could it be cheaper because it's cheap?

It could be cheaper because it works more efficiently. You seem to
forget, this country isn't barbaric. We *do* pay for indigent and
uninsured health care, but it's usually at the emergency room. In this
country, the uninsured usually do not have a primary care practitioner to
deal with ailments before they become expensive problems.

And, if you mean by cheap, it is of lesser quality, you would be wrong.
By objective standards, life expectancy, infant mortality, etc.
countries with universal health care surpass us. We may have the best
emergency health care on this planet, but we do not have the best health
care system, just the most expensive.

wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:33:15 -0400, John H. wrote:


It's cheaper too. US health care cost amount to over 15% GDP. Canada's
are less than 10% GDP.
Could it be cheaper because it's cheap?

It could be cheaper because it works more efficiently. You seem to
forget, this country isn't barbaric. We *do* pay for indigent and
uninsured health care, but it's usually at the emergency room. In this
country, the uninsured usually do not have a primary care practitioner to
deal with ailments before they become expensive problems.

And, if you mean by cheap, it is of lesser quality, you would be wrong.
By objective standards, life expectancy, infant mortality, etc.
countries with universal health care surpass us. We may have the best
emergency health care on this planet, but we do not have the best health
care system, just the most expensive.



In indigent care...we sort of have this to a very limited degree in
some areas of the country, and for some illnesses, but there are many in
need of serious or long-term treatment who are simply turned down or
turned away. This is especially true in the arena of mental illness and
treatment for addictions.

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:51:30 -0400, hk wrote:


In indigent care...we sort of have this to a very limited degree in
some areas of the country, and for some illnesses, but there are many in
need of serious or long-term treatment who are simply turned down or
turned away. This is especially true in the arena of mental illness and
treatment for addictions.

If you read the fine print, many who think they are insured, aren't for
many mental illnesses. Insured or not, when dealing with health care,
many of us are in for a wake-up call when health care is needed.

"TJ" wrote in message
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snip....
You know, if Harry is a lobsterman, you'd think he'd appreciate rich
people more than he does. He depends on them, whether he knows it or not.
Poor people can't afford lobster. I know I can't.

TJ


Lobsterman??
You've been wasting too much time listening to the Dwarfs.

On Aug 19, 10:34*pm, TJ wrote:
John H. wrote:
Sounds like you've got the situation well in hand. Now they'll be talking
about the 27 dwarfs.

What business are you in?

My brother and I are the third generation to own and operate a family
farm in Upstate NY. We sell vegetables to anybody who stops at our farm
stand, and hay to as many rich horse owners as we can find, as well as
some oats and a few beef cattle. While the prices we get for stuff have
gone up because of increased demand, our costs (fuel, fertilizer,
property taxes, health insurance, etc.) have gone up even more. Still,
as long as the weather cooperates, we do OK.

You know, if Harry is a lobsterman, you'd think he'd appreciate rich
people more than he does. He depends on them, whether he knows it or
not. Poor people can't afford lobster. I know I can't.

TJ

Where in upstate NY are you?

On Aug 19, 3:57*pm, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:30:10 -0400, John H.
salmonremovebait@gmaildotcom wrote:

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:57:55 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:31:32 -0400, John H.
salmonremovebait@gmaildotcom wrote:

Now, if I'd been
a Marine or a Sailor, then I'd be thinking 'payback' time
Pfft...just being a Marine is payment enough.

Now Squids - well, they should be paying us to serve. *:)
You're just jealous because the IQ requirements for the Navy are so much
higher.
That *was* a good one!

...so much higher than what?

The Army. *:)

What are the IQ requirements these days? Apparently the "standards" keep
getting lowered for military service.- Hide quoted text -

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No they don't liar.

Don White wrote:
"TJ" wrote in message
...
snip....
You know, if Harry is a lobsterman, you'd think he'd appreciate rich
people more than he does. He depends on them, whether he knows it or not.
Poor people can't afford lobster. I know I can't.

TJ


Lobsterman??
You've been wasting too much time listening to the Dwarfs.




I'm a lobster eater.

"hk" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"TJ" wrote in message
...
snip....
You know, if Harry is a lobsterman, you'd think he'd appreciate rich
people more than he does. He depends on them, whether he knows it or
not. Poor people can't afford lobster. I know I can't.

TJ


Lobsterman??
You've been wasting too much time listening to the Dwarfs.


I'm a lobster eater.


I used to be a lobster eater. No more. Same with crabs, founder or any
other bottom feeding whatever.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
"TJ" wrote in message
...
snip....
You know, if Harry is a lobsterman, you'd think he'd appreciate rich
people more than he does. He depends on them, whether he knows it or
not. Poor people can't afford lobster. I know I can't.

TJ

Lobsterman??
You've been wasting too much time listening to the Dwarfs.

I'm a lobster eater.


I used to be a lobster eater. No more. Same with crabs, founder or any
other bottom feeding whatever.

Eisboch



No shellfish? No flounder? Bad batch?

"hk" wrote in message
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I'm a lobster eater.


I used to be a lobster eater. No more. Same with crabs, founder or
any other bottom feeding whatever.

Eisboch

No shellfish? No flounder? Bad batch?



No longer worth the risk of a bad batch. I saw someone who got sick from
bad clams. Not pretty.

Eisboch