On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 07:59:59 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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What struck me was how unbalanced the boat looks on dry land - all
that cabin up front, huge stern deck and then the engines. It just
looks unbalanced. I'm sure it's a sound boat - Parker doesn't build
junk boats - it just looks odd.

Yeah, odd is a much better word.

It does, but then again, in all fairness, boats look a lot different *in*
the water than they do on the hard or on a hauler.

They also shrink.

Good points.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 02:08:52 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
I realize there's not many here interested in boats, but there might be a
few lurkers who are.

This is a factory-supplied photo of a new offshore *fishing* boat that has
just been launched by Parker. It is hull #1 of actual production.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...railerboat.jpg


Yes, those are twin Yamaha F350s on the bracket. The boat is a 34-footer
and does about 55 mph at WOT.

I don't know what the market is for this boat. It certainly isn't a volume
product.

The interior is far less Spartan than is usual with a Parker, but it is
still a fisherman's craft, so it isn't like your typical bubble boat in
the main or forward cabin. The head, sink and shower are enclosed, there's
a vee-berth forward, there's an actual mechanical/plumbing room.
Main cabin has a command chair and a large area for electronics. There's a
wrap around bench and table, and a sink, stove, refrigerator/freezer.
That's what is easily visible.

The cockpit has a large and pretty fancy (for Parker) 2nd command console.

Pretty hefty trailer and tow vehicle, probably NOT an F150.
I know you like Parkers, which is fine, but to me, this simply looks like a
big, obese and overgrown version of the 25 footer.

The huge Yamaha outboards further reinforce that image. It might look
better if it was set up with twin inboard diesels. Some larger boats, like
a Yellowfin 34 or 36 CC offshore fishing boat look natural with big
outboards and they preserve space for fishing and gear. IMO, the Parker
just doesn't look right with twin monsterous outboards.

What struck me was how unbalanced the boat looks on dry land - all
that cabin up front, huge stern deck and then the engines. It just
looks unbalanced. I'm sure it's a sound boat - Parker doesn't build
junk boats - it just looks odd.

Yeah, odd is a much better word.


It's just a bit bigger than you are used to seeing in that size boat.

Put it another way...if I removed the center console from my Parker, I
believe your Ranger would fit inside and you wouldn't see your boat's
gunnels, and our boats are about the same length.

These are pilothouse style boats, and very traditional in proportions.
The cockpit is huge so as to accommodate the largest possible number of
fishermen. You obviously prefer a different style. I've always liked
workboat type boats.

On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 08:16:31 -0400, hk wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 02:08:52 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
I realize there's not many here interested in boats, but there might be a
few lurkers who are.

This is a factory-supplied photo of a new offshore *fishing* boat that has
just been launched by Parker. It is hull #1 of actual production.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...railerboat.jpg


Yes, those are twin Yamaha F350s on the bracket. The boat is a 34-footer
and does about 55 mph at WOT.

I don't know what the market is for this boat. It certainly isn't a volume
product.

The interior is far less Spartan than is usual with a Parker, but it is
still a fisherman's craft, so it isn't like your typical bubble boat in
the main or forward cabin. The head, sink and shower are enclosed, there's
a vee-berth forward, there's an actual mechanical/plumbing room.
Main cabin has a command chair and a large area for electronics. There's a
wrap around bench and table, and a sink, stove, refrigerator/freezer.
That's what is easily visible.

The cockpit has a large and pretty fancy (for Parker) 2nd command console.

Pretty hefty trailer and tow vehicle, probably NOT an F150.
I know you like Parkers, which is fine, but to me, this simply looks like a
big, obese and overgrown version of the 25 footer.

The huge Yamaha outboards further reinforce that image. It might look
better if it was set up with twin inboard diesels. Some larger boats, like
a Yellowfin 34 or 36 CC offshore fishing boat look natural with big
outboards and they preserve space for fishing and gear. IMO, the Parker
just doesn't look right with twin monsterous outboards.

What struck me was how unbalanced the boat looks on dry land - all
that cabin up front, huge stern deck and then the engines. It just
looks unbalanced. I'm sure it's a sound boat - Parker doesn't build
junk boats - it just looks odd.

Yeah, odd is a much better word.

It's just a bit bigger than you are used to seeing in that size boat.

True enough.

Put it another way...if I removed the center console from my Parker, I
believe your Ranger would fit inside and you wouldn't see your boat's
gunnels, and our boats are about the same length.

Nope - they would match up pretty well - the only thing your boat that
makes it different is that it's a little longer than mine while mine
is marginally wider (8'8" vs 8'6") and your sides may be slightly
taller from the chine to the top of the gunwale.

Here's an interesting exercise for us to try - measure from the keel
to the highest point of the gunwale, measure the broadest points
gunwale-to-gunwale, and the overall length. Use the following formula
- Length times breadth (side-to-side at it's broadest point) times
depth (keel to highest point on gunwale) times .67 and divide that by
100.

I'll bet your GT and mine are within 5% of each other.

These are pilothouse style boats, and very traditional in proportions.
The cockpit is huge so as to accommodate the largest possible number of
fishermen. You obviously prefer a different style. I've always liked
workboat type boats.

Totally agree with that. As Eisboch says, to each their own.

From guys I've talked to, Parkers have their following - which is cool
- every guy has their favorite (or dream) boat. I know guys who only
buy Grady's and wouldn't consider any other boat. Same with a ton of
other vessels. And Parker does build a quality boat - over and over
and over again which is my main complaint - there are marginal
differences from year-to-year - the styling just hasn't been updated.

Consider the venerable Novi hull as an example - the base style and
function stays the same, but there are differences depending on the
manufacturer. You can look at a classic Novi hull and say, yep -
that's a Novi hull, but you can tell differences between hulls by how
long the forefoot is, the tumblehome at the stern - bow flare, etc.
That's a proven hull design which has been adapted and changed mainly
for style reasons - the base hull design has never changed. I've seen
different year Parkers and they all look the same - no changes.

I just don't like static designs, but it works for you and that's
great.

On Aug 6, 11:02*am, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 08:16:31 -0400, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 02:08:52 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
om...
I realize there's not many here interested in boats, but there might be a
few lurkers who are.

This is a factory-supplied photo of a new offshore *fishing* boat that has
just been launched by Parker. It is hull #1 of actual production.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...neous/newtrail....

Yes, those are twin Yamaha F350s on the bracket. The boat is a 34-footer
and does about 55 mph at WOT.

I don't know what the market is for this boat. It certainly isn't a volume
product.

The interior is far less Spartan than is usual with a Parker, but it is
still a fisherman's craft, so it isn't like your typical bubble boat in
the main or forward cabin. The head, sink and shower are enclosed, there's
a vee-berth forward, there's an actual mechanical/plumbing room.
Main cabin has a command chair and a large area for electronics. There's a
wrap around bench and table, and a sink, stove, refrigerator/freezer..
That's what is easily visible.

The cockpit has a large and pretty fancy (for Parker) 2nd command console.

Pretty hefty trailer and tow vehicle, probably NOT an F150.
I know you like Parkers, which is fine, but to me, this simply looks like a
big, obese and overgrown version of the 25 footer.

The huge Yamaha outboards further reinforce that image. *It might look
better if it was set up with twin inboard diesels. *Some larger boats, like
a Yellowfin 34 or 36 CC offshore fishing boat look natural with big
outboards and they preserve space for fishing and gear. *IMO, the Parker
just doesn't look right with twin monsterous outboards.

What struck me was how unbalanced the boat looks on dry land - all
that cabin up front, huge stern deck and then the engines. *It just
looks unbalanced. *I'm sure it's a sound boat - Parker doesn't build
junk boats - it just looks odd.

Yeah, odd is a much better word.

It's just a bit bigger than you are used to seeing in that size boat.

True enough.

Put it another way...if I removed the center console from my Parker, I
believe your Ranger would fit inside and you wouldn't see your boat's
gunnels, and our boats are about the same length.

Nope - they would match up pretty well - the only thing your boat that
makes it different is that it's a little longer than mine while mine
is marginally wider (8'8" vs 8'6") and your sides may be slightly
taller from the chine to the top of the gunwale.

Here's an interesting exercise for us to try - measure from the keel
to the highest point of the gunwale, measure the broadest points
gunwale-to-gunwale, and the overall length. *Use the following formula
- Length times breadth (side-to-side at it's broadest point) times
depth (keel to highest point on gunwale) times .67 and divide that by
100.

I'll bet your GT and mine are within 5% of each other.

These are pilothouse style boats, and very traditional in proportions.
The cockpit is huge so as to accommodate the largest possible number of
fishermen. You obviously prefer a different style. I've always liked
workboat type boats.

Totally agree with that. *As Eisboch says, to each their own.

From guys I've talked to, Parkers have their following - which is cool
- every guy has their favorite (or dream) boat. *I know guys who only
buy Grady's and wouldn't consider any other boat. Same with a ton of
other vessels. *And Parker does build a quality boat - over and over
and over again which is my main complaint - there are marginal
differences from year-to-year - the styling just hasn't been updated.

Consider the venerable Novi hull as an example - the base style and
function stays the same, but there are differences depending on the
manufacturer. *You can look at a classic Novi hull and say, yep -
that's a Novi hull, but you can tell differences between hulls by how
long the forefoot is, the tumblehome at the stern - bow flare, etc.
That's a proven hull design which has been adapted and changed mainly
for style reasons - the base hull design has never changed. *I've seen
different year Parkers and they all look the same - no changes.

I just don't like static designs, but it works for you and that's
great.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Everything about Harry is "static". One look at him will tell you
that.

On Aug 5, 11:51*pm, hk wrote:
I realize there's not many here interested in boats, but there might be
a few lurkers who are.

This is a factory-supplied photo of a new offshore *fishing* boat that
has just been launched by Parker. It is hull #1 of actual production.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...neous/newtrail...

Yes, those are twin Yamaha F350s on the bracket. The boat is a 34-footer
and does about 55 mph at WOT.

I don't know what the market is for this boat. It certainly isn't a
volume product.

The interior is far less Spartan than is usual with a Parker, but it is
still a fisherman's craft, so it isn't like your typical bubble boat in
the main or forward cabin. The head, sink and shower are enclosed,
there's a vee-berth forward, there's an actual mechanical/plumbing room.
Main cabin has a command chair and a large area for electronics. There's
a wrap around bench and table, and a sink, stove, refrigerator/freezer.
That's what is easily visible.

The cockpit has a large and pretty fancy (for Parker) 2nd command console..

Pretty hefty trailer and tow vehicle, probably NOT an F150.

harry, that boat looks like a tug sitting on the back of that trailer,
and the outboards are huge comapred to the truck -tractor itself.

Tim wrote:
On Aug 5, 11:51 pm, hk wrote:
I realize there's not many here interested in boats, but there might be
a few lurkers who are.

This is a factory-supplied photo of a new offshore *fishing* boat that
has just been launched by Parker. It is hull #1 of actual production.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...neous/newtrail...

Yes, those are twin Yamaha F350s on the bracket. The boat is a 34-footer
and does about 55 mph at WOT.

I don't know what the market is for this boat. It certainly isn't a
volume product.

The interior is far less Spartan than is usual with a Parker, but it is
still a fisherman's craft, so it isn't like your typical bubble boat in
the main or forward cabin. The head, sink and shower are enclosed,
there's a vee-berth forward, there's an actual mechanical/plumbing room.
Main cabin has a command chair and a large area for electronics. There's
a wrap around bench and table, and a sink, stove, refrigerator/freezer.
That's what is easily visible.

The cockpit has a large and pretty fancy (for Parker) 2nd command console.

Pretty hefty trailer and tow vehicle, probably NOT an F150.

harry, that boat looks like a tug sitting on the back of that trailer,
and the outboards are huge comapred to the truck -tractor itself.


Yep...those V8 outboards are enormous, no doubt about it.

On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:51:56 -0400, hk wrote:

I realize there's not many here interested in boats, but there might be
a few lurkers who are.

This is a factory-supplied photo of a new offshore *fishing* boat that
has just been launched by Parker. It is hull #1 of actual production.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...railerboat.jpg

Yes, those are twin Yamaha F350s on the bracket. The boat is a 34-footer
and does about 55 mph at WOT.

I don't know what the market is for this boat. It certainly isn't a
volume product.

I would agree with you - small commercial operators probably, maybe
even the small head boat industry.

The interior is far less Spartan than is usual with a Parker, but it is
still a fisherman's craft, so it isn't like your typical bubble boat in
the main or forward cabin. The head, sink and shower are enclosed,
there's a vee-berth forward, there's an actual mechanical/plumbing room.
Main cabin has a command chair and a large area for electronics. There's
a wrap around bench and table, and a sink, stove, refrigerator/freezer.
That's what is easily visible.

The cockpit has a large and pretty fancy (for Parker) 2nd command console.

It's a stretch Parker - you know, a Parker is a Parker is a Parker.

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=18

Although I do like the way they extended the hull through to the
bracket - that's pretty interesting.

Have they released the specs on it yet?

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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Although I do like the way they extended the hull through to the
bracket - that's pretty interesting.


They had to. I was studying that also. It needs those massive extensions
to the main stringers to support the weight of those engines.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...


Although I do like the way they extended the hull through to the
bracket - that's pretty interesting.


They had to. I was studying that also. It needs those massive extensions
to the main stringers to support the weight of those engines.

Eisboch



The bracket is exactly the same design as the one I had on my 25-foot
Parker, just larger. The bracket is designed and built that way to add
buoyancy at the stern when the boat is at rest. What you are seeing is
NOT a bracket for the outboards resting on a hull extension, but, in
fact, the bracket itself. It is through-bolted to the transom with hefty
stainless steel bolts about every inch and a half along the flat
portion. At least it was on my Parker. Therefore, there are no "massive
extensions to the main stringers to support the weight of the engines."

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...


Although I do like the way they extended the hull through to the
bracket - that's pretty interesting.


They had to. I was studying that also. It needs those massive
extensions to the main stringers to support the weight of those engines.

Eisboch

The bracket is exactly the same design as the one I had on my 25-foot
Parker, just larger. The bracket is designed and built that way to add
buoyancy at the stern when the boat is at rest. What you are seeing is NOT
a bracket for the outboards resting on a hull extension, but, in fact, the
bracket itself. It is through-bolted to the transom with hefty stainless
steel bolts about every inch and a half along the flat portion. At least
it was on my Parker. Therefore, there are no "massive extensions to the
main stringers to support the weight of the engines."



Well, in my humble, unqualified opinion .... there "should" be.

Although, I suppose the idea might be that if the boat is subjected to a
heavy pounding, it's better to let the bracket snap off along with the
engines, rather than compromise hull integrity by damaging the stringers.

Eisboch