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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message . .. Eisboch wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Although I do like the way they extended the hull through to the bracket - that's pretty interesting. They had to. I was studying that also. It needs those massive extensions to the main stringers to support the weight of those engines. Eisboch The bracket is exactly the same design as the one I had on my 25-foot Parker, just larger. The bracket is designed and built that way to add buoyancy at the stern when the boat is at rest. What you are seeing is NOT a bracket for the outboards resting on a hull extension, but, in fact, the bracket itself. It is through-bolted to the transom with hefty stainless steel bolts about every inch and a half along the flat portion. At least it was on my Parker. Therefore, there are no "massive extensions to the main stringers to support the weight of the engines." Well, in my humble, unqualified opinion .... there "should" be. Although, I suppose the idea might be that if the boat is subjected to a heavy pounding, it's better to let the bracket snap off along with the engines, rather than compromise hull integrity by damaging the stringers. Eisboch The bracket isn't going to "snap off." These boats are built like tanks. |
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On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 08:10:23 -0400, hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Although I do like the way they extended the hull through to the bracket - that's pretty interesting. They had to. I was studying that also. It needs those massive extensions to the main stringers to support the weight of those engines. The bracket is exactly the same design as the one I had on my 25-foot Parker, just larger. The bracket is designed and built that way to add buoyancy at the stern when the boat is at rest. What you are seeing is NOT a bracket for the outboards resting on a hull extension, but, in fact, the bracket itself. It is through-bolted to the transom with hefty stainless steel bolts about every inch and a half along the flat portion. At least it was on my Parker. Therefore, there are no "massive extensions to the main stringers to support the weight of the engines." It could be, but I'd suspect that Eisboch is right - it almost has to be attached directly to the stringers. There's a lot of leverage on that stern for it not to be supported by the hull stringers. There is no real way to tell from the images, but I do like the concept of extending the hull form to the bracket. One of the complaints I've always had about outboard brackets similar to the ones on the Vector series Hydra-Sports is that they tend to bury the engine on take off and coming off plane. Even playing with the trim doesn't help any. Extra buoyancy under the bracket is a good thing - interesting application. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 08:10:23 -0400, hk wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... Although I do like the way they extended the hull through to the bracket - that's pretty interesting. They had to. I was studying that also. It needs those massive extensions to the main stringers to support the weight of those engines. The bracket is exactly the same design as the one I had on my 25-foot Parker, just larger. The bracket is designed and built that way to add buoyancy at the stern when the boat is at rest. What you are seeing is NOT a bracket for the outboards resting on a hull extension, but, in fact, the bracket itself. It is through-bolted to the transom with hefty stainless steel bolts about every inch and a half along the flat portion. At least it was on my Parker. Therefore, there are no "massive extensions to the main stringers to support the weight of the engines." It could be, but I'd suspect that Eisboch is right - it almost has to be attached directly to the stringers. There's a lot of leverage on that stern for it not to be supported by the hull stringers. There is no real way to tell from the images, but I do like the concept of extending the hull form to the bracket. One of the complaints I've always had about outboard brackets similar to the ones on the Vector series Hydra-Sports is that they tend to bury the engine on take off and coming off plane. Even playing with the trim doesn't help any. Extra buoyancy under the bracket is a good thing - interesting application. There are several manufacturers of brackets with flotation chambers. Parker uses two of them that I know of to produce its custom designs. |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:51:56 -0400, hk wrote: I realize there's not many here interested in boats, but there might be a few lurkers who are. This is a factory-supplied photo of a new offshore *fishing* boat that has just been launched by Parker. It is hull #1 of actual production. http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...railerboat.jpg Yes, those are twin Yamaha F350s on the bracket. The boat is a 34-footer and does about 55 mph at WOT. I don't know what the market is for this boat. It certainly isn't a volume product. I would agree with you - small commercial operators probably, maybe even the small head boat industry. The interior is far less Spartan than is usual with a Parker, but it is still a fisherman's craft, so it isn't like your typical bubble boat in the main or forward cabin. The head, sink and shower are enclosed, there's a vee-berth forward, there's an actual mechanical/plumbing room. Main cabin has a command chair and a large area for electronics. There's a wrap around bench and table, and a sink, stove, refrigerator/freezer. That's what is easily visible. The cockpit has a large and pretty fancy (for Parker) 2nd command console. It's a stretch Parker - you know, a Parker is a Parker is a Parker. http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=18 Although I do like the way they extended the hull through to the bracket - that's pretty interesting. Have they released the specs on it yet? There are plenty of photos available, and a partial list of standard equipment/options, but I haven't seen a "spec" sheet yet. The boat is now "in production," so I am sure the numbers will be available soon. I do know the boat slightly outperforms the Grady 33' express in terms of top end and mpg's. I was at my local dealer's on Monday on another matter, and found out about when a new 34-footer will be there. Got myself on the demo ride list...guessing sometime in September. I like the term "stretch" Parker. I'll pass that one along! You know, or maybe you don't know, most Parker buyers are "repeat" customers, so it was inevitable the new boat would have a strong family resemblance to the existing pilothouse boats. Evolution is what Parker owners want, not revolution. |
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"hk" wrote in message . .. You know, or maybe you don't know, most Parker buyers are "repeat" customers, so it was inevitable the new boat would have a strong family resemblance to the existing pilothouse boats. Evolution is what Parker owners want, not revolution. Ya, but, even Henry Ford was wise enough to eventually update the design of the model T. Just kidding. I like traditional designs, even if I don't particularly care for them. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message . .. You know, or maybe you don't know, most Parker buyers are "repeat" customers, so it was inevitable the new boat would have a strong family resemblance to the existing pilothouse boats. Evolution is what Parker owners want, not revolution. Ya, but, even Henry Ford was wise enough to eventually update the design of the model T. Just kidding. I like traditional designs, even if I don't particularly care for them. Eisboch You really have to "fish" one of these boats in choppy salt water to appreciate them fully. They're heavy enough for their length to be able to move faster in reasonable comfort than lighter boats the same length, the hardware is all heavy duty, attached with proper backup plates, the hull is three piece, whatever you need the boat to supply for good fishing is there and properly designed, and, if you want, you can order the center console models without those damned vee seats at the bow. If you are a sometime fly fisherman as I am, having a nice, uncluttered area between the center console and the bow is a great help. But what I think I like best about the boats is that they are manufactured in a family business, and when I call with questions, I get a family member on the phone who handles customer service the way it is supposed to be handled. The few issues I have had with my Parker boats have been handled by a member of the Parker family and my dealer, without anything more than questions or requests from me. |
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"hk" wrote in message . .. But what I think I like best about the boats is that they are manufactured in a family business, and when I call with questions, I get a family member on the phone who handles customer service the way it is supposed to be handled. The few issues I have had with my Parker boats have been handled by a member of the Parker family and my dealer, without anything more than questions or requests from me. Well, of course! The Parker family has to have a marketing strategy to compensate for an old, outdated , fugly boat design. So, wisely, they do it with a smile and a pat on the ass. Harry, I am just busting them on you. It's fun to watch you get so defensive about your favorite boat manufacturer. Parkers are fine boats and built well. Eisboch |
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On Aug 6, 12:51*am, hk wrote:
I realize there's not many here interested in boats, but there might be a few lurkers who are. This is a factory-supplied photo of a new offshore *fishing* boat that has just been launched by Parker. It is hull #1 of actual production. http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...neous/newtrail... Yes, those are twin Yamaha F350s on the bracket. The boat is a 34-footer and does about 55 mph at WOT. I don't know what the market is for this boat. It certainly isn't a volume product. The interior is far less Spartan than is usual with a Parker, but it is still a fisherman's craft, so it isn't like your typical bubble boat in the main or forward cabin. The head, sink and shower are enclosed, there's a vee-berth forward, there's an actual mechanical/plumbing room. Main cabin has a command chair and a large area for electronics. There's a wrap around bench and table, and a sink, stove, refrigerator/freezer. That's what is easily visible. The cockpit has a large and pretty fancy (for Parker) 2nd command console.. Pretty hefty trailer and tow vehicle, probably NOT an F150. I thought you tried to get people here to believe you are quite the accomplished photographer? There is so much wrong with that picture that I don't know where to begin. |
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wrote in message ... On Aug 6, 12:51 am, hk wrote: I realize there's not many here interested in boats, but there might be a few lurkers who are. This is a factory-supplied photo of a new offshore *fishing* boat that has just been launched by Parker. It is hull #1 of actual production. http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...neous/newtrail... Yes, those are twin Yamaha F350s on the bracket. The boat is a 34-footer and does about 55 mph at WOT. I don't know what the market is for this boat. It certainly isn't a volume product. The interior is far less Spartan than is usual with a Parker, but it is still a fisherman's craft, so it isn't like your typical bubble boat in the main or forward cabin. The head, sink and shower are enclosed, there's a vee-berth forward, there's an actual mechanical/plumbing room. Main cabin has a command chair and a large area for electronics. There's a wrap around bench and table, and a sink, stove, refrigerator/freezer. That's what is easily visible. The cockpit has a large and pretty fancy (for Parker) 2nd command console. Pretty hefty trailer and tow vehicle, probably NOT an F150. I thought you tried to get people here to believe you are quite the accomplished photographer? There is so much wrong with that picture that I don't know where to begin. ----------------------------- You missed the "factory supplied photo" part of his post. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
wrote in message ... On Aug 6, 12:51 am, hk wrote: I realize there's not many here interested in boats, but there might be a few lurkers who are. This is a factory-supplied photo of a new offshore *fishing* boat that has just been launched by Parker. It is hull #1 of actual production. http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...neous/newtrail... Yes, those are twin Yamaha F350s on the bracket. The boat is a 34-footer and does about 55 mph at WOT. I don't know what the market is for this boat. It certainly isn't a volume product. The interior is far less Spartan than is usual with a Parker, but it is still a fisherman's craft, so it isn't like your typical bubble boat in the main or forward cabin. The head, sink and shower are enclosed, there's a vee-berth forward, there's an actual mechanical/plumbing room. Main cabin has a command chair and a large area for electronics. There's a wrap around bench and table, and a sink, stove, refrigerator/freezer. That's what is easily visible. The cockpit has a large and pretty fancy (for Parker) 2nd command console. Pretty hefty trailer and tow vehicle, probably NOT an F150. I thought you tried to get people here to believe you are quite the accomplished photographer? There is so much wrong with that picture that I don't know where to begin. ----------------------------- You missed the "factory supplied photo" part of his post. Eisboch Crikey...look at all the fun I am missing by filtering out Loogy and the rest of the SevenLittleSchitts. :) |
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