"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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Although I do like the way they extended the hull through to the
bracket - that's pretty interesting.


They had to. I was studying that also. It needs those massive extensions
to the main stringers to support the weight of those engines.

Eisboch

On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 02:08:52 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
...
I realize there's not many here interested in boats, but there might be a
few lurkers who are.

This is a factory-supplied photo of a new offshore *fishing* boat that has
just been launched by Parker. It is hull #1 of actual production.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...railerboat.jpg


Yes, those are twin Yamaha F350s on the bracket. The boat is a 34-footer
and does about 55 mph at WOT.

I don't know what the market is for this boat. It certainly isn't a volume
product.

The interior is far less Spartan than is usual with a Parker, but it is
still a fisherman's craft, so it isn't like your typical bubble boat in
the main or forward cabin. The head, sink and shower are enclosed, there's
a vee-berth forward, there's an actual mechanical/plumbing room.
Main cabin has a command chair and a large area for electronics. There's a
wrap around bench and table, and a sink, stove, refrigerator/freezer.
That's what is easily visible.

The cockpit has a large and pretty fancy (for Parker) 2nd command console.

Pretty hefty trailer and tow vehicle, probably NOT an F150.

I know you like Parkers, which is fine, but to me, this simply looks like a
big, obese and overgrown version of the 25 footer.

The huge Yamaha outboards further reinforce that image. It might look
better if it was set up with twin inboard diesels. Some larger boats, like
a Yellowfin 34 or 36 CC offshore fishing boat look natural with big
outboards and they preserve space for fishing and gear. IMO, the Parker
just doesn't look right with twin monsterous outboards.

What struck me was how unbalanced the boat looks on dry land - all
that cabin up front, huge stern deck and then the engines. It just
looks unbalanced. I'm sure it's a sound boat - Parker doesn't build
junk boats - it just looks odd.

Yeah, odd is a much better word.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...


What struck me was how unbalanced the boat looks on dry land - all
that cabin up front, huge stern deck and then the engines. It just
looks unbalanced. I'm sure it's a sound boat - Parker doesn't build
junk boats - it just looks odd.

Yeah, odd is a much better word.


It does, but then again, in all fairness, boats look a lot different *in*
the water than they do on the hard or on a hauler.

They also shrink.

Eisboch

On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 06:26:09 -0400, hk wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
I realize there's not many here interested in boats, but there might be a
few lurkers who are.

This is a factory-supplied photo of a new offshore *fishing* boat that has
just been launched by Parker. It is hull #1 of actual production.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...railerboat.jpg


Yes, those are twin Yamaha F350s on the bracket. The boat is a 34-footer
and does about 55 mph at WOT.

I don't know what the market is for this boat. It certainly isn't a volume
product.

The interior is far less Spartan than is usual with a Parker, but it is
still a fisherman's craft, so it isn't like your typical bubble boat in
the main or forward cabin. The head, sink and shower are enclosed, there's
a vee-berth forward, there's an actual mechanical/plumbing room.
Main cabin has a command chair and a large area for electronics. There's a
wrap around bench and table, and a sink, stove, refrigerator/freezer.
That's what is easily visible.

The cockpit has a large and pretty fancy (for Parker) 2nd command console.

Pretty hefty trailer and tow vehicle, probably NOT an F150.


I know you like Parkers, which is fine, but to me, this simply looks like a
big, obese and overgrown version of the 25 footer.

The huge Yamaha outboards further reinforce that image. It might look
better if it was set up with twin inboard diesels. Some larger boats, like
a Yellowfin 34 or 36 CC offshore fishing boat look natural with big
outboards and they preserve space for fishing and gear. IMO, the Parker
just doesn't look right with twin monsterous outboards.

Maybe it's just the picture, sitting on the trailer with the tow vehicle
shown in relationship to the boat/engines setup.
It almost looks fake.

One either likes the way Parkers look...or one doesn't.

That's very true.

I've been on the 23 T Big Bay boat that Parker makes - rugged, tough,
no nonsense fishing boat - it's impressive and I like the way it
looks. The 2100 is a nice boat for it's size too.

If only they would change the color. That off white just doesn't do
it for me. :)

Hey. it's not a bubble boat, that's for sure. :)

Depends on your definition of bubble boat. All that cabin up from
with that hot house cabin (which is something I've never understood -
every cabin Parker I've been on is hot as hell inside and you have to
keep the boat moving to get any ventilation) it might as well be a
bubble boat even if it doesn't look like a classic bubble boat.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:51:56 -0400, hk wrote:

I realize there's not many here interested in boats, but there might be
a few lurkers who are.

This is a factory-supplied photo of a new offshore *fishing* boat that
has just been launched by Parker. It is hull #1 of actual production.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...railerboat.jpg

Yes, those are twin Yamaha F350s on the bracket. The boat is a 34-footer
and does about 55 mph at WOT.

I don't know what the market is for this boat. It certainly isn't a
volume product.

I would agree with you - small commercial operators probably, maybe
even the small head boat industry.

The interior is far less Spartan than is usual with a Parker, but it is
still a fisherman's craft, so it isn't like your typical bubble boat in
the main or forward cabin. The head, sink and shower are enclosed,
there's a vee-berth forward, there's an actual mechanical/plumbing room.
Main cabin has a command chair and a large area for electronics. There's
a wrap around bench and table, and a sink, stove, refrigerator/freezer.
That's what is easily visible.

The cockpit has a large and pretty fancy (for Parker) 2nd command console.

It's a stretch Parker - you know, a Parker is a Parker is a Parker.

http://www.parkerboats.net/pages/boa....jsp?boatid=18

Although I do like the way they extended the hull through to the
bracket - that's pretty interesting.

Have they released the specs on it yet?


There are plenty of photos available, and a partial list of standard
equipment/options, but I haven't seen a "spec" sheet yet. The boat is
now "in production," so I am sure the numbers will be available soon.
I do know the boat slightly outperforms the Grady 33' express in terms
of top end and mpg's.

I was at my local dealer's on Monday on another matter, and found out
about when a new 34-footer will be there. Got myself on the demo ride
list...guessing sometime in September.

I like the term "stretch" Parker. I'll pass that one along!

You know, or maybe you don't know, most Parker buyers are "repeat"
customers, so it was inevitable the new boat would have a strong family
resemblance to the existing pilothouse boats. Evolution is what Parker
owners want, not revolution.

Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...


Although I do like the way they extended the hull through to the
bracket - that's pretty interesting.


They had to. I was studying that also. It needs those massive extensions
to the main stringers to support the weight of those engines.

Eisboch



The bracket is exactly the same design as the one I had on my 25-foot
Parker, just larger. The bracket is designed and built that way to add
buoyancy at the stern when the boat is at rest. What you are seeing is
NOT a bracket for the outboards resting on a hull extension, but, in
fact, the bracket itself. It is through-bolted to the transom with hefty
stainless steel bolts about every inch and a half along the flat
portion. At least it was on my Parker. Therefore, there are no "massive
extensions to the main stringers to support the weight of the engines."

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 6 Aug 2008 02:08:52 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
I realize there's not many here interested in boats, but there might be a
few lurkers who are.

This is a factory-supplied photo of a new offshore *fishing* boat that has
just been launched by Parker. It is hull #1 of actual production.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...railerboat.jpg


Yes, those are twin Yamaha F350s on the bracket. The boat is a 34-footer
and does about 55 mph at WOT.

I don't know what the market is for this boat. It certainly isn't a volume
product.

The interior is far less Spartan than is usual with a Parker, but it is
still a fisherman's craft, so it isn't like your typical bubble boat in
the main or forward cabin. The head, sink and shower are enclosed, there's
a vee-berth forward, there's an actual mechanical/plumbing room.
Main cabin has a command chair and a large area for electronics. There's a
wrap around bench and table, and a sink, stove, refrigerator/freezer.
That's what is easily visible.

The cockpit has a large and pretty fancy (for Parker) 2nd command console.

Pretty hefty trailer and tow vehicle, probably NOT an F150.
I know you like Parkers, which is fine, but to me, this simply looks like a
big, obese and overgrown version of the 25 footer.

The huge Yamaha outboards further reinforce that image. It might look
better if it was set up with twin inboard diesels. Some larger boats, like
a Yellowfin 34 or 36 CC offshore fishing boat look natural with big
outboards and they preserve space for fishing and gear. IMO, the Parker
just doesn't look right with twin monsterous outboards.

What struck me was how unbalanced the boat looks on dry land - all
that cabin up front, huge stern deck and then the engines. It just
looks unbalanced. I'm sure it's a sound boat - Parker doesn't build
junk boats - it just looks odd.

Yeah, odd is a much better word.


It's just a bit bigger than you are used to seeing in that size boat.

Put it another way...if I removed the center console from my Parker, I
believe your Ranger would fit inside and you wouldn't see your boat's
gunnels, and our boats are about the same length.

These are pilothouse style boats, and very traditional in proportions.
The cockpit is huge so as to accommodate the largest possible number of
fishermen. You obviously prefer a different style. I've always liked
workboat type boats.

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 06 Aug 2008 06:26:09 -0400, hk wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
. ..
I realize there's not many here interested in boats, but there might be a
few lurkers who are.

This is a factory-supplied photo of a new offshore *fishing* boat that has
just been launched by Parker. It is hull #1 of actual production.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...railerboat.jpg


Yes, those are twin Yamaha F350s on the bracket. The boat is a 34-footer
and does about 55 mph at WOT.

I don't know what the market is for this boat. It certainly isn't a volume
product.

The interior is far less Spartan than is usual with a Parker, but it is
still a fisherman's craft, so it isn't like your typical bubble boat in
the main or forward cabin. The head, sink and shower are enclosed, there's
a vee-berth forward, there's an actual mechanical/plumbing room.
Main cabin has a command chair and a large area for electronics. There's a
wrap around bench and table, and a sink, stove, refrigerator/freezer.
That's what is easily visible.

The cockpit has a large and pretty fancy (for Parker) 2nd command console.

Pretty hefty trailer and tow vehicle, probably NOT an F150.

I know you like Parkers, which is fine, but to me, this simply looks like a
big, obese and overgrown version of the 25 footer.

The huge Yamaha outboards further reinforce that image. It might look
better if it was set up with twin inboard diesels. Some larger boats, like
a Yellowfin 34 or 36 CC offshore fishing boat look natural with big
outboards and they preserve space for fishing and gear. IMO, the Parker
just doesn't look right with twin monsterous outboards.

Maybe it's just the picture, sitting on the trailer with the tow vehicle
shown in relationship to the boat/engines setup.
It almost looks fake.
One either likes the way Parkers look...or one doesn't.

That's very true.

I've been on the 23 T Big Bay boat that Parker makes - rugged, tough,
no nonsense fishing boat - it's impressive and I like the way it
looks. The 2100 is a nice boat for it's size too.

If only they would change the color. That off white just doesn't do
it for me. :)

Hey. it's not a bubble boat, that's for sure. :)

Depends on your definition of bubble boat. All that cabin up from
with that hot house cabin (which is something I've never understood -
every cabin Parker I've been on is hot as hell inside and you have to
keep the boat moving to get any ventilation) it might as well be a
bubble boat even if it doesn't look like a classic bubble boat.



Interesting. When I owned one, I'd go into the main cabin in the hot
summer to get away from the heat. It was much cooler inside the cabin
with the opening front and side glass.

White, as you know, reflects heat.

Hey...these are fiberglass boats, white as God intended such boats to be.

The Big Bay, btw, is a mod-vee hull, and isn't as deep in the cockpit
(or the bottom) as the deep vees.

That 23' hull is now available as a work boat, with absolutely nothing
on the interior deck. No console, no rigging, no nothing. There's a 21'
version now, too. Workboat market.

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...


Although I do like the way they extended the hull through to the
bracket - that's pretty interesting.


They had to. I was studying that also. It needs those massive
extensions to the main stringers to support the weight of those engines.

Eisboch

The bracket is exactly the same design as the one I had on my 25-foot
Parker, just larger. The bracket is designed and built that way to add
buoyancy at the stern when the boat is at rest. What you are seeing is NOT
a bracket for the outboards resting on a hull extension, but, in fact, the
bracket itself. It is through-bolted to the transom with hefty stainless
steel bolts about every inch and a half along the flat portion. At least
it was on my Parker. Therefore, there are no "massive extensions to the
main stringers to support the weight of the engines."



Well, in my humble, unqualified opinion .... there "should" be.

Although, I suppose the idea might be that if the boat is subjected to a
heavy pounding, it's better to let the bracket snap off along with the
engines, rather than compromise hull integrity by damaging the stringers.

Eisboch

"hk" wrote in message
. ..


You know, or maybe you don't know, most Parker buyers are "repeat"
customers, so it was inevitable the new boat would have a strong family
resemblance to the existing pilothouse boats. Evolution is what Parker
owners want, not revolution.

Ya, but, even Henry Ford was wise enough to eventually update the design of
the model T.

Just kidding. I like traditional designs, even if I don't particularly
care for them.

Eisboch