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On Jan 28, 9:44 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
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On Jan 28, 9:38 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:





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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:17:44 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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Lee County Florida - did you, your kids or grandkids attend those
schools?
That's what I meant by "personally experienced". Is that what you
mean,
too?

My daughter went to Lee County schools for 10 years and I volunteered
at the middle schools for a while, talking about water quality until
we figured out I wasn't preaching the company line (all evel is caused
by boaters and "Big Sugar"). I just told it the way I saw if from 8
years of actual water sampling.

I hereby offer my condolences. That's what you get for living in a
backward
state, I guess. Here (NY), my son never got any sort of slanted crap.
Matter
of fact, his social studies books were neutral to the point of being as
boring as the airbrushed bras in the old Sears catalogs. Does Floriduh
have
a state syllabus, or is everything determined at the local level, by the
Klan, church, or whoever's in charge?

you are a miserable son of a bitch....

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The syllabus (go look it up in a dictionary) comes from SOMEWHERE. It's at
the state level, or the local level. If the syllabus is meddled with by
special interest groups, it's usually at the local level, although in some
backwaters like Kansas, it's at higher levels. If gretwell didn't like
what
went on in his daughter's school, he knew who to blame. It's not that
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You are clueless... drunk, fat, and lazy is no way to live your life
son...

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You have suddenly ascended to personal insults. I said "ascended". That was
not a typo.

That's a positive thing

Now: Here in NY, the syllabus comes from the state. If there are problems,
all one needs to do is begin addressing them with the teacher, then the
principal, and finally the school board. It works 100% of the time. If you
disagree, explain why.

TOP POSTED ON PURPOSE.......

Harry is a legend in his own mind. He fancies himself a wit. He's only
half right.


"BAR" wrote in message
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HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:

We had a very progressive mayor in the mid-1950s, and there was a
lot of community pressure to "dump" school prayer locally long
before it happened nationally. I don't recall how it was handled
within the school system, but I do know that at the grammar school
I attended, it just stopped in about the fifth grade. By the time I
got to junior high (we had seventh through ninth junior high in
those days, no more, though), there was no morning standing and
pledging.

One of the delights of New Haven in those days was the mish-mash of
cultures and religions, to the point where no group or sect really
dominated. The public schools did close, though, on the Jewish high
holidays, for which everyone was thankful!

Did you fight to get that religious holiday taken off the secular
public school calendar?



Fight to get a day off from school eliminated? Unlike you, I was
smart enough to graduate from high school.

What happened to your secular society Mr. Yale graduate, Dr. MD Wife,
36' Zimmerman like Lobsta' boat, worked for a General (which side we
still don't know) during the Vietnam war, offered a big job in the
Nixon administration, owned a big Hatteras? Did I forget the smartest
son of a bitch on earth too?

With me you get the truth but, with you we get the lie of the moment.

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On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:41:08 -0800 (PST),
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Does Floriduh have
a state syllabus, or is everything determined at the local level, by the
Klan, church, or whoever's in charge?

you are a miserable son of a bitch....


That is misplaced anger.
The "church" here is the holy alter of environmentalism which is as
fast and loose with science as any of the other fundalmentalists


Example?

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 02:38:26 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
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I hereby offer my condolences. That's what you get for living in a
backward
state, I guess. Here (NY), my son never got any sort of slanted crap.
Matter
of fact, his social studies books were neutral to the point of being as
boring as the airbrushed bras in the old Sears catalogs. Does Floriduh
have
a state syllabus, or is everything determined at the local level, by the
Klan, church, or whoever's in charge?

I think that is an oversimplification. I bet if you really watched
what they are teaching you would see what I mean.
... unless you are in that cult too. ;-)



I know what my son learned. I read his books. I read his writing. I talked
with him constantly about what he was learning.

Now that I think about it, though, you might be right. He never throws trash
out of the car windows, into the water, or leaves it in the woods. Is that
environmental brainwashing of the wrong kind?

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On Jan 28, 8:50 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

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middleschool....

I have an 13 yo daughter and a 11 yo daughter going on 23. Sunday
afternoon I get a call from the 23 yo, I mean 11 yo, asking if she can
go to the mall with her friend. I ask if an adult is going and she
responds, without taking a breath, I will have my cell phone with me.
Dead silence on the phone and she hangs up. Later that day when she
comes home I get the silent treatment. I really did enjoy receiving the
silent treatment.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
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On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:41:08 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

Does Floriduh have
a state syllabus, or is everything determined at the local level, by the
Klan, church, or whoever's in charge?
you are a miserable son of a bitch....

That is misplaced anger.
The "church" here is the holy alter of environmentalism which is as
fast and loose with science as any of the other fundalmentalists


Example?




U.S. Sugar was fighting "environmentalism" tooth and nail when I lived
in Florida.

If you want some interesting reading, check out the connections between
the u.s. sugar industry and the communist revolution in cuba.

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On Jan 28, 8:50 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

How old is your kid?- Hide quoted text -

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middleschool....

I have an 13 yo daughter and a 11 yo daughter going on 23. Sunday
afternoon I get a call from the 23 yo, I mean 11 yo, asking if she can go
to the mall with her friend. I ask if an adult is going and she responds,
without taking a breath, I will have my cell phone with me. Dead silence
on the phone and she hangs up. Later that day when she comes home I get
the silent treatment. I really did enjoy receiving the silent treatment.




Wow. You really *are* stupid if you accept the existence of a cell phone as
a substitute for the right answer, which she did not give you.

Lu Powell wrote:
TOP POSTED ON PURPOSE.......

Harry is a legend in his own mind. He fancies himself a wit. He's only
half right.


"BAR" wrote in message
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HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
We had a very progressive mayor in the mid-1950s, and there was a
lot of community pressure to "dump" school prayer locally long
before it happened nationally. I don't recall how it was handled
within the school system, but I do know that at the grammar school
I attended, it just stopped in about the fifth grade. By the time I
got to junior high (we had seventh through ninth junior high in
those days, no more, though), there was no morning standing and
pledging.

One of the delights of New Haven in those days was the mish-mash of
cultures and religions, to the point where no group or sect really
dominated. The public schools did close, though, on the Jewish high
holidays, for which everyone was thankful!
Did you fight to get that religious holiday taken off the secular
public school calendar?


Fight to get a day off from school eliminated? Unlike you, I was
smart enough to graduate from high school.
What happened to your secular society Mr. Yale graduate, Dr. MD Wife,
36' Zimmerman like Lobsta' boat, worked for a General (which side we
still don't know) during the Vietnam war, offered a big job in the
Nixon administration, owned a big Hatteras? Did I forget the smartest
son of a bitch on earth too?

With me you get the truth but, with you we get the lie of the moment.

I remember, quite a few years ago, being warned that if you tangled
with Harry you would end up on the floor in a pool of blood. Well I am
not afraid of Harry. I see through him and he is nothing but a mean old
man who resents the world for passing him by.

On Jan 28, 10:33*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 02:44:51 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"

wrote:
If the syllabus is meddled with by
special interest groups, it's usually at the local level, although in some
backwaters like Kansas, it's at higher levels. If gretwell didn't like what
went on in his daughter's school, he knew who to blame. It's not that
difficult to melt those evil forces.

Actually it wasn't really as bad when she was in school as it is now.
The political agends of these "environmentalist" cults *permiates all
levels of government. They take something like global warming, some
obscure endangered animal or second hand smoke and make a case that
far exceeds the science. Then they say if you can't swallow the whole
package, you are denying any of it ... much like any other
fundalmentalist who says you are a heathen if you don't agree with
100% of their dogma.

We had a simiar problem a few years ago when one of our little ones
came home crying because the teacher told the kid mom was going to die
soon because she smoked, then showed these 5th graders horrible
pictures of lung damage and such...

On Jan 28, 10:39*pm, BAR wrote:
Lu Powell wrote:
TOP POSTED ON PURPOSE.......

Harry is a legend in his own mind. He fancies himself a wit. He's only
half right.

"BAR" wrote in message
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HK wrote:
BAR wrote:
HK wrote:
We had a very progressive mayor in the mid-1950s, and there was a
lot of community pressure to "dump" school prayer locally long
before it happened nationally. I don't recall how it was handled
within the school system, but I do know that at the grammar school
I attended, it just stopped in about the fifth grade. By the time I
got to junior high (we had seventh through ninth junior high in
those days, no more, though), there was no morning standing and
pledging.

One of the delights of New Haven in those days was the mish-mash of
cultures and religions, to the point where no group or sect really
dominated. The public schools did close, though, on the Jewish high
holidays, for which everyone was thankful!
Did you fight to get that religious holiday taken off the secular
public school calendar?

Fight to get a day off from school eliminated? Unlike you, I was
smart enough to graduate from high school.
What happened to your secular society Mr. Yale graduate, Dr. MD Wife,
36' Zimmerman like Lobsta' boat, worked for a General (which side we
still don't know) during the Vietnam war, offered a big job in the
Nixon administration, owned a big Hatteras? Did I forget the smartest
son of a bitch on earth too?

With me you get the truth but, with you we get the lie of the moment.

I remember, quite a few *years ago, being warned that if you tangled
with Harry you would end up on the floor in a pool of blood. Well I am
not afraid of Harry. I see through him and he is nothing but a mean old
man who resents the world for passing him by.- Hide quoted text -

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Yeah, and now you see what you get when you answer one of Joes drunken
queries. Someone like him questioning my parenting skills or yours is
just obsurd. He shows all the signs of an abused child, gone to the
bottle. Pitiful, but he seems to deserve his self loathing, brings it
on himself I am sure...