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One of the delights of New Haven in those days was the mish-mash of
cultures and religions, to the point where no group or sect really
dominated. The public schools did close, though, on the Jewish high
holidays, for which everyone was thankful!

The only kid in my grammar school days that didn't do "the pledge"
quietly
stood in the back of the room while the rest of us went through the
morning ritual.

I remember asking him one day why he didn't do it. (this was like 5th
grade) He told me he was a Jehovah's Witness and they didn't believe in
it.

I didn't know what a Jehovah's Witness was from the man in the moon, but
I
thought it was cool and said, "Ok".

Eisboch

My best friend all though high school was and still is a JW. 3 of us ran
around together. One JW, one Jew and me the agnostic. No religious
battles, as no one tried to force any religion on the others. When I
married a Catholic girl in a Catholic Church, with the Monsigeur
presiding,
the JW was my best man and had to teach me how to genuflect. He also did
not say the pledge and did not get in trouble. And this was in the
1950's.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes, but your school, like the schools here in CT had not dismissed
the pledge for those who wanted to participate, also a moment of
silence I would imagine.. But no matter, we all know what we are
argueing with an ideology, not historical facts...

True. And we used to "Duck and Cover". My parents said if we get attacked
just come home. Forget about the Duck and cover. We were toast anyway.
There were evacuation plans for the SF Bay area. Yup, all these people were
going to drive towards Sacramento, on US-40. A 2 lane eachway highway.

Calif Bill wrote:
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On Jan 29, 2:40 am, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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One of the delights of New Haven in those days was the mish-mash of
cultures and religions, to the point where no group or sect really
dominated. The public schools did close, though, on the Jewish high
holidays, for which everyone was thankful!
The only kid in my grammar school days that didn't do "the pledge"
quietly
stood in the back of the room while the rest of us went through the
morning ritual.
I remember asking him one day why he didn't do it. (this was like 5th
grade) He told me he was a Jehovah's Witness and they didn't believe in
it.
I didn't know what a Jehovah's Witness was from the man in the moon, but
I
thought it was cool and said, "Ok".
Eisboch
My best friend all though high school was and still is a JW. 3 of us ran
around together. One JW, one Jew and me the agnostic. No religious
battles, as no one tried to force any religion on the others. When I
married a Catholic girl in a Catholic Church, with the Monsigeur
presiding,
the JW was my best man and had to teach me how to genuflect. He also did
not say the pledge and did not get in trouble. And this was in the
1950's.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes, but your school, like the schools here in CT had not dismissed
the pledge for those who wanted to participate, also a moment of
silence I would imagine.. But no matter, we all know what we are
argueing with an ideology, not historical facts...

True. And we used to "Duck and Cover". My parents said if we get attacked
just come home. Forget about the Duck and cover. We were toast anyway.
There were evacuation plans for the SF Bay area. Yup, all these people were
going to drive towards Sacramento, on US-40. A 2 lane eachway highway.




It's amazing how some here go from the specific to the general.

As an example, the fact that some schools in a state didn't bother with
school prayer or the pledge does not mean that many, most, or all
schools in the state followed the same practice, especially with
independent, local school boards. I grew up in a part of southern
Connecticut that at the time was a lot more progressive than the more
rural parts of the state in the far northeast or northwest counties.

It's also amazing how some of the "great thinkers" here devolved a
conversation down to the level of religious conversion, which I
explained at least three times in plain language was NOT what I was
talking about.

The "d'oh" factor is alive and well in rec.boats.

On Jan 29, 5:19*pm, HK wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
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On Jan 29, 2:40 am, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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One of the delights of New Haven in those days was the mish-mash of
cultures and religions, to the point where no group or sect really
dominated. The public schools did close, though, on the Jewish high
holidays, for which everyone was thankful!
The only kid in my grammar school days that didn't do "the pledge"
quietly
stood in the back of the room while the rest of us went through the
morning ritual.
I remember asking him one day why he didn't do it. (this was like 5th
grade) He told me he was a Jehovah's Witness and they didn't believe in
it.
I didn't know what a Jehovah's Witness was from the man in the moon, but
I
thought it was cool and said, "Ok".
Eisboch
My best friend all though high school was and still is a JW. 3 of us ran
around together. One JW, one Jew and me the agnostic. No religious
battles, as no one tried to force any religion on the others. When I
married a Catholic girl in a Catholic Church, with the Monsigeur
presiding,
the JW was my best man and had to teach me how to genuflect. He also did
not say the pledge and did not get in trouble. And this was in the
1950's.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes, but your school, like the schools here in CT had not dismissed
the pledge for those who wanted to participate, also a moment of
silence I would imagine.. But no matter, we all know what we are
argueing with an ideology, not historical facts...

True. *And we used to "Duck and Cover". *My parents said if we get attacked
just come home. *Forget about the Duck and cover. *We were toast anyway.
There were evacuation plans for the SF Bay area. *Yup, all these people were
going to drive towards Sacramento, on US-40. *A 2 lane eachway highway..

It's amazing how some here go from the specific to the general.

As an example, the fact that some schools in a state didn't bother with
school prayer or the pledge does not mean that many, most, or all
schools in the state followed the same practice, especially with
independent, local school boards. I grew up in a part of southern
Connecticut that at the time was a lot more progressive than the more
rural parts of the state in the far northeast or northwest counties.

It's also amazing how some of the "great thinkers" here devolved a
conversation down to the level of religious conversion, which I
explained at least three times in plain language was NOT what I was
talking about.

The "d'oh" factor is alive and well in rec.boats.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I guess you told me

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On Jan 29, 2:40 am, "Calif Bill" wrote:
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One of the delights of New Haven in those days was the mish-mash of
cultures and religions, to the point where no group or sect really
dominated. The public schools did close, though, on the Jewish high
holidays, for which everyone was thankful!
The only kid in my grammar school days that didn't do "the pledge"
quietly
stood in the back of the room while the rest of us went through the
morning ritual.
I remember asking him one day why he didn't do it. (this was like 5th
grade) He told me he was a Jehovah's Witness and they didn't believe in
it.
I didn't know what a Jehovah's Witness was from the man in the moon,
but I
thought it was cool and said, "Ok".
Eisboch
My best friend all though high school was and still is a JW. 3 of us ran
around together. One JW, one Jew and me the agnostic. No religious
battles, as no one tried to force any religion on the others. When I
married a Catholic girl in a Catholic Church, with the Monsigeur
presiding,
the JW was my best man and had to teach me how to genuflect. He also did
not say the pledge and did not get in trouble. And this was in the
1950's.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yes, but your school, like the schools here in CT had not dismissed
the pledge for those who wanted to participate, also a moment of
silence I would imagine.. But no matter, we all know what we are
argueing with an ideology, not historical facts...

True. And we used to "Duck and Cover". My parents said if we get
attacked just come home. Forget about the Duck and cover. We were toast
anyway. There were evacuation plans for the SF Bay area. Yup, all these
people were going to drive towards Sacramento, on US-40. A 2 lane
eachway highway.


It's amazing how some here go from the specific to the general.

As an example, the fact that some schools in a state didn't bother with
school prayer or the pledge does not mean that many, most, or all schools
in the state followed the same practice, especially with independent,
local school boards. I grew up in a part of southern Connecticut that at
the time was a lot more progressive than the more rural parts of the state
in the far northeast or northwest counties.

It's also amazing how some of the "great thinkers" here devolved a
conversation down to the level of religious conversion, which I explained
at least three times in plain language was NOT what I was talking about.

The "d'oh" factor is alive and well in rec.boats.

It is amazing how some in here can take a post on any subject and turn it in
to a Political Troll. Even trolling with an LT.

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On Jan 29, 5:19 pm, HK wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
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On Jan 29, 2:40 am, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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One of the delights of New Haven in those days was the mish-mash of
cultures and religions, to the point where no group or sect really
dominated. The public schools did close, though, on the Jewish high
holidays, for which everyone was thankful!
The only kid in my grammar school days that didn't do "the pledge"
quietly
stood in the back of the room while the rest of us went through the
morning ritual.
I remember asking him one day why he didn't do it. (this was like 5th
grade) He told me he was a Jehovah's Witness and they didn't believe in
it.
I didn't know what a Jehovah's Witness was from the man in the moon, but
I
thought it was cool and said, "Ok".
Eisboch
My best friend all though high school was and still is a JW. 3 of us ran
around together. One JW, one Jew and me the agnostic. No religious
battles, as no one tried to force any religion on the others. When I
married a Catholic girl in a Catholic Church, with the Monsigeur
presiding,
the JW was my best man and had to teach me how to genuflect. He also did
not say the pledge and did not get in trouble. And this was in the
1950's.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yes, but your school, like the schools here in CT had not dismissed
the pledge for those who wanted to participate, also a moment of
silence I would imagine.. But no matter, we all know what we are
argueing with an ideology, not historical facts...
True. And we used to "Duck and Cover". My parents said if we get attacked
just come home. Forget about the Duck and cover. We were toast anyway.
There were evacuation plans for the SF Bay area. Yup, all these people were
going to drive towards Sacramento, on US-40. A 2 lane eachway highway.
It's amazing how some here go from the specific to the general.

As an example, the fact that some schools in a state didn't bother with
school prayer or the pledge does not mean that many, most, or all
schools in the state followed the same practice, especially with
independent, local school boards. I grew up in a part of southern
Connecticut that at the time was a lot more progressive than the more
rural parts of the state in the far northeast or northwest counties.

It's also amazing how some of the "great thinkers" here devolved a
conversation down to the level of religious conversion, which I
explained at least three times in plain language was NOT what I was
talking about.

The "d'oh" factor is alive and well in rec.boats.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I guess you told me


I told you THREE times I was not talking about religious converters.
THREE times. Yet you insisted on bringing that up over and over and over.

On Jan 29, 6:59*pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 29, 5:19 pm, HK wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
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On Jan 29, 2:40 am, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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wrote:
One of the delights of New Haven in those days was the mish-mash of
cultures and religions, to the point where no group or sect really
dominated. The public schools did close, though, on the Jewish high
holidays, for which everyone was thankful!
The only kid in my grammar school days that didn't do "the pledge"
quietly
stood in the back of the room while the rest of us went through the
morning ritual.
I remember asking him one day why he didn't do it. (this was like 5th
grade) He told me he was a Jehovah's Witness and they didn't believe in
it.
I didn't know what a Jehovah's Witness was from the man in the moon, but
I
thought it was cool and said, "Ok".
Eisboch
My best friend all though high school was and still is a JW. 3 of us ran
around together. One JW, one Jew and me the agnostic. No religious
battles, as no one tried to force any religion on the others. When I
married a Catholic girl in a Catholic Church, with the Monsigeur
presiding,
the JW was my best man and had to teach me how to genuflect. He also did
not say the pledge and did not get in trouble. And this was in the
1950's.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yes, but your school, like the schools here in CT had not dismissed
the pledge for those who wanted to participate, also a moment of
silence I would imagine.. But no matter, we all know what we are
argueing with an ideology, not historical facts...
True. *And we used to "Duck and Cover". *My parents said if we get attacked
just come home. *Forget about the Duck and cover. *We were toast anyway.
There were evacuation plans for the SF Bay area. *Yup, all these people were
going to drive towards Sacramento, on US-40. *A 2 lane eachway highway.
It's amazing how some here go from the specific to the general.

As an example, the fact that some schools in a state didn't bother with
school prayer or the pledge does not mean that many, most, or all
schools in the state followed the same practice, especially with
independent, local school boards. I grew up in a part of southern
Connecticut that at the time was a lot more progressive than the more
rural parts of the state in the far northeast or northwest counties.

It's also amazing how some of the "great thinkers" here devolved a
conversation down to the level of religious conversion, which I
explained at least three times in plain language was NOT what I was
talking about.

The "d'oh" factor is alive and well in rec.boats.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I guess you told me

I told you THREE times I was not talking about religious converters.
THREE times. Yet you insisted on bringing that up over and over and over.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I like to see you get excited..

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On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:43:03 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Jan 28, 11:37?pm, wrote:
On Jan 28, 11:29?pm, Tim wrote:

On Jan 28, 3:52?pm, HK wrote:

No, it isn't. I'm not much of a fan of the music "created" by oddly
shaped guitars-

I am!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1Vjw...eature=related

Nice, I have the G3 Live in Tokyo DVD with Vai, Satriani, and
Petrucci. I think I will have to pull it out and see if I can find an
oddly shaped guitar and play along

Harry would never make a decent musician because of his narrow minded
views toward, well, everything. Most real, talented musicians love to
cross over to other genres and jamb with other musicians of other
genres.

Pablo Casals (cello) and Andres Segovia (guitar) are just two examples
of extremely narrow minded but completely "decent" musicians. They
both spoke very harshly about how all music other than their own was
total crap. There are countless others who are very accomplished
musically, but feel the same way. I'm not, of course suggesting that
all great musicians are narrow minded.

I'm sure there are other reasions why Harry would never make a decent
musician, but that isn't one of them.

And Segovia, and Jorge Morale, are two of the greatest inspiration to
the likes of Al DiMeola and Paco DeLuccia. two of the most open minded
cross genera guitarists alive.

On Jan 29, 7:02*pm, Tim wrote:
wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:43:03 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Jan 28, 11:37?pm, wrote:
On Jan 28, 11:29?pm, Tim wrote:

On Jan 28, 3:52?pm, HK wrote:

No, it isn't. I'm not much of a fan of the music "created" by oddly
shaped guitars-

I am!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1Vjw...eature=related

Nice, I have the G3 Live in Tokyo DVD with Vai, Satriani, and
Petrucci. I think I will have to pull it out and see if I can find an
oddly shaped guitar and play along

Harry would never make a decent musician because of his narrow minded
views toward, well, everything. Most real, talented musicians love to
cross over to other genres and jamb with other musicians of other
genres.

Pablo Casals (cello) and Andres Segovia (guitar) are just two examples
of extremely narrow minded but completely "decent" musicians. They
both spoke very harshly about how all music other than their own was
total crap. There are countless others who are very accomplished
musically, but feel the same way. I'm not, of course suggesting that
all great musicians are narrow minded.

I'm sure there are other reasions why Harry would never make a decent
musician, but that isn't one of them.

And Segovia, and Jorge Morale, *are two of the greatest inspiration to
the likes of Al DiMeola and Paco DeLuccia. two of the most open minded
cross genera guitarists alive.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

For the sake of my participation in discussions about guitars and
such, I will note that not one of these names is even familiar to
me...;( guess I will just stick to making noise

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:02:45 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:



wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:43:03 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Jan 28, 11:37?pm, wrote:
On Jan 28, 11:29?pm, Tim wrote:

On Jan 28, 3:52?pm, HK wrote:

No, it isn't. I'm not much of a fan of the music "created" by oddly
shaped guitars-

I am!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1Vjw...eature=related

Nice, I have the G3 Live in Tokyo DVD with Vai, Satriani, and
Petrucci. I think I will have to pull it out and see if I can find an
oddly shaped guitar and play along

Harry would never make a decent musician because of his narrow minded
views toward, well, everything. Most real, talented musicians love to
cross over to other genres and jamb with other musicians of other
genres.

Pablo Casals (cello) and Andres Segovia (guitar) are just two examples
of extremely narrow minded but completely "decent" musicians. They
both spoke very harshly about how all music other than their own was
total crap. There are countless others who are very accomplished
musically, but feel the same way. I'm not, of course suggesting that
all great musicians are narrow minded.

I'm sure there are other reasions why Harry would never make a decent
musician, but that isn't one of them.

And Segovia, and Jorge Morale, are two of the greatest inspiration to
the likes of Al DiMeola and Paco DeLuccia. two of the most open minded
cross genera guitarists alive.

Segovia wasn't somebody that I really appreciated much. As a
technician, brilliant. As an artist - eh.

I like DiMeola's music.

However, I have always appreciated Django Reinhardt. Definitely an
air head, but his music is uncompromised.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Django_Reinhardt

Also a big fan of Acoustic Alchemy and Greg Carmichael in particular.
Nick Webb was a great arranger/player in the original band and when he
passed, Carmichael brought in Miles Gilderdale who is a very
unheralded guitarist.

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On Jan 29, 6:59 pm, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Jan 29, 5:19 pm, HK wrote:
Calif Bill wrote:
wrote in message
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On Jan 29, 2:40 am, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"HK" wrote in message
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wrote:
One of the delights of New Haven in those days was the mish-mash of
cultures and religions, to the point where no group or sect really
dominated. The public schools did close, though, on the Jewish high
holidays, for which everyone was thankful!
The only kid in my grammar school days that didn't do "the pledge"
quietly
stood in the back of the room while the rest of us went through the
morning ritual.
I remember asking him one day why he didn't do it. (this was like 5th
grade) He told me he was a Jehovah's Witness and they didn't believe in
it.
I didn't know what a Jehovah's Witness was from the man in the moon, but
I
thought it was cool and said, "Ok".
Eisboch
My best friend all though high school was and still is a JW. 3 of us ran
around together. One JW, one Jew and me the agnostic. No religious
battles, as no one tried to force any religion on the others. When I
married a Catholic girl in a Catholic Church, with the Monsigeur
presiding,
the JW was my best man and had to teach me how to genuflect. He also did
not say the pledge and did not get in trouble. And this was in the
1950's.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yes, but your school, like the schools here in CT had not dismissed
the pledge for those who wanted to participate, also a moment of
silence I would imagine.. But no matter, we all know what we are
argueing with an ideology, not historical facts...
True. And we used to "Duck and Cover". My parents said if we get attacked
just come home. Forget about the Duck and cover. We were toast anyway.
There were evacuation plans for the SF Bay area. Yup, all these people were
going to drive towards Sacramento, on US-40. A 2 lane eachway highway.
It's amazing how some here go from the specific to the general.
As an example, the fact that some schools in a state didn't bother with
school prayer or the pledge does not mean that many, most, or all
schools in the state followed the same practice, especially with
independent, local school boards. I grew up in a part of southern
Connecticut that at the time was a lot more progressive than the more
rural parts of the state in the far northeast or northwest counties.
It's also amazing how some of the "great thinkers" here devolved a
conversation down to the level of religious conversion, which I
explained at least three times in plain language was NOT what I was
talking about.
The "d'oh" factor is alive and well in rec.boats.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I guess you told me
I told you THREE times I was not talking about religious converters.
THREE times. Yet you insisted on bringing that up over and over and over.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I like to see you get excited..


You'd have to be my wife naked, or Jennifer Lopez or Salma Hayek almost
naked and knocking on the door for me to get excited.