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Aluminum boats welding (Hewes, Duckworth, Bolton)
Finally going to make the plunge and buy an aluminum boat, but i am
confused. Our goal is to buy a boat that will last for many years to come and also turn heads when on the water. The more i talk to salesman the more BS i hear. What should i be looking for as far as the quality of the welds, some look like art and some look like my son who is 12 tried to weld for the first time. Does the apperance of the weld matter? We are looking at a 200 Sea Runner Hewes Craft right now, any comments would help at this point Thanks |
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... Finally going to make the plunge and buy an aluminum boat, but i am confused. Our goal is to buy a boat that will last for many years to come and also turn heads when on the water. The more i talk to salesman the more BS i hear. What should i be looking for as far as the quality of the welds, some look like art and some look like my son who is 12 tried to weld for the first time. Does the apperance of the weld matter? We are looking at a 200 Sea Runner Hewes Craft right now, any comments would help at this point Thanks I own a Lund, and the company makes a big selling point of the fact that their aluminum hulls are double riveted. Welding is not mentioned anywhere in their literature, as far as I've noticed. I've been beating the crap out of the boat since 1999 and it's as tight as the day it was new. www.lundboats.com |
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On Jan 11, 8:34*pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
wrote in message ... Finally going to make the plunge and buy an aluminum boat, but i am confused. Our goal is to buy a boat that will last for many years to come and also turn heads when on the water. The more i talk to salesman the more BS i hear. *What should i be looking for as far as the quality of the welds, some look like art and some look like my son who is 12 tried to weld for the first time. Does the apperance of the weld matter? We are looking at a 200 Sea Runner Hewes Craft right now, any comments would help at this point Thanks I own a Lund, and the company makes a big selling point of the fact that their aluminum hulls are double riveted. Welding is not mentioned anywhere in their literature, as far as I've noticed. I've been beating the crap out of the boat since 1999 and it's as tight as the day it was new. www.lundboats.com Thanks for the feedback I appreciate your coment about rivetted boats but my wife said noway to riveted boats, he dad had one and it always leaked. Infact you should have seen the dirty looks she gave one of the salesman when he was trying to sale us on a riveted boat. What would you look for or like to see as far as welds? |
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... On Jan 11, 8:34 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... Finally going to make the plunge and buy an aluminum boat, but i am confused. Our goal is to buy a boat that will last for many years to come and also turn heads when on the water. The more i talk to salesman the more BS i hear. What should i be looking for as far as the quality of the welds, some look like art and some look like my son who is 12 tried to weld for the first time. Does the apperance of the weld matter? We are looking at a 200 Sea Runner Hewes Craft right now, any comments would help at this point Thanks I own a Lund, and the company makes a big selling point of the fact that their aluminum hulls are double riveted. Welding is not mentioned anywhere in their literature, as far as I've noticed. I've been beating the crap out of the boat since 1999 and it's as tight as the day it was new. www.lundboats.com Thanks for the feedback I appreciate your coment about rivetted boats but my wife said noway to riveted boats, he dad had one and it always leaked. Infact you should have seen the dirty looks she gave one of the salesman when he was trying to sale us on a riveted boat. What would you look for or like to see as far as welds? ================ I have no idea what to look for with welds. Tell your wife that her dad bought a ****ty boat, and she should not judge all riveted boats based on her father's bad judgement and low budget. If she's such a shmexpert, maybe she should be designing boats. |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Jan 11, 8:34 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... Finally going to make the plunge and buy an aluminum boat, but i am confused. Our goal is to buy a boat that will last for many years to come and also turn heads when on the water. The more i talk to salesman the more BS i hear. What should i be looking for as far as the quality of the welds, some look like art and some look like my son who is 12 tried to weld for the first time. Does the apperance of the weld matter? We are looking at a 200 Sea Runner Hewes Craft right now, any comments would help at this point Thanks I own a Lund, and the company makes a big selling point of the fact that their aluminum hulls are double riveted. Welding is not mentioned anywhere in their literature, as far as I've noticed. I've been beating the crap out of the boat since 1999 and it's as tight as the day it was new. www.lundboats.com Thanks for the feedback I appreciate your coment about rivetted boats but my wife said noway to riveted boats, he dad had one and it always leaked. Infact you should have seen the dirty looks she gave one of the salesman when he was trying to sale us on a riveted boat. What would you look for or like to see as far as welds? ================ I have no idea what to look for with welds. Tell your wife that her dad bought a ****ty boat, and she should not judge all riveted boats based on her father's bad judgement and low budget. If she's such a shmexpert, maybe she should be designing boats. You can buy a much better welded aluminum boat than a Riveted Fisher for about the same money or less. Go to http://www.boatingsportsman.com/ and register for the forums or just browse the forums. Was Riverjetboat magazine up till this month. The welds should look good on the upper end boats. Hewes makes a good boat. Not the best, but will last and give you good service. Joe, your boat is not in the same league with the boats he is looking at. These are a minimum 3/16 (0.190) thick aluminum. The newer boats should have great looking welds as the equipment is so much better than when they built mine in 1991. Only leak I had was a corrosion leak 2 years ago. The crap blocked the drain hole from the anchor locker and there was probably a piece of copper wire in there from the trolling motor connection. Depends if you want a jet drive or a prop boat. Boulton makes really nice boats of both designs. Bruce Wasson of Rogue makes great jet drives. Precision weld and HCM Hells Canyon Marine make super top quality custom boats, but you are looking at $80-100K. North River makes a very good cookie cutter boat in both jet and prop. |
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Aluminum boats welding (Hewes, Duckworth, Bolton)
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... Finally going to make the plunge and buy an aluminum boat, but i am confused. Our goal is to buy a boat that will last for many years to come and also turn heads when on the water. The more i talk to salesman the more BS i hear. What should i be looking for as far as the quality of the welds, some look like art and some look like my son who is 12 tried to weld for the first time. Does the apperance of the weld matter? We are looking at a 200 Sea Runner Hewes Craft right now, any comments would help at this point Thanks I own a Lund, and the company makes a big selling point of the fact that their aluminum hulls are double riveted. Welding is not mentioned anywhere in their literature, as far as I've noticed. I've been beating the crap out of the boat since 1999 and it's as tight as the day it was new. www.lundboats.com Same with Princecraft. hulls rivited...same as high stress airplane bodies. scroll down to... 'proven fastening methods' http://www.princecraft.com/Content/e...ing_boats.aspx |
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On Jan 11, 9:19*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Jan 11, 8:34 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message .... Finally going to make the plunge and buy an aluminum boat, but i am confused. Our goal is to buy a boat that will last for many years to come and also turn heads when on the water. The more i talk to salesman the more BS i hear. What should i be looking for as far as the quality of the welds, some look like art and some look like my son who is 12 tried to weld for the first time. Does the apperance of the weld matter? We are looking at a 200 Sea Runner Hewes Craft right now, any comments would help at this point Thanks I own a Lund, and the company makes a big selling point of the fact that their aluminum hulls are double riveted. Welding is not mentioned anywhere in their literature, as far as I've noticed. I've been beating the crap out of the boat since 1999 and it's as tight as the day it was new. www.lundboats.com Thanks for the feedback I appreciate your coment about rivetted boats but my wife said noway to riveted boats, he dad had one and it always leaked. Infact you should have seen the dirty looks she gave one of the salesman when he was trying to sale us on a riveted boat. What would you look for or like to see as far as welds? ================ I have no idea what to look for with welds. Tell your wife that her dad bought a ****ty boat, and she should not judge all riveted boats based on her father's bad judgement and low budget. If she's such a shmexpert, maybe she should be designing boats. You can buy a much better welded aluminum boat than a Riveted Fisher for about the same money or less. Go tohttp://www.boatingsportsman.com/and register for the forums or just browse the forums. *Was Riverjetboat magazine up till this month. *The welds should look good on the upper end boats. *Hewes makes a good boat. *Not the best, but will last and give you good service. *Joe, your boat is not in the same league with the boats he is looking at. *These are a minimum 3/16 (0.190) thick aluminum. *The newer boats should have great looking welds as the equipment is so much better than when they built mine in 1991. *Only leak I had was a corrosion leak 2 years ago. *The crap blocked the drain hole from the anchor locker and there was probably a piece of copper wire in there from the trolling motor connection. * Depends if you want a jet drive or a prop boat. *Boulton makes really nice boats of both designs. *Bruce Wasson of Rogue makes great jet drives. *Precision weld and HCM Hells Canyon Marine make super top quality custom boats, but you are looking at $80-100K. North River makes a very good cookie cutter boat in both jet and prop.- Hide quoted text - Show quoted text - Thanks Bolton and Hewes are the ones i like so far they both brag of long lasting quality we also looked at both brands of what they call the kuddy cabins |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
... Joe, your boat is not in the same league with the boats he is looking at. How so? |
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"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... Joe, your boat is not in the same league with the boats he is looking at. How so? Thickness of aluminum. Bracing. General construction. I have owned riveted boats. Valco. The rivets will loosen over time. The aluminum will flex. The Northwest boats were designed to run white water rivers with rocks. Jet drives required. But since then people found out how good they were and wanted propeller drives for efficiency or what ever. So the same construction methods for the boat are used in the propeller boats. My boat is 3/16 thick bottom. Welded I-beam reinforcements inside the bottom. Depending on the manufacturer some are using boxed stringers. All aluminum. Lund makes a great boat, they just do not have the strength of the Northwest boats. The NW boats also weigh more. My 21' Chevy engine boat with the 67 gallon tank full scales about 3300#. I have higher sides than a lot of the pure river sleds, so probably 300# more or less extra. |
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Aluminum boats welding (Hewes, Duckworth, Bolton)
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Jan 11, 8:34 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: wrote in message ... Finally going to make the plunge and buy an aluminum boat, but i am confused. Our goal is to buy a boat that will last for many years to come and also turn heads when on the water. The more i talk to salesman the more BS i hear. What should i be looking for as far as the quality of the welds, some look like art and some look like my son who is 12 tried to weld for the first time. Does the apperance of the weld matter? We are looking at a 200 Sea Runner Hewes Craft right now, any comments would help at this point Thanks I own a Lund, and the company makes a big selling point of the fact that their aluminum hulls are double riveted. Welding is not mentioned anywhere in their literature, as far as I've noticed. I've been beating the crap out of the boat since 1999 and it's as tight as the day it was new. www.lundboats.com Thanks for the feedback I appreciate your coment about rivetted boats but my wife said noway to riveted boats, he dad had one and it always leaked. Infact you should have seen the dirty looks she gave one of the salesman when he was trying to sale us on a riveted boat. What would you look for or like to see as far as welds? ================ I have no idea what to look for with welds. Tell your wife that her dad bought a ****ty boat, and she should not judge all riveted boats based on her father's bad judgement and low budget. If she's such a shmexpert, maybe she should be designing boats. The OP should research why the skin on aluminum airplanes are riveted rather than welded. Hint: It has something to do with preventing the wings from snapping off. Eisboch |
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