"HK" wrote in message news
D-unit wrote:
Small offset printing Gene.

We make IR dryers/Powder Spray attachments
for the 11x17 market (and a few larger ones)

AB Dick, ATF Davidson, Multigraphics, Heidelberg, etc...

We have a machine shop and make all our own parts (I think
Im going to miss having access to that the most. It came in
quite handy back during the Maco refurb days. I could walk
in with a mini-project back in those days and 3 guys would
fight over who was going to get to work on it.)



Don




"Gene Kearns" wrote in message ...
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:28:13 -0500, D-unit penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|I've worked for the same
|company for 23 years (printing/machining ) and
|watched our industry dwindle slowly since the early
|90's.

Doing what? Rotogravure? Blanking? Steel Rule Dies/Embossing?

Been there done that.... it sucks....

--

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I've love to have a nice 11x17 offset press. It's the workhorse of all
manner of campaigns!

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

Hell,

AB Dick 360's are practically free these days.
Supplies aren't however.

db

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...

"HK" wrote in message
news
D-unit wrote:
Small offset printing Gene.

We make IR dryers/Powder Spray attachments
for the 11x17 market (and a few larger ones)

AB Dick, ATF Davidson, Multigraphics, Heidelberg, etc...

We have a machine shop and make all our own parts (I think
Im going to miss having access to that the most. It came in
quite handy back during the Maco refurb days. I could walk
in with a mini-project back in those days and 3 guys would
fight over who was going to get to work on it.)



Don




"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:28:13 -0500, D-unit penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|I've worked for the same
|company for 23 years (printing/machining ) and
|watched our industry dwindle slowly since the early
|90's.

Doing what? Rotogravure? Blanking? Steel Rule Dies/Embossing?

Been there done that.... it sucks....

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

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I've love to have a nice 11x17 offset press. It's the workhorse of all
manner of campaigns!

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

Hell,

AB Dick 360's are practically free these days.
Supplies aren't however.

db

My brother was president of AB Dick in the early 90's.

"D.Duck" wrote in message ...

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...

"HK" wrote in message
news
D-unit wrote:
Small offset printing Gene.

We make IR dryers/Powder Spray attachments
for the 11x17 market (and a few larger ones)

AB Dick, ATF Davidson, Multigraphics, Heidelberg, etc...

We have a machine shop and make all our own parts (I think
Im going to miss having access to that the most. It came in
quite handy back during the Maco refurb days. I could walk
in with a mini-project back in those days and 3 guys would
fight over who was going to get to work on it.)



Don




"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:28:13 -0500, D-unit penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|I've worked for the same
|company for 23 years (printing/machining ) and
|watched our industry dwindle slowly since the early
|90's.

Doing what? Rotogravure? Blanking? Steel Rule Dies/Embossing?

Been there done that.... it sucks....

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

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I've love to have a nice 11x17 offset press. It's the workhorse of all
manner of campaigns!

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

Hell,

AB Dick 360's are practically free these days.
Supplies aren't however.

db

My brother was president of AB Dick in the early 90's.



Those were the days my friend. AB Dick was manufacturing 28
9800 series presses a day, and our equipment installed
on about 1/2 of those. I visited the factory on Touhy Ave. many
times back in those days. That building was massive.
(never met the prez. though, just the marketing/tech guys)
Fun times indeed.

They have since been bought out by "Presstech".


db

On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 09:18:51 -0500, "D-unit" cof42_AT_embarqmail.com
wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message ...

"D-unit" cof42_AT_embarqmail.com wrote in message
...

"HK" wrote in message
news D-unit wrote:
Small offset printing Gene.

We make IR dryers/Powder Spray attachments
for the 11x17 market (and a few larger ones)

AB Dick, ATF Davidson, Multigraphics, Heidelberg, etc...

We have a machine shop and make all our own parts (I think
Im going to miss having access to that the most. It came in
quite handy back during the Maco refurb days. I could walk
in with a mini-project back in those days and 3 guys would
fight over who was going to get to work on it.)



Don




"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:28:13 -0500, D-unit penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|I've worked for the same
|company for 23 years (printing/machining ) and
|watched our industry dwindle slowly since the early
|90's.

Doing what? Rotogravure? Blanking? Steel Rule Dies/Embossing?

Been there done that.... it sucks....

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

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I've love to have a nice 11x17 offset press. It's the workhorse of all
manner of campaigns!

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

Hell,

AB Dick 360's are practically free these days.
Supplies aren't however.

db

My brother was president of AB Dick in the early 90's.



Those were the days my friend. AB Dick was manufacturing 28
9800 series presses a day, and our equipment installed
on about 1/2 of those. I visited the factory on Touhy Ave. many
times back in those days. That building was massive.
(never met the prez. though, just the marketing/tech guys)
Fun times indeed.

They have since been bought out by "Presstech".

My ma was a linotype operator in Chicago, finishing out with Black
Dot. Set the type for Playboy for years, and remarked about how
many revisions they did to "Letters to the Editor."
That's my only connection to printing.

--Vic

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...

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"D-unit" cof42_AT_embarqmail.com wrote in message
...

"HK" wrote in message
news D-unit wrote:
Small offset printing Gene.

We make IR dryers/Powder Spray attachments
for the 11x17 market (and a few larger ones)

AB Dick, ATF Davidson, Multigraphics, Heidelberg, etc...

We have a machine shop and make all our own parts (I think
Im going to miss having access to that the most. It came in
quite handy back during the Maco refurb days. I could walk
in with a mini-project back in those days and 3 guys would
fight over who was going to get to work on it.)



Don




"Gene Kearns" wrote in
message
...
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:28:13 -0500, D-unit penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|I've worked for the same
|company for 23 years (printing/machining ) and
|watched our industry dwindle slowly since the early
|90's.

Doing what? Rotogravure? Blanking? Steel Rule Dies/Embossing?

Been there done that.... it sucks....

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

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I've love to have a nice 11x17 offset press. It's the workhorse of all
manner of campaigns!

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

Hell,

AB Dick 360's are practically free these days.
Supplies aren't however.

db

My brother was president of AB Dick in the early 90's.



Those were the days my friend. AB Dick was manufacturing 28
9800 series presses a day, and our equipment installed
on about 1/2 of those. I visited the factory on Touhy Ave. many
times back in those days. That building was massive.
(never met the prez. though, just the marketing/tech guys)
Fun times indeed.

They have since been bought out by "Presstech".


db

Yep, my brother said when British GE, I think that was the name, bought ABD,
the hand writing was on the wall.

As a point of interest, my brother and I grew up about 5 miles west of ABD
and two blocks south of Touhy. I, not he, hunted rabbits in the '50s on the
land where ABD now stands.

I started my career with AT&T across the street from ABD at what in the 60s
was Teletype Corp. We moved out of that building in '89 and moved to
Naperville. Then in '92 I transferred down here to Florida and retired in
'94. Haven't been back in the winter since!

"D.Duck" wrote in message ...

"D-unit" cof42_AT_embarqmail.com wrote in message
...

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

"D-unit" cof42_AT_embarqmail.com wrote in message
...

"HK" wrote in message
news D-unit wrote:
Small offset printing Gene.

We make IR dryers/Powder Spray attachments
for the 11x17 market (and a few larger ones)

AB Dick, ATF Davidson, Multigraphics, Heidelberg, etc...

We have a machine shop and make all our own parts (I think
Im going to miss having access to that the most. It came in
quite handy back during the Maco refurb days. I could walk
in with a mini-project back in those days and 3 guys would
fight over who was going to get to work on it.)



Don




"Gene Kearns" wrote in
message
...
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:28:13 -0500, D-unit penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|I've worked for the same
|company for 23 years (printing/machining ) and
|watched our industry dwindle slowly since the early
|90's.

Doing what? Rotogravure? Blanking? Steel Rule Dies/Embossing?

Been there done that.... it sucks....

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

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I've love to have a nice 11x17 offset press. It's the workhorse of all
manner of campaigns!

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

Hell,

AB Dick 360's are practically free these days.
Supplies aren't however.

db

My brother was president of AB Dick in the early 90's.



Those were the days my friend. AB Dick was manufacturing 28
9800 series presses a day, and our equipment installed
on about 1/2 of those. I visited the factory on Touhy Ave. many
times back in those days. That building was massive.
(never met the prez. though, just the marketing/tech guys)
Fun times indeed.

They have since been bought out by "Presstech".


db

Yep, my brother said when British GE, I think that was the name, bought ABD,
the hand writing was on the wall.

As a point of interest, my brother and I grew up about 5 miles west of ABD
and two blocks south of Touhy. I, not he, hunted rabbits in the '50s on the
land where ABD now stands.


How cool is that?


I started my career with AT&T across the street from ABD at what in the 60s
was Teletype Corp. We moved out of that building in '89 and moved to
Naperville. Then in '92 I transferred down here to Florida and retired in
'94. Haven't been back in the winter since!


I hope to one day follow in your retirement footsteps in FL. (or at least
do the snowbird thing). We love RV-ing.


Don

"D-unit" cof42_AT_embarqmail.com wrote in message
...

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

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...

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

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...

"HK" wrote in message
news D-unit wrote:
Small offset printing Gene.

We make IR dryers/Powder Spray attachments
for the 11x17 market (and a few larger ones)

AB Dick, ATF Davidson, Multigraphics, Heidelberg, etc...

We have a machine shop and make all our own parts (I think
Im going to miss having access to that the most. It came in
quite handy back during the Maco refurb days. I could walk
in with a mini-project back in those days and 3 guys would
fight over who was going to get to work on it.)



Don




"Gene Kearns" wrote in
message
...
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:28:13 -0500, D-unit penned the following
well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|I've worked for the same
|company for 23 years (printing/machining ) and
|watched our industry dwindle slowly since the early
|90's.

Doing what? Rotogravure? Blanking? Steel Rule Dies/Embossing?

Been there done that.... it sucks....

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats
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I've love to have a nice 11x17 offset press. It's the workhorse of
all
manner of campaigns!

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

Hell,

AB Dick 360's are practically free these days.
Supplies aren't however.

db

My brother was president of AB Dick in the early 90's.



Those were the days my friend. AB Dick was manufacturing 28
9800 series presses a day, and our equipment installed
on about 1/2 of those. I visited the factory on Touhy Ave. many
times back in those days. That building was massive.
(never met the prez. though, just the marketing/tech guys)
Fun times indeed.

They have since been bought out by "Presstech".


db

Yep, my brother said when British GE, I think that was the name, bought
ABD,
the hand writing was on the wall.

As a point of interest, my brother and I grew up about 5 miles west of
ABD
and two blocks south of Touhy. I, not he, hunted rabbits in the '50s on
the
land where ABD now stands.


How cool is that?


I started my career with AT&T across the street from ABD at what in the
60s
was Teletype Corp. We moved out of that building in '89 and moved to
Naperville. Then in '92 I transferred down here to Florida and retired
in
'94. Haven't been back in the winter since!


I hope to one day follow in your retirement footsteps in FL. (or at least
do the snowbird thing). We love RV-ing.


Don


Better rethink your choice of retirement spots. Florida is pretty full, why
not try Arizona? ;)

D-unit wrote:
"HK" wrote in message news
D-unit wrote:
Small offset printing Gene.

We make IR dryers/Powder Spray attachments
for the 11x17 market (and a few larger ones)

AB Dick, ATF Davidson, Multigraphics, Heidelberg, etc...

We have a machine shop and make all our own parts (I think
Im going to miss having access to that the most. It came in
quite handy back during the Maco refurb days. I could walk
in with a mini-project back in those days and 3 guys would
fight over who was going to get to work on it.)



Don




"Gene Kearns" wrote in message ...
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:28:13 -0500, D-unit penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|I've worked for the same
|company for 23 years (printing/machining ) and
|watched our industry dwindle slowly since the early
|90's.

Doing what? Rotogravure? Blanking? Steel Rule Dies/Embossing?

Been there done that.... it sucks....

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats
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I've love to have a nice 11x17 offset press. It's the workhorse of all
manner of campaigns!

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

Hell,

AB Dick 360's are practically free these days.
Supplies aren't however.


HP practically gives away printers. But, charges an arm and a leg for a
toner or ink cartridge.

On Jan 2, 7:21*pm, BAR wrote:
D-unit wrote:
"HK" wrote in messagenewsvydnfmi0MgXUubanZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@comca st.com...
D-unit wrote:
Small offset printing Gene.

We make IR dryers/Powder Spray attachments
for the 11x17 market (and a few larger ones)

AB Dick, ATF Davidson, Multigraphics, Heidelberg, etc...

We have a machine shop and make all our own parts (I think
Im going to miss having access to that the most. *It came in
quite handy back during the Maco refurb days. I could walk
in with a mini-project back in those days and 3 guys would
fight over who was going to get to work on it.)

Don

"Gene Kearns" wrote in messagenews:lginn39h5lp82o6rqkpjacrmpj1afh0l2u@4ax .com...
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:28:13 -0500, D-unit penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|I've worked for the same
|company for 23 years (printing/machining ) and
|watched our industry dwindle slowly since the early
|90's.

Doing what? Rotogravure? Blanking? Steel Rule Dies/Embossing?

Been there done that.... it sucks....

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats
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I've love to have a nice 11x17 offset press. It's the workhorse of all
manner of campaigns!

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

Hell,

AB Dick 360's are practically free these days.
Supplies aren't however.

HP practically gives away printers. But, charges an arm and a leg for a
toner or ink cartridge.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

We did the math one day on ink and it came to over $5,000 per gallon.
It is a raquet. If Blumental wants to go after unfair business
practices, he should check out the major printer companies.
(Blumental refers to the CT states atty. gen. Very prominent in the
spanking microsoft took over the last years...)

wrote:
On Jan 2, 7:21 pm, BAR wrote:
D-unit wrote:
"HK" wrote in messagenewsvydnfmi0MgXUubanZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@comca st.com...
D-unit wrote:
Small offset printing Gene.
We make IR dryers/Powder Spray attachments
for the 11x17 market (and a few larger ones)
AB Dick, ATF Davidson, Multigraphics, Heidelberg, etc...
We have a machine shop and make all our own parts (I think
Im going to miss having access to that the most. It came in
quite handy back during the Maco refurb days. I could walk
in with a mini-project back in those days and 3 guys would
fight over who was going to get to work on it.)
Don
"Gene Kearns" wrote in messagenews:lginn39h5lp82o6rqkpjacrmpj1afh0l2u@4ax .com...
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:28:13 -0500, D-unit penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
|I've worked for the same
|company for 23 years (printing/machining ) and
|watched our industry dwindle slowly since the early
|90's.
Doing what? Rotogravure? Blanking? Steel Rule Dies/Embossing?
Been there done that.... it sucks....
--
Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.
Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/
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I've love to have a nice 11x17 offset press. It's the workhorse of all
manner of campaigns!
--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!
Hell,
AB Dick 360's are practically free these days.
Supplies aren't however.
HP practically gives away printers. But, charges an arm and a leg for a
toner or ink cartridge.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

We did the math one day on ink and it came to over $5,000 per gallon.
It is a raquet. If Blumental wants to go after unfair business
practices, he should check out the major printer companies.
(Blumental refers to the CT states atty. gen. Very prominent in the
spanking microsoft took over the last years...)

But, its the process of getting the $5,000 per gallon ink in the
cartridges that costs all of the money isn't it?