"Eisboch" wrote in message news
Having a small company that is involved in large, capital equipment type
contracts has certain advantages. One of them, that I noticed years ago, is
that the level of new orders almost always reflects an accurate prediction
of which way the general economy was heading, usually about 6 months before
it became a current topic of discussion in the media.

Last year my former company (now my oldest son's) had a tough year with a
major slowdown in new order activity and, in some cases, cancellation or
postponement of planned orders by several customers. The situation was not
unique to the company as many others involved in similar, high cost capital
equipment businesses experienced the same slowdown.

This has all changed. In the past 30 days the company has received over $6M
in new contracts and the quoting activity for more has picked up
substantially. If this continues, and past history says it will, 2008 will
be a very busy year. I'll betcha that by May or June all the talk will be
about how robust the US economy is.

Eisboch



I hope you're right but I doubt it. The housing market
is up to its eyeballs in forclosures with more to come and
credit card debt is at an all time high.

I've worked for the same
company for 23 years (printing/machining ) and
watched our industry dwindle slowly since the early
90's. Things have sucked pretty bad for the last 2 years
and its a miricle we're still here. Unfortunately, the
writing is on the wall as we have enough money left
for about 1 more pay period. Too bad its not boating
season as it looks like I might have some free time on
my hands coming up.

Don

On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:28:13 -0500, D-unit penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|I've worked for the same
|company for 23 years (printing/machining ) and
|watched our industry dwindle slowly since the early
|90's.

Doing what? Rotogravure? Blanking? Steel Rule Dies/Embossing?

Been there done that.... it sucks....

--

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Small offset printing Gene.

We make IR dryers/Powder Spray attachments
for the 11x17 market (and a few larger ones)

AB Dick, ATF Davidson, Multigraphics, Heidelberg, etc...

We have a machine shop and make all our own parts (I think
Im going to miss having access to that the most. It came in
quite handy back during the Maco refurb days. I could walk
in with a mini-project back in those days and 3 guys would
fight over who was going to get to work on it.)



Don




"Gene Kearns" wrote in message ...
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:28:13 -0500, D-unit penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|I've worked for the same
|company for 23 years (printing/machining ) and
|watched our industry dwindle slowly since the early
|90's.

Doing what? Rotogravure? Blanking? Steel Rule Dies/Embossing?

Been there done that.... it sucks....

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

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D-unit wrote:
Small offset printing Gene.

We make IR dryers/Powder Spray attachments
for the 11x17 market (and a few larger ones)

AB Dick, ATF Davidson, Multigraphics, Heidelberg, etc...

We have a machine shop and make all our own parts (I think
Im going to miss having access to that the most. It came in
quite handy back during the Maco refurb days. I could walk
in with a mini-project back in those days and 3 guys would
fight over who was going to get to work on it.)



Don




"Gene Kearns" wrote in message ...
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:28:13 -0500, D-unit penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|I've worked for the same
|company for 23 years (printing/machining ) and
|watched our industry dwindle slowly since the early
|90's.

Doing what? Rotogravure? Blanking? Steel Rule Dies/Embossing?

Been there done that.... it sucks....

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

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I've love to have a nice 11x17 offset press. It's the workhorse of all
manner of campaigns!

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

HK wrote:
D-unit wrote:
Small offset printing Gene.

We make IR dryers/Powder Spray attachments
for the 11x17 market (and a few larger ones)

AB Dick, ATF Davidson, Multigraphics, Heidelberg, etc...

We have a machine shop and make all our own parts (I think
Im going to miss having access to that the most. It came in
quite handy back during the Maco refurb days. I could walk
in with a mini-project back in those days and 3 guys would
fight over who was going to get to work on it.)



Don




"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:28:13 -0500, D-unit penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|I've worked for the same
|company for 23 years (printing/machining ) and
|watched our industry dwindle slowly since the early
|90's.

Doing what? Rotogravure? Blanking? Steel Rule Dies/Embossing?

Been there done that.... it sucks....

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

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I've love to have a nice 11x17 offset press. It's the workhorse of all
manner of campaigns!


Why don't you buy one?

"HK" wrote in message news
D-unit wrote:
Small offset printing Gene.

We make IR dryers/Powder Spray attachments
for the 11x17 market (and a few larger ones)

AB Dick, ATF Davidson, Multigraphics, Heidelberg, etc...

We have a machine shop and make all our own parts (I think
Im going to miss having access to that the most. It came in
quite handy back during the Maco refurb days. I could walk
in with a mini-project back in those days and 3 guys would
fight over who was going to get to work on it.)



Don




"Gene Kearns" wrote in message ...
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:28:13 -0500, D-unit penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|I've worked for the same
|company for 23 years (printing/machining ) and
|watched our industry dwindle slowly since the early
|90's.

Doing what? Rotogravure? Blanking? Steel Rule Dies/Embossing?

Been there done that.... it sucks....

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.idleplay.net/

Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide
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I've love to have a nice 11x17 offset press. It's the workhorse of all
manner of campaigns!

--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

Hell,

AB Dick 360's are practically free these days.
Supplies aren't however.

db

On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 12:35:09 -0500, D-unit penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|Small offset printing Gene.
|
|We make IR dryers/Powder Spray attachments
|for the 11x17 market (and a few larger ones)
|
|AB Dick, ATF Davidson, Multigraphics, Heidelberg, etc...
|
|We have a machine shop and make all our own parts (I think
|Im going to miss having access to that the most. It came in
|quite handy back during the Maco refurb days. I could walk
|in with a mini-project back in those days and 3 guys would
|fight over who was going to get to work on it.)

Gotcha.... most of the stuff I worked on was for much larger
presses... though I've spent my time in hell pulling the handles on
Multiliths and a few ABDs.... before moving into the die and blanking
industry

--

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

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"D-unit" cof42_AT_embarqmail.com wrote in message
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I hope you're right but I doubt it. The housing market
is up to its eyeballs in forclosures with more to come and
credit card debt is at an all time high.

I've worked for the same
company for 23 years (printing/machining ) and
watched our industry dwindle slowly since the early
90's. Things have sucked pretty bad for the last 2 years
and its a miricle we're still here. Unfortunately, the
writing is on the wall as we have enough money left
for about 1 more pay period. Too bad its not boating
season as it looks like I might have some free time on
my hands coming up.

Don

I hate to hear stories like that. Is the downturn in your industry economy
related or is it due to diminishing requirements for printed material?

Eisboch (went through many close calls over the years)

"Eisboch" wrote in message ...

"D-unit" cof42_AT_embarqmail.com wrote in message
...



I hope you're right but I doubt it. The housing market
is up to its eyeballs in forclosures with more to come and
credit card debt is at an all time high.

I've worked for the same
company for 23 years (printing/machining ) and
watched our industry dwindle slowly since the early
90's. Things have sucked pretty bad for the last 2 years
and its a miricle we're still here. Unfortunately, the
writing is on the wall as we have enough money left
for about 1 more pay period. Too bad its not boating
season as it looks like I might have some free time on
my hands coming up.

Don

I hate to hear stories like that. Is the downturn in your industry economy
related or is it due to diminishing requirements for printed material?

Computer/Digital technology is the culprit. Most folks are happy
with the quality of color copies (or the like) rather than *real*
offset printing.

Eisboch (went through many close calls over the years)


We've had so many I've lost count but Im afraid its a little
too close this time.

Just the same, I hope you're right about the economy. I would
like to see the real estate market rebound soon.

db

On Jan 2, 12:41*pm, "D-unit" cof42_AT_embarqmail.com wrote:
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"D-unit" cof42_AT_embarqmail.com wrote in message
.. .

I hope you're right but I doubt it. *The housing market
is up to its eyeballs in forclosures with more to come and
credit card debt is at an all time high.

I've worked for the same
company for 23 years (printing/machining ) and
watched our industry dwindle slowly since the early
90's. *Things have sucked pretty bad for the last 2 years
and its a miricle we're still here. *Unfortunately, the
writing is on the wall as we have enough money left
for about 1 more pay period. *Too bad its not boating
season as it looks like I might have some free time on
my hands coming up.

Don

I hate to hear stories like that. *Is the downturn in your industry economy
related or is it due to diminishing requirements for printed material?

Computer/Digital technology is the culprit. *Most folks are happy
with the quality of color copies (or the like) rather than *real*
offset printing.



Eisboch *(went through many close calls over the years)

We've had so many I've lost count but Im afraid its a little
too close this time.

Just the same, I hope you're right about the economy. *I would
like to see the real estate market rebound soon.

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Is there a possiblilty that your company could change tactics, perhaps
start getting into computer technology? I personally send
electronically produced drawings to a local shop to have sets made,
stapled and bound. They'll even overnight them via UPS to whomever I
want them to go, then back charge me for it.