On Dec 29, 9:41*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:h0tdn3hnrtf1guphpucrukk9ktr2abopfg@4ax .com...



If it will do what I want it to at better gas milage with a bigger
engine swinging bigger gears with the same high end audio and interior
appointments why would I not buy it?

If it floats your boat, *buy it!

(Get it ... tows your boat, *boat floats .... hehehe)

Eisboch

(watching the Patriots possibly losing for the first time this season.
Exciting game.)

That's funny, I was never even worried. and I really mean that. I
think the Pats were playing to the NFL and the audience. I truly see
Brady as Montana like, to where if he needs one or two touchdowns to
win a game and he has a couple of minutes, he is not even worried he
will go and get them, just like old Joe could. I was however very
impessed with the penetration of NY's defence and the way they
protected Manning...

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On Dec 29, 9:34 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 19:43:35 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"Larry" wrote in message
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"Canuck57" wrote in
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRfE_XAk2mE

I find THIS video much more interesting.....and telling.

What a piece of ****!

That's an impressive demonstration. Obviously done by the Ford folks,
but
damn .... over 3 inches of frame deflection on the Toyota versus under
an
inch on the Ford for the given load.

3 inches seems like a lot of dynamic flex on metal of that length over
time,
even though I am sure both frames are hardened. Probably not anywhere
near
it's yield, but thoughts of longer term metal fatigue start to come to
mind.

By comparison, the Ford suspension is stiffer certainly. And I
suppose that over time and heavy at-the-limits carrying capacity, it
probably is meaningful. But you have to remember that the test is
designed to show "flex" but how often do you load one corner of the
pickup at the max to make it flex like that? The object of load
carrying is to level or center the loads - not put all the weight on
one corner.

On the other hand, I would be interested in seeing what that torture
test track test would look like with the trucks loaded to their
maximums. An empty pickup truck is going to bounce - some more than
others.

That's not what I was really interested in though. I wanted to
compare HD trucks side-by-each in a tow test. I half made up my mind
to get another F-250 when Mrs. Wave said one of her collegues husbands
sold Toyotas - why not try one of those?

I did and was sold on it's ability to tow which is all I'm interested
in. And according to the on-board fuel economy computer the lowest
mpg was 13 and the highest 16 on the highway. Beats the hell out of
my F-150 by comparison at 6 and 10. And it held speed without
shifting on slopes on the highway. It was compariably equipped to the
F-150 and in terms of price - about $12,000 cheaper than a XLT Ford
after rebates and a little price haggling helped by the fact that the
dealer hasn't sold a lot of trucks in the past couple of months.

If it will do what I want it to at better gas milage with a bigger
engine swinging bigger gears with the same high end audio and interior
appointments why would I not buy it?

It's got a magic cargo light which, when used correctly, will make
tailgaters go away.- Hide quoted text -

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Yeah, it's called... Illegal!

+++++++++++


It got turned on by accident, officer. I was fumbling for the dashboard
light switch.

On Dec 30, 4:35*pm, Tim wrote:

Nuts with it.

i always wanted one of these!

http://www.rongeorge.com/albums/ww2armorref/DUKW_1.jpg

That's old WW2 junk.
We have a bunch of Viet Nam era Lark V vehicles clogging up our streets
every summer......http://www.murphysonthewater.com/harbourhopper/-Hide quoted text -

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It MAY be old ww2 junk, but that "junk" in restored condition (as we;;
as the Lark V) is worth more than that overgrown semi-pickup Larry is
braging about.

Besides, the DUKW swims!

On 29-Dec-2007, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote:

The Ford will have less opportunities to flex, since it'll spend less time

in motion, as it waits for various engineering pranks to be fixed.

Like the engineering pranks on my suicide door Ranger, '99, 371,000 + miles,
NO engine or other work except brakes, 8 sets of tires, transmission every
180,000 miles.

Go for the rice burner anyway, who needs jobs?? President Hillary will
furnish most needs, and younger generations can make 6 bucks an hour at
Walmart for playthings and incidentals.

Another thought.......you'll be in better standing with a Toyota when the
U.S. become a thoroughly 3rd world sort-of-a-country.

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:03:44 -0500, "JimH" wrote:


"Tim" wrote in message
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On Dec 30, 4:35 pm, Tim wrote:

Nuts with it.

i always wanted one of these!

http://www.rongeorge.com/albums/ww2armorref/DUKW_1.jpg

That's old WW2 junk.
We have a bunch of Viet Nam era Lark V vehicles clogging up our streets
every summer......http://www.murphysonthewater.com/harbourhopper/-Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It MAY be old ww2 junk, but that "junk" in restored condition (as we;;
as the Lark V) is worth more than that overgrown semi-pickup Larry is
braging about.

Besides, the DUKW swims!
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Pffft!

http://www.terrawind.com/terrawind.htm

That's Harry's kind of boat - it has no transom. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:03:44 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
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On Dec 30, 4:35 pm, Tim wrote:

Nuts with it.
i always wanted one of these!
http://www.rongeorge.com/albums/ww2armorref/DUKW_1.jpg
That's old WW2 junk.
We have a bunch of Viet Nam era Lark V vehicles clogging up our streets
every summer......http://www.murphysonthewater.com/harbourhopper/-Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
It MAY be old ww2 junk, but that "junk" in restored condition (as we;;
as the Lark V) is worth more than that overgrown semi-pickup Larry is
braging about.
Besides, the DUKW swims!
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Pffft!

http://www.terrawind.com/terrawind.htm

That's Harry's kind of boat - it has no transom. :)


You do know the engine in that new Toyota is a Yamaha design, right?

And if you put three eTecs on the transom of a fast boat, will it still
be fast because only two of them will actually run at one time?

:}

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:28:03 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:03:44 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
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On Dec 30, 4:35 pm, Tim wrote:

Nuts with it.
i always wanted one of these!
http://www.rongeorge.com/albums/ww2armorref/DUKW_1.jpg
That's old WW2 junk.
We have a bunch of Viet Nam era Lark V vehicles clogging up our streets
every summer......http://www.murphysonthewater.com/harbourhopper/-Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
It MAY be old ww2 junk, but that "junk" in restored condition (as we;;
as the Lark V) is worth more than that overgrown semi-pickup Larry is
braging about.
Besides, the DUKW swims!
-------------------------------------------------

Pffft!

http://www.terrawind.com/terrawind.htm

That's Harry's kind of boat - it has no transom. :)

You do know the engine in that new Toyota is a Yamaha design, right?

Didn't know that.

Then again, Yamaha did build an engine for Ford.

And if you put three eTecs on the transom of a fast boat, will it still
be fast because only two of them will actually run at one time?

As compared to Yamahas which wouldn't run at all?

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:28:03 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:03:44 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
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On Dec 30, 4:35 pm, Tim wrote:

Nuts with it.
i always wanted one of these!
http://www.rongeorge.com/albums/ww2armorref/DUKW_1.jpg
That's old WW2 junk.
We have a bunch of Viet Nam era Lark V vehicles clogging up our streets
every summer......http://www.murphysonthewater.com/harbourhopper/-Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
It MAY be old ww2 junk, but that "junk" in restored condition (as we;;
as the Lark V) is worth more than that overgrown semi-pickup Larry is
braging about.
Besides, the DUKW swims!
-------------------------------------------------

Pffft!

http://www.terrawind.com/terrawind.htm
That's Harry's kind of boat - it has no transom. :)
You do know the engine in that new Toyota is a Yamaha design, right?

Didn't know that.

Then again, Yamaha did build an engine for Ford.

And if you put three eTecs on the transom of a fast boat, will it still
be fast because only two of them will actually run at one time?

As compared to Yamahas which wouldn't run at all?



Yamahas don't have to run to stay ahead of eTecs, because in any races
of length, the eTecs will simply explode. :}

Are you getting a candy colored metal flake paint job on that new truck?



--
George W. Bush - the 43rd Best President Ever!

On Dec 30, 9:03*pm, "JimH" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

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On Dec 30, 4:35 pm, Tim wrote:





Nuts with it.

i always wanted one of these!

http://www.rongeorge.com/albums/ww2armorref/DUKW_1.jpg

That's old WW2 junk.
We have a bunch of Viet Nam era Lark V vehicles clogging up our streets
every summer......http://www.murphysonthewater.com/harbourhopper/-Hide
quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It MAY be old ww2 junk, but that "junk" in restored condition (as we;;
as the Lark V) is worth more than that overgrown semi-pickup Larry is
braging about.

Besides, the DUKW swims!
-------------------------------------------------

Pffft!

http://www.terrawind.com/terrawind.htm- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Pffft! (SBD)

I want something I can park in my garage!

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:43:58 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:28:03 -0500, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:03:44 -0500, "JimH" wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
...
On Dec 30, 4:35 pm, Tim wrote:

Nuts with it.
i always wanted one of these!
http://www.rongeorge.com/albums/ww2armorref/DUKW_1.jpg
That's old WW2 junk.
We have a bunch of Viet Nam era Lark V vehicles clogging up our streets
every summer......http://www.murphysonthewater.com/harbourhopper/-Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
It MAY be old ww2 junk, but that "junk" in restored condition (as we;;
as the Lark V) is worth more than that overgrown semi-pickup Larry is
braging about.
Besides, the DUKW swims!
-------------------------------------------------

Pffft!

http://www.terrawind.com/terrawind.htm
That's Harry's kind of boat - it has no transom. :)
You do know the engine in that new Toyota is a Yamaha design, right?

Didn't know that.

Then again, Yamaha did build an engine for Ford.

And if you put three eTecs on the transom of a fast boat, will it still
be fast because only two of them will actually run at one time?

As compared to Yamahas which wouldn't run at all?

Yamahas don't have to run to stay ahead of eTecs, because in any races
of length, the eTecs will simply explode. :}

http://www.boattest.com/Resources/vi...spx?NewsID=114

Notice where the Yamaha's came in?

After Evinrude.

Are you getting a candy colored metal flake paint job on that new truck?

Actually, it already has one - nice shiny metalflake gray with gold
and silver highlights.