On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 02:59:20 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

The initial report that I read indicated that the ship was taking on water
and the captain purposely grounded it so that it did not sink in the middle
of the ICW.

Yes, but that was after the initial damage which went unnoticed until
they started taking on water.

On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 06:10:40 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 02:59:20 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:

The initial report that I read indicated that the ship was taking on water
and the captain purposely grounded it so that it did not sink in the middle
of the ICW.

Yes, but that was after the initial damage which went unnoticed until
they started taking on water.

One of the more acceptable opinions about the Edmond Fitzgerald is
that the hatches were leaking and it wasn't noticed until the ship
started to list.

Seems to be a common theme in these types of accidents.

Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:49:02 -0500, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
Old news to some perhaps but probably not everyone.

A 210 ft coastal cruise ship, the Spirit of Nantucket, struck a
previously unknown submerged object south of the Pungo Ferry Bridge
and began taking on water. The captain ran the ship aground to
prevent sinking. Passengers have been taken off and the leakage
stabilized. A salvage plan is in progress.

The Atlantic ICW south of Great Bridge, VA is now closed to all
commercial traffic, and recreational boats drawing more than 6 ft
until further notice. For them, the only way south is around Cape
Hatteras and the Outer Banks.

http://content.hamptonroads.com/stor...6626&ran=68933



Did they run into the transmission you dropped?

I think I know where that one is. The real mystery is where this
obstruction came from. I guess it's possible that last week's storm
could have moved something around.

The winter storms in Lake Michigan and Lake Superior move some monster
boulders very long distances, but I would be surprised if last weeks
storm could have moved a large boulder in the ICW. You don't have
enough fetch to really generate really powerful waves in the ICW.

It will be interesting to see what they turn up. My guess is someone
unloaded a derelict boat.

On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 06:30:09 -0500, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:49:02 -0500, HK wrote:

Wayne.B wrote:
Old news to some perhaps but probably not everyone.

A 210 ft coastal cruise ship, the Spirit of Nantucket, struck a
previously unknown submerged object south of the Pungo Ferry Bridge
and began taking on water. The captain ran the ship aground to
prevent sinking. Passengers have been taken off and the leakage
stabilized. A salvage plan is in progress.

The Atlantic ICW south of Great Bridge, VA is now closed to all
commercial traffic, and recreational boats drawing more than 6 ft
until further notice. For them, the only way south is around Cape
Hatteras and the Outer Banks.

http://content.hamptonroads.com/stor...6626&ran=68933



Did they run into the transmission you dropped?

I think I know where that one is. The real mystery is where this
obstruction came from. I guess it's possible that last week's storm
could have moved something around.

The winter storms in Lake Michigan and Lake Superior move some monster
boulders very long distances, but I would be surprised if last weeks
storm could have moved a large boulder in the ICW. You don't have
enough fetch to really generate really powerful waves in the ICW.

It will be interesting to see what they turn up. My guess is someone
unloaded a derelict boat.

Three or four years ago, an oiler heading up to the Providence, RI
fuel depot in Narragansett Bay hit something right along the starbord
side of the navigation channel about 100 yards ESE to the T-wharf at
Prudence Island. A slightly below average low tide was at ebb.

Lo and behold, a wreck nobody knew was there. 130 foot long, partially
wooden hull and partial steel super structure.

Researchers can't seem to identify the ship other than to say that it
shows aspects of being a coal collier and is at least 80 years old -
possibly older.

So you never know. :)

Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Something big enough to put a hole in a steel ship?


Caught a news clip first of the week where a guy claimed that a hugh wave,
generated by Post Tropical Storm Noel, moved a 100 ton granite boulder
some distance at Peggys Cove.




That would be some wave...

I heard he was trying 'to wake' a small sailboat and ran too
close to the edge.

:0

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
Old news to some perhaps but probably not everyone.

A 210 ft coastal cruise ship, the Spirit of Nantucket,
struck a
previously unknown submerged object south of the Pungo
Ferry Bridge
and began taking on water. The captain ran the ship
aground to
prevent sinking. Passengers have been taken off and the
leakage
stabilized. A salvage plan is in progress.

The Atlantic ICW south of Great Bridge, VA is now closed
to all
commercial traffic, and recreational boats drawing more
than 6 ft
until further notice. For them, the only way south is
around Cape
Hatteras and the Outer Banks.


http://content.hamptonroads.com/stor...y=136626&ran=6
8933

"HK" wrote in message
news
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Something big enough to put a hole in a steel ship?


Caught a news clip first of the week where a guy claimed that a hugh
wave, generated by Post Tropical Storm Noel, moved a 100 ton granite
boulder
some distance at Peggys Cove.


That would be some wave...

I'll drive down before the weather turns for the worse and investigate.
It's always a beautiful place to visit..... unless you're one of the small
lake sailors here who are terrified by a 5 foot swell.

Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
news
Don White wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Something big enough to put a hole in a steel ship?

Caught a news clip first of the week where a guy claimed that a hugh
wave, generated by Post Tropical Storm Noel, moved a 100 ton granite
boulder
some distance at Peggys Cove.

That would be some wave...

I'll drive down before the weather turns for the worse and investigate.
It's always a beautiful place to visit..... unless you're one of the small
lake sailors here who are terrified by a 5 foot swell.



Bang your fist on that boulder and see if it is hollow!

On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:31:14 -0500, "Scotty" wrote:

I heard he was trying 'to wake' a small sailboat and ran too
close to the edge.



Do you really believe that people run around on the water deliberately
trying to wake sailboats?

http://tinyurl.com/6hp2x

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:31:14 -0500, "Scotty"
wrote:

I heard he was trying 'to wake' a small sailboat and ran
too
close to the edge.



Do you really believe that people run around on the water
deliberately
trying to wake sailboats?


Some do, it's a fact. Ask the GC.


SBV