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Eisboch October 29th 07 04:23 PM

Best Wax for boats and cars.
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...


I would assume that the sheeting action is related to the fact that
there isn't anything for the water to cling to.


And you would assume correctly.

Eisboch



HK October 29th 07 04:24 PM

Best Wax for boats and cars.
 
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:41:03 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

There is a school of thought that suggests that "beading" of water
on a painted surface will cause paint damage unless you wash and wax
very regularly. The beads of water act like miniature magnifying
glasses, focusing and intensifying the sun's energy, burning through
the wax and paint and permanently burning any dust or dirt into the
surface. The wax is sacrificial and does not last very long.

File this under learn something new everyday.

I just read Wayne's post about sheeting water on his racer and your
post on optics.

Here's my question - what makes the water bead? Is it that it clings
to the surface, or because it can't cling to the surface?



Hydrophobic interaction.


Harry,

There is no doubt about it, you are much smarter than I am. I am
curious why a really smart guy like yourself, living in New Haven, with
some of the best schools in the country within 150 miles, would have to
slum it and go to a 4th tier school such as University of Kansas?

You did know that the really good schools provide scholarships and
grants for the overachievers. My high school counselors tried to make
sure all the college bound students knew all the options they had.

Did I tell you my Dad was on full scholarship and graduated from Yale
(courtesy of the war dept.) and my son got a work study program at
Columbia. I try not to talk about myself, so i won't tell you where I
went to school.



You seem to be working extra hard to convince me you are some sort of
worthy human being. You're wasting your time. I concluded several years
ago you were a turd, and nothing you have done since has made me
question that conclusion.

I don't believe you knew your father, and if your son (or the boy you
think is your son) is on a work-study program, it probably is the
offered by the Georgia State Prison System. Or not. It doesn't matter to me.


HK October 29th 07 04:28 PM

Best Wax for boats and cars.
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...

I would assume that the sheeting action is related to the fact that
there isn't anything for the water to cling to.


And you would assume correctly.

Eisboch




So that's why water rolls right off the top of my head without forming
drops! And I thought it was because I stopped using Turtle Wax.


Eisboch October 29th 07 04:31 PM

Best Wax for boats and cars.
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:41:03 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

There is a school of thought that suggests that "beading" of water on a
painted surface will cause paint damage unless you wash and wax very
regularly. The beads of water act like miniature magnifying glasses,
focusing and intensifying the sun's energy, burning through the wax and
paint and permanently burning any dust or dirt into the surface. The
wax is sacrificial and does not last very long.


File this under learn something new everyday.

I just read Wayne's post about sheeting water on his racer and your
post on optics.

Here's my question - what makes the water bead? Is it that it clings
to the surface, or because it can't cling to the surface?



Hydrophobic interaction.


Yup. There is quite a science associated with this. We built high vacuum
processing systems that ionized gas (plasma) and bombarded the internal
walls of bottles -- plastic and glass -- with energetic ions. The process
super cleaned the surface and water would sheet, rather than bead.

Some well know beer companies use this technology.

Eisboch

Makes for very sanitary



HK October 29th 07 04:36 PM

Best Wax for boats and cars.
 
Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:41:03 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

There is a school of thought that suggests that "beading" of water on a
painted surface will cause paint damage unless you wash and wax very
regularly. The beads of water act like miniature magnifying glasses,
focusing and intensifying the sun's energy, burning through the wax and
paint and permanently burning any dust or dirt into the surface. The
wax is sacrificial and does not last very long.
File this under learn something new everyday.

I just read Wayne's post about sheeting water on his racer and your
post on optics.

Here's my question - what makes the water bead? Is it that it clings
to the surface, or because it can't cling to the surface?


Hydrophobic interaction.


Yup. There is quite a science associated with this. We built high vacuum
processing systems that ionized gas (plasma) and bombarded the internal
walls of bottles -- plastic and glass -- with energetic ions. The process
super cleaned the surface and water would sheet, rather than bead.

Some well know beer companies use this technology.

Eisboch

Makes for very sanitary




Hey! I tuk fizzzziks!


Eisboch October 29th 07 04:45 PM

Best Wax for boats and cars.
 

"HK" wrote in message
. ..

Eisboch wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
. ..
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:41:03 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

There is a school of thought that suggests that "beading" of water on
a painted surface will cause paint damage unless you wash and wax very
regularly. The beads of water act like miniature magnifying glasses,
focusing and intensifying the sun's energy, burning through the wax
and paint and permanently burning any dust or dirt into the surface.
The wax is sacrificial and does not last very long.
File this under learn something new everyday.

I just read Wayne's post about sheeting water on his racer and your
post on optics.

Here's my question - what makes the water bead? Is it that it clings
to the surface, or because it can't cling to the surface?


Hydrophobic interaction.


Yup. There is quite a science associated with this. We built high
vacuum processing systems that ionized gas (plasma) and bombarded the
internal walls of bottles -- plastic and glass -- with energetic ions.
The process super cleaned the surface and water would sheet, rather than
bead.

Some well know beer companies use this technology.

Eisboch

Makes for very sanitary



Hey! I tuk fizzzziks!


I always got a kick out of people who wear glasses and pay big bucks for a
"scratch resistant" coating on plastic lenses. The coating is actually
called a hydrophobic coating and does absolutely nothing to make the lens
surface "harder". All it does is adds a bit of lubricity to the surface so
dirt or dust will tend to slide off rather than scratch the plastic surface.

Wiping them with mineral oil will do the same thing.

Eisboch



Wayne.B October 29th 07 04:48 PM

Best Wax for boats and cars.
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:28:50 -0400, HK wrote:

So that's why water rolls right off the top of my head without forming
drops! And I thought it was because I stopped using Turtle Wax.


More likely because you lost your hair.

Eisboch October 29th 07 04:49 PM

Best Wax for boats and cars.
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:28:50 -0400, HK wrote:

So that's why water rolls right off the top of my head without forming
drops! And I thought it was because I stopped using Turtle Wax.


More likely because you lost your hair.



Harry needs to stop ionizing his head.

Eisboch



HK October 29th 07 04:50 PM

Best Wax for boats and cars.
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:28:50 -0400, HK wrote:

So that's why water rolls right off the top of my head without forming
drops! And I thought it was because I stopped using Turtle Wax.


More likely because you lost your hair.



I dunno. I can't see what is happening up there.

Chuck Gould October 29th 07 04:58 PM

Best cleaner for river slime
 
On Oct 28, 6:39?pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Oct 27, 10:44?pm, sherwindu wrote:
After pulling my boat from the Root River in Racine Wisconsin, I noticed that
there
was an ugly band of black gunk at the waterline, especially at the upstream side
of
the boat when it was in the slip. A power wash got the mud off, but this band
of
gunk stayed on. I had the same problem last year, and had to rub like hell with


all kinds of cleaners to get it off. Someone recommended using Tidy Bowl as a
cleaner, possibly because it contains Muratic Acid. I know that Muratic Acid is


used to clean and etch concrete, so I was wary to use it on my fiberglass hull.
Was I correct about this? Is there a better way to clean off this river junk?
I
have used Zud and other similar products, but they don't get everything off and
require a lot of elbow grease. Some of this gunk is on the bottom paint, as
well,
so I have to be careful not to dissolve that.


Sherwin


You might try this stuff:


http://lat43.com/marine.html


Absolutely non-abrasive, and cleans far better than any thing else I
have ever used.


Chuck, have you used this stuff on water line gunk?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


If it will take off spider poop, (and it does), water line scum should
be easy. No, I have not personally used in on waer line gunk.

There's a before and after photo on the web site showing what are
reported to be the results of spraying a dirty bottomw with water,
applying the soap, letting it sit a while, and then spraying again. I
haven't done that either, but based on what I've been able to observe
above the waterline I don't doubt that they got the results the photos
illustrate.



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