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Eisboch October 29th 07 06:07 PM

Best Wax for boats and cars.
 

"John H." wrote in message
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You know too much stuff.


I've become used to the glassy-eyed, bored gaze of my audience.

A regular walking encyclopedia of worthless information, according to Mrs.E.

Eisboch



Reginald P. Smithers III October 29th 07 06:11 PM

Best Wax for boats and cars.
 
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:15:30 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
I always got a kick out of people who wear glasses and pay big bucks for
a "scratch resistant" coating on plastic lenses. The coating is actually
called a hydrophobic coating and does absolutely nothing to make the lens
surface "harder". All it does is adds a bit of lubricity to the surface
so dirt or dust will tend to slide off rather than scratch the plastic
surface.

Wiping them with mineral oil will do the same thing.

Eisboch
That sounds like me.
Would that mineral oil affect the UV coatings?


No. Wipe it on gently and then off gently.

If you paid for a "scratch resistant" coating, you were probably also given
a small bottle of "refresher" or something called similarly. Guess what's
in the little bottle?

Eisboch


(As I raise my hand) ME ME ME , Eisboch call on me.


Is that the same stuff my mother made me drink when I was a kid?


He didn't call you on yet. ;)


Gene Kearns October 29th 07 06:34 PM

Best cleaner for river slime
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:30:30 -0400, Reginald P. Smithers III penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|Gene Kearns wrote:
| On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:03:54 -0400, Reginald P. Smithers III penned
| the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
|
| |Chuck Gould wrote:
| | On Oct 28, 6:39?pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
| | wrote:
| | Chuck Gould wrote:
| | On Oct 27, 10:44?pm, sherwindu wrote:
| | After pulling my boat from the Root River in Racine Wisconsin, I noticed that
| | there
| | was an ugly band of black gunk at the waterline, especially at the upstream side
| | of
| | the boat when it was in the slip. A power wash got the mud off, but this band
| | of
| | gunk stayed on. I had the same problem last year, and had to rub like hell with
| | all kinds of cleaners to get it off. Someone recommended using Tidy Bowl as a
| | cleaner, possibly because it contains Muratic Acid. I know that Muratic Acid is
| | used to clean and etch concrete, so I was wary to use it on my fiberglass hull.
| | Was I correct about this? Is there a better way to clean off this river junk?
| | I
| | have used Zud and other similar products, but they don't get everything off and
| | require a lot of elbow grease. Some of this gunk is on the bottom paint, as
| | well,
| | so I have to be careful not to dissolve that.
| | Sherwin
| | You might try this stuff:
| | http://lat43.com/marine.html
| | Absolutely non-abrasive, and cleans far better than any thing else I
| | have ever used.
| | Chuck, have you used this stuff on water line gunk?- Hide quoted text -
| |
| | - Show quoted text -
| |
| | If it will take off spider poop, (and it does), water line scum should
| | be easy. No, I have not personally used in on waer line gunk.
| |
| | There's a before and after photo on the web site showing what are
| | reported to be the results of spraying a dirty bottomw with water,
| | applying the soap, letting it sit a while, and then spraying again. I
| | haven't done that either, but based on what I've been able to observe
| | above the waterline I don't doubt that they got the results the photos
| | illustrate.
| |
| |
| |
| |Our spider poop must not be as strong as the NW spider poop, I can just
| |hose that off of my boat, even the parts I don't wax.
|
| Boy, I can't..... you can hardly SCRUB that crap off..... even from
| things like glazed tile....
|
|
|Well just another reason why you need to try Zaino Bros. wash. ;)

Do you order online or can you find it locally?

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John H. October 29th 07 06:38 PM

Best cleaner for river slime
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:28:56 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:18:05 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
BAR wrote:
sherwindu wrote:
My experience with waxes are the easier they apply, the less
protection. I only use
waxes with Carbona. It isn't easy to apply, but it lasts a whole
season.

Is that Carnuba? If it is then that put that in some cheap chocolates
too.

Does it also protect your digestive tract?

Do you remember that long thread we had a number of years ago, about
what was the best wax for your car. As with so many NG threads it
went on for months. I wish I could remember who made the post about
Zaino and "sold" me on trying it. I owe them a beer and dinner.




I'm not sure, but I think I was the first one or maybe the second who
mentioned the virtues of Zaino.


Well if you are I owe you a beer and dinner.


I'd pay to be there for that.


If you'll buy my dinner, I'll come too!

Wayne.B October 29th 07 06:41 PM

Best Wax for boats and cars.
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:45:18 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Wiping them with mineral oil will do the same thing.


WD40? Never thought of that.

Reginald P. Smithers III October 29th 07 06:46 PM

Best cleaner for river slime
 
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:30:30 -0400, Reginald P. Smithers III penned
the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|Gene Kearns wrote:
| On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:03:54 -0400, Reginald P. Smithers III penned
| the following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
|
| |Chuck Gould wrote:
| | On Oct 28, 6:39?pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
| | wrote:
| | Chuck Gould wrote:
| | On Oct 27, 10:44?pm, sherwindu wrote:
| | After pulling my boat from the Root River in Racine Wisconsin, I noticed that
| | there
| | was an ugly band of black gunk at the waterline, especially at the upstream side
| | of
| | the boat when it was in the slip. A power wash got the mud off, but this band
| | of
| | gunk stayed on. I had the same problem last year, and had to rub like hell with
| | all kinds of cleaners to get it off. Someone recommended using Tidy Bowl as a
| | cleaner, possibly because it contains Muratic Acid. I know that Muratic Acid is
| | used to clean and etch concrete, so I was wary to use it on my fiberglass hull.
| | Was I correct about this? Is there a better way to clean off this river junk?
| | I
| | have used Zud and other similar products, but they don't get everything off and
| | require a lot of elbow grease. Some of this gunk is on the bottom paint, as
| | well,
| | so I have to be careful not to dissolve that.
| | Sherwin
| | You might try this stuff:
| | http://lat43.com/marine.html
| | Absolutely non-abrasive, and cleans far better than any thing else I
| | have ever used.
| | Chuck, have you used this stuff on water line gunk?- Hide quoted text -
| |
| | - Show quoted text -
| |
| | If it will take off spider poop, (and it does), water line scum should
| | be easy. No, I have not personally used in on waer line gunk.
| |
| | There's a before and after photo on the web site showing what are
| | reported to be the results of spraying a dirty bottomw with water,
| | applying the soap, letting it sit a while, and then spraying again. I
| | haven't done that either, but based on what I've been able to observe
| | above the waterline I don't doubt that they got the results the photos
| | illustrate.
| |
| |
| |
| |Our spider poop must not be as strong as the NW spider poop, I can just
| |hose that off of my boat, even the parts I don't wax.
|
| Boy, I can't..... you can hardly SCRUB that crap off..... even from
| things like glazed tile....
|
|
|Well just another reason why you need to try Zaino Bros. wash. ;)

Do you order online or can you find it locally?


I order online. Before he started to accept credit cards online, I had
to send print out an order form and mail it to him with a check. At the
time, I called him and he told me he did not have a local distributor.
Now he is state of the art, and actually accepts credit cards.

http://www.zainostore.com/


Wayne.B October 29th 07 06:48 PM

Best Wax for boats and cars.
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:50:23 -0400, HK wrote:

More likely because you lost your hair.



I dunno. I can't see what is happening up there.


Just as well if you're like most 60 year old guys.

John H. October 29th 07 06:49 PM

Best Wax for boats and cars.
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:31:47 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:41:03 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

There is a school of thought that suggests that "beading" of water on a
painted surface will cause paint damage unless you wash and wax very
regularly. The beads of water act like miniature magnifying glasses,
focusing and intensifying the sun's energy, burning through the wax and
paint and permanently burning any dust or dirt into the surface. The
wax is sacrificial and does not last very long.

File this under learn something new everyday.

I just read Wayne's post about sheeting water on his racer and your
post on optics.

Here's my question - what makes the water bead? Is it that it clings
to the surface, or because it can't cling to the surface?



Hydrophobic interaction.


Yup. There is quite a science associated with this. We built high vacuum
processing systems that ionized gas (plasma) and bombarded the internal
walls of bottles -- plastic and glass -- with energetic ions. The process
super cleaned the surface and water would sheet, rather than bead.

Some well know beer companies use this technology.

Eisboch

Makes for very sanitary


So does Rain-X. Or, on motorcycle windscreens, Lemon Pledge in the spray
bottle.

John H. October 29th 07 06:51 PM

Best Wax for boats and cars.
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:27:20 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
m...

I always got a kick out of people who wear glasses and pay big bucks for a
"scratch resistant" coating on plastic lenses. The coating is actually
called a hydrophobic coating and does absolutely nothing to make the lens
surface "harder". All it does is adds a bit of lubricity to the surface
so dirt or dust will tend to slide off rather than scratch the plastic
surface.

Wiping them with mineral oil will do the same thing.

Eisboch


Another thing that always cracked me up ....

Many people pay 50 bucks or more extra for an "anti-reflective" coating.
There's nothing wrong with that .... the anti-reflective thin film coating,
if properly done, works just fine.

What is goofy about it though is that it isn't a true, flat antireflective
coating. The thin film design includes a slightly reflective "bump" in the
green light spectrum, and is called "neutral green" in the ophthalmic
eyeglass coating industry. It's only purpose is to assure the customer
that indeed, his/her glasses got the special, 50 dollar treatment. A good
anti-reflection coating would not have the green tint.

I have a 6-inch diameter flat glass that was masked in all but the center,
3-inch diameter section. A very good anti-reflection coating was applied to
the unmasked section. If you look at it, it appears to be an 6-inch glass
plate with a 3-inch hole in the center.

Eisboch


You know too much stuff.

What you said wouldn't help you clean a croaker any faster than I.

John H. October 29th 07 06:52 PM

Best Wax for boats and cars.
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:15:30 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

Eisboch wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
I always got a kick out of people who wear glasses and pay big bucks for
a "scratch resistant" coating on plastic lenses. The coating is actually
called a hydrophobic coating and does absolutely nothing to make the lens
surface "harder". All it does is adds a bit of lubricity to the surface
so dirt or dust will tend to slide off rather than scratch the plastic
surface.

Wiping them with mineral oil will do the same thing.

Eisboch

That sounds like me.
Would that mineral oil affect the UV coatings?



No. Wipe it on gently and then off gently.

If you paid for a "scratch resistant" coating, you were probably also given
a small bottle of "refresher" or something called similarly. Guess what's
in the little bottle?

Eisboch



(As I raise my hand) ME ME ME , Eisboch call on me.


Is that the same stuff my mother made me drink when I was a kid?


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