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"HK" wrote in message
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I don't believe I've spent two seconds of my life worrying about the size
of the water beads on my cars.

Sometimes the beads are larger than they are at other times.

I don't either on my daily driver or the boat. I am careful though on the
GTO and the Porsche, making sure they are dry after washing.

Eisboch

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Eisboch wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message
. ..
HK wrote:


"The beads were smaller..."

Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.


Harry,
I am don't know the actual physics behind the process of water beading, it
has some thing to do with surface tension of the water, and how the car
finish holds onto the water molecules determining the size of the water
droplets. The less surface tension on the car finish, the less it will
holds onto the water molecules and thus, the larger the water droplets
will be before their molecules pull apart. If the car finish is pitted
the surface tension of the car finish will be so strong it will not allow
the water to bead at all or the beads will be smaller.



Those that are familiar with cleaning optics or glass know that an
indication that the surface is truly clean is that the water sheets, rather
than beads.

Eisboch


Eisboch,
As I said, I am my knowledge of physics is poor at best. I am curios
why a car's finish that is as smooth as glass beads and a car that has
not been washed or waxed in years the water always sheets.

I am not familiar with any wax or polish that does not bead while just
applied and starts to sheet as the surfaced is pitted. Is there one you
find to be better than others?

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Eisboch wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
...

I don't believe I've spent two seconds of my life worrying about the size
of the water beads on my cars.

Sometimes the beads are larger than they are at other times.

I don't either on my daily driver or the boat. I am careful though on the
GTO and the Porsche, making sure they are dry after washing.

Eisboch




I also make sure my cars are dry after I wash them.

Funny thing...I have a cover for my new Parker. I wash out the boat
after using it and when it dries off, I put the cover on. Guy at the
boatyard says to me, why are you covering your boat? Gave me the
opportunity to say, "To keep the water off it."

I guess I could have said, "To keep the dirt and UV off it," but...nah.

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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in
message . ..
HK wrote:


"The beads were smaller..."

Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.


Harry,
I am don't know the actual physics behind the process of water
beading, it has some thing to do with surface tension of the water,
and how the car finish holds onto the water molecules determining the
size of the water droplets. The less surface tension on the car
finish, the less it will holds onto the water molecules and thus, the
larger the water droplets will be before their molecules pull apart.
If the car finish is pitted the surface tension of the car finish
will be so strong it will not allow the water to bead at all or the
beads will be smaller.



Those that are familiar with cleaning optics or glass know that an
indication that the surface is truly clean is that the water sheets,
rather than beads.

Eisboch
edit:

Eisboch,
As I said, my knowledge of physics is poor at best. I am curious
why a car's finish that is as smooth as glass has water beads and a
car that has
not been washed or waxed in years the water always sheets.

I am not familiar with any wax or polish that does not bead just after
it is
applied and starts to sheet as the surfaced is pitted.

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:11:22 -0400, HK wrote:

I'm not sure, but I think I was the first one or maybe the second who
mentioned the virtues of Zaino.

That's my recollection also. I'd never heard of it before. Does it
contain silicone?

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:11:22 -0400, HK wrote:

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
BAR wrote:
sherwindu wrote:
My experience with waxes are the easier they apply, the less
protection. I only use
waxes with Carbona. It isn't easy to apply, but it lasts a whole
season.

Is that Carnuba? If it is then that put that in some cheap chocolates
too.

Does it also protect your digestive tract?

Do you remember that long thread we had a number of years ago, about
what was the best wax for your car. As with so many NG threads it went
on for months. I wish I could remember who made the post about Zaino
and "sold" me on trying it. I owe them a beer and dinner.




I'm not sure, but I think I was the first one or maybe the second who
mentioned the virtues of Zaino.

Perhaps Reggie followed your advice. That was much nicer than blasting you
for offering it.

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:31:02 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

That is exactly how Off and On works.

Acid is acid.

Sno Bowl is the same stuff only cheaper.

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:31:17 -0400, HK wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:35:56 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:17:12 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

sherwindu wrote:
My experience with waxes are the easier they apply, the less protection. I only use
waxes with Carbona. It isn't easy to apply, but it lasts a whole season.

Sherwin

Sherwin,
That was my opinion for 25 years, and is the reason I always used
Carnauba Wax also and didn't even bother to try the new finishes
available at the auto store. I tried Zaino after someone recommended it
in rec.boats and I did a Google Search and found it was considered the
best finish and protectant by all of the car clubs and auto enthusiast.
The first year I tried Zaino Bros, (I think it was 4 yrs ago). I did
an A/B experiment with my wife's car and my car. I did a complete
detail on both cars, including using detail clay and the complete
Meguiar's Car Care 3 step Carnauba Wax Program and the Zaino Bros. 3
step Polish. After I finished both cars were as slick as glass. While
the Zaino Bros looked better initially, what I was really interested is
how well it would last after 6 months, since I would always wax my car
in the spring and fall. In the fall, the Zaino still had large beads of
water on the car, and when I clayed the car, their was no pollution
residual common off on the clay. The Mequiars car was still water
beading, but the beads were smaller, and it the finish definitely had
rough feel. When I clayed the car, I could see where the air pollution
had pitted the finish, and I was getting the pollution residual on the
clay. I also noticed that the Zaino car actually looked better the 2nd
time i applied the finish.

At this point, I gave alway the rest of the Meguiars to a neighbor and
in the Spring time used Zaino on my boat and cars.

I doubt you will try the Zaino, but I went through this explanation
because I really believe in the product and hope that some other people
will try it. It is truly amazing. What I thought was amusing is the
owner Sal Zaino is the guy who answers the phone when you call up with a
question. He has that gruff New York City voice. I think he is semi
retired, but is the "answer line" for people who have technical
questions about the product. It really does apply differently than most
waxes and polishes. Since the Caranuba wax obviously isn't working on
your water line gunk, why don't you try it after you clean off it with
"Off and On"? If you do, you will need to let us know next fall if it
did any good.

Why do I feel like I am doing a late night infomercial?

Because it was still dark outside?
Nah, it is because it sounded just like their spiel. ;) The only other
product I have tried that exceeded my expecations as well as Zaino is
OxyClean. When that was new, I told everyone how great it was to get
rid of mildew on the boat, to clean the carpet and used at home in the
laundry. I wanted to make sure it stayed on the market.

It works well on dog poop stains on the carpet also



"The beads were smaller..."

Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.


Dog poop beads...??

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Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:31:02 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

That is exactly how Off and On works.

Acid is acid.

Sno Bowl is the same stuff only cheaper.

Wayne,

That is what I like about rec.boats, unlike some in here, I don't know
it all, and am always learning something. Thanks.

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:44:39 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Those that are familiar with cleaning optics or glass know that an
indication that the surface is truly clean is that the water sheets, rather
than beads.

That was my experience wet sanding the bottom of my old racing
sailboat. When the water started to hang on the bottom in smooth
sheets, the surface was just about right.