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Reginald P. Smithers III October 29th 07 02:46 PM

Best cleaner for river slime
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:11:22 -0400, HK wrote:

I'm not sure, but I think I was the first one or maybe the second who
mentioned the virtues of Zaino.


That's my recollection also. I'd never heard of it before. Does it
contain silicone?


Wayne,
They say it is the most sophisticated system of synthetic polymeric
system available today. Great marketing, but doesn't really say
anything, I think most of today's polishes are synthetic polymers.

I sent them a request for the MSDS to see what it really is.

Harry,
Since I owe you dinner and a beer, and I won't be coming up to MD soon,
send me your address so I can send your money.


Reginald P. Smithers III October 29th 07 02:49 PM

Best Wax for boats and cars.
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:44:39 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Those that are familiar with cleaning optics or glass know that an
indication that the surface is truly clean is that the water sheets, rather
than beads.


That was my experience wet sanding the bottom of my old racing
sailboat. When the water started to hang on the bottom in smooth
sheets, the surface was just about right.


I sure am glad I said I don't know physics, I do know Zaino is one hell
of polish.

Short Wave Sportfishing October 29th 07 03:26 PM

Best Wax for boats and cars.
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:41:03 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

There is a school of thought that suggests that "beading" of water on a
painted surface will cause paint damage unless you wash and wax very
regularly. The beads of water act like miniature magnifying glasses,
focusing and intensifying the sun's energy, burning through the wax and
paint and permanently burning any dust or dirt into the surface. The wax is
sacrificial and does not last very long.


File this under learn something new everyday.

I just read Wayne's post about sheeting water on his racer and your
post on optics.

Here's my question - what makes the water bead? Is it that it clings
to the surface, or because it can't cling to the surface?

I would assume that the sheeting action is related to the fact that
there isn't anything for the water to cling to.

Short Wave Sportfishing October 29th 07 03:28 PM

Best cleaner for river slime
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:18:05 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
BAR wrote:
sherwindu wrote:
My experience with waxes are the easier they apply, the less
protection. I only use
waxes with Carbona. It isn't easy to apply, but it lasts a whole
season.

Is that Carnuba? If it is then that put that in some cheap chocolates
too.

Does it also protect your digestive tract?

Do you remember that long thread we had a number of years ago, about
what was the best wax for your car. As with so many NG threads it
went on for months. I wish I could remember who made the post about
Zaino and "sold" me on trying it. I owe them a beer and dinner.




I'm not sure, but I think I was the first one or maybe the second who
mentioned the virtues of Zaino.


Well if you are I owe you a beer and dinner.


I'd pay to be there for that.

Short Wave Sportfishing October 29th 07 03:30 PM

Best cleaner for river slime
 
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:21:59 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:31:02 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

That is exactly how Off and On works.


Acid is acid.

Sno Bowl is the same stuff only cheaper.


I'm going to try that stuff on that Chris Craft hull I have that is
stained.

Cheap enough to experiment with.

HK October 29th 07 03:33 PM

Best cleaner for river slime
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:18:05 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
BAR wrote:
sherwindu wrote:
My experience with waxes are the easier they apply, the less
protection. I only use
waxes with Carbona. It isn't easy to apply, but it lasts a whole
season.
Is that Carnuba? If it is then that put that in some cheap chocolates
too.
Does it also protect your digestive tract?

Do you remember that long thread we had a number of years ago, about
what was the best wax for your car. As with so many NG threads it
went on for months. I wish I could remember who made the post about
Zaino and "sold" me on trying it. I owe them a beer and dinner.



I'm not sure, but I think I was the first one or maybe the second who
mentioned the virtues of Zaino.

Well if you are I owe you a beer and dinner.


I'd pay to be there for that.



You can go in my place.

Are you still in Deliverance-ville?

HK October 29th 07 03:34 PM

Best Wax for boats and cars.
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:41:03 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

There is a school of thought that suggests that "beading" of water on a
painted surface will cause paint damage unless you wash and wax very
regularly. The beads of water act like miniature magnifying glasses,
focusing and intensifying the sun's energy, burning through the wax and
paint and permanently burning any dust or dirt into the surface. The wax is
sacrificial and does not last very long.


File this under learn something new everyday.

I just read Wayne's post about sheeting water on his racer and your
post on optics.

Here's my question - what makes the water bead? Is it that it clings
to the surface, or because it can't cling to the surface?



Hydrophobic interaction.

Reginald P. Smithers III October 29th 07 03:38 PM

Best cleaner for river slime
 
HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:18:05 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
BAR wrote:
sherwindu wrote:
My experience with waxes are the easier they apply, the less
protection. I only use
waxes with Carbona. It isn't easy to apply, but it lasts a whole
season.
Is that Carnuba? If it is then that put that in some cheap
chocolates too.
Does it also protect your digestive tract?

Do you remember that long thread we had a number of years ago,
about what was the best wax for your car. As with so many NG
threads it went on for months. I wish I could remember who made
the post about Zaino and "sold" me on trying it. I owe them a beer
and dinner.



I'm not sure, but I think I was the first one or maybe the second
who mentioned the virtues of Zaino.
Well if you are I owe you a beer and dinner.


I'd pay to be there for that.



You can go in my place.

Are you still in Deliverance-ville?


I was really looking forward to finally meeting you.

Reginald P. Smithers III October 29th 07 03:44 PM

Best Wax for boats and cars.
 
HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:41:03 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

There is a school of thought that suggests that "beading" of water
on a painted surface will cause paint damage unless you wash and wax
very regularly. The beads of water act like miniature magnifying
glasses, focusing and intensifying the sun's energy, burning through
the wax and paint and permanently burning any dust or dirt into the
surface. The wax is sacrificial and does not last very long.


File this under learn something new everyday.

I just read Wayne's post about sheeting water on his racer and your
post on optics.

Here's my question - what makes the water bead? Is it that it clings
to the surface, or because it can't cling to the surface?



Hydrophobic interaction.


Harry,

There is no doubt about it, you are much smarter than I am. I am
curious why a really smart guy like yourself, living in New Haven, with
some of the best schools in the country within 150 miles, would have to
slum it and go to a 4th tier school such as University of Kansas?

You did know that the really good schools provide scholarships and
grants for the overachievers. My high school counselors tried to make
sure all the college bound students knew all the options they had.

Did I tell you my Dad was on full scholarship and graduated from Yale
(courtesy of the war dept.) and my son got a work study program at
Columbia. I try not to talk about myself, so i won't tell you where I
went to school.

Reginald P. Smithers III October 29th 07 03:45 PM

Best cleaner for river slime
 
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:18:05 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote:

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
BAR wrote:
sherwindu wrote:
My experience with waxes are the easier they apply, the less
protection. I only use
waxes with Carbona. It isn't easy to apply, but it lasts a whole
season.
Is that Carnuba? If it is then that put that in some cheap chocolates
too.
Does it also protect your digestive tract?

Do you remember that long thread we had a number of years ago, about
what was the best wax for your car. As with so many NG threads it
went on for months. I wish I could remember who made the post about
Zaino and "sold" me on trying it. I owe them a beer and dinner.



I'm not sure, but I think I was the first one or maybe the second who
mentioned the virtues of Zaino.

Well if you are I owe you a beer and dinner.


I'd pay to be there for that.


I actually would enjoy meeting Harry, I think it would be fun.



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