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Best cleaner for river slime
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:29:22 -0400, HK wrote: thunder wrote: On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 07:35:47 -0500, John H. wrote: I defer to your expertise. But why go with a cheap AMD? AMD is no longer the "cheap" chip, and hasn't been for several years. Using benchmarks, AMD has given Intel a run for the money. It seems, lately, the speed lead has been switching back and forth, with every new generation of chip. http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html The cheap AMD chips are cheap indeed, but there's nothing wrong with them, and the high-end AMD chips are as thunder sez. You are undoubtedly correct. But, when you were telling us about the computer you were building, didn't you say you were using an Intell chip? Yup. But unless you are a high-end gamer or use certain processor-optimized apps (of which there are almost none), you're not going to notice any speed difference between a high-end Intel and a high-end AMD CPU. The only computer game I have installed on this desktop is MS Golf. |
Best cleaner for river slime
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:31:57 -0800, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message ... HK wrote: John H. wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:25:55 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:50:45 -0000, wrote: On Oct 29, 5:16 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 06:16:05 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: I have always use a product called "On and Off Hull and Bottom Cleaner". I think it has muriatic acid, but really am not sure. I have purchased it at West Marine and my marina's store, so I think it is readily available at all Marine Supply Stores. "On and Off" works extremely well. It should, the main ingredient is hydrochloric acid. It does not seem to harm fiberglass but it will damage some kinds of paint and take wax off the hull. I wear rubber gloves and glasses when I use it, wet everything down in advance, and rinse well afterward. The best way to avoid slime build up is a good coat of wax. Zud and Soft Scrub are two of the worst things you can use on a fiberglass boat, try everything else first. Best acid cleaners are the ones for toilets. Home Depot may carry them, but janitorial supply stores do. Is a gel type version of muriatic acid.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Where'd you get your degree in Chemical Engineering? OR are you now resorting to cleaning public toilets to get a little cash as opposed to being a handyman? He was simply providing some information. Does that call for the kind of **** you just delivered? If you disagree and have better information, please provide it. http://www.endeavorcomics.com/largent/ranger/rang.wav My OS is XP and I don't think it'll run a WAV. Just tell me about it. A classic response. It real was a good one. Was it William Tell Overture. And do you know why it was used as the Lone Ranger theme? . . . . Was out of copyright and was free. I didn't listen, so don't know what it was. But, the story of William Tell and the overture together make a good way to show children how music can be used to enhance a story. It, Peter and the Wolf, and the Nutcracker Suite were used by my mom to get me started, and I was able to get my kids hooked the same way. |
Best cleaner for river slime
On Oct 29, 6:32 pm, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:50:45 -0000, wrote: On Oct 29, 5:16 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 06:16:05 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: I have always use a product called "On and Off Hull and Bottom Cleaner". I think it has muriatic acid, but really am not sure. I have purchased it at West Marine and my marina's store, so I think it is readily available at all Marine Supply Stores. "On and Off" works extremely well. It should, the main ingredient is hydrochloric acid. It does not seem to harm fiberglass but it will damage some kinds of paint and take wax off the hull. I wear rubber gloves and glasses when I use it, wet everything down in advance, and rinse well afterward. The best way to avoid slime build up is a good coat of wax. Zud and Soft Scrub are two of the worst things you can use on a fiberglass boat, try everything else first. Best acid cleaners are the ones for toilets. Home Depot may carry them, but janitorial supply stores do. Is a gel type version of muriatic acid.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Where'd you get your degree in Chemical Engineering? OR are you now resorting to cleaning public toilets to get a little cash as opposed to being a handyman? He was simply providing some information. Does that call for the kind of **** you just delivered? If you disagree and have better information, please provide it.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No worse that the **** delivered to me, John. |
Best cleaner for river slime
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:29:22 -0400, HK wrote: thunder wrote: On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 07:35:47 -0500, John H. wrote: I defer to your expertise. But why go with a cheap AMD? AMD is no longer the "cheap" chip, and hasn't been for several years. Using benchmarks, AMD has given Intel a run for the money. It seems, lately, the speed lead has been switching back and forth, with every new generation of chip. http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html The cheap AMD chips are cheap indeed, but there's nothing wrong with them, and the high-end AMD chips are as thunder sez. You are undoubtedly correct. But, when you were telling us about the computer you were building, didn't you say you were using an Intell chip? I am cheap and NEVER buy the state of the art chip. I normally buy one or two one step below the state of the art. You pay a hefty premium for a small increase in performance. |
Best cleaner for river slime
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 07:42:06 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote: John H. wrote: ;-) I defer to your expertise. But why go with a cheap AMD? When I returned my Dell with an Intel chip, I purchased a AMD chip, because all of the speed test run on the software I used showed AMD was outperforming the equivalent Intel chip. I could see a substantial increase in speed between the two computers, but i am not sure how much of that was the CPU and how much was the computer set up and preinstalled trialware, freeware, spyware and bloatware installed on the machines. Gateway puts on substantially less than Dell. I think the high end Gateways are using the Intel processor now. It seems like the race between Intel and AMD is always changing leaders. I agree with your comments about Dell. It takes a while to get rid of junk Dell puts on their machines. I don't think I'll buy from Dell again. The next one will be home built or built at the shop where I'd buy the parts. I'll probably let them build it just so I'll have someone to complain to if there's a problem. I added a gig of ram a few months ago and noticed some improvement in speed with this Dell, so I'm pretty satisfied with it now. I bought a 160gig Seagate external hard drive, so I've plenty of room now. |
Best cleaner for river slime
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 07:52:52 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III"
wrote: John H. wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:31:57 -0800, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote in message . .. HK wrote: John H. wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:25:55 -0400, " JimH" ask wrote: "John H." wrote in message ... On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:50:45 -0000, wrote: On Oct 29, 5:16 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 06:16:05 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" wrote: I have always use a product called "On and Off Hull and Bottom Cleaner". I think it has muriatic acid, but really am not sure. I have purchased it at West Marine and my marina's store, so I think it is readily available at all Marine Supply Stores. "On and Off" works extremely well. It should, the main ingredient is hydrochloric acid. It does not seem to harm fiberglass but it will damage some kinds of paint and take wax off the hull. I wear rubber gloves and glasses when I use it, wet everything down in advance, and rinse well afterward. The best way to avoid slime build up is a good coat of wax. Zud and Soft Scrub are two of the worst things you can use on a fiberglass boat, try everything else first. Best acid cleaners are the ones for toilets. Home Depot may carry them, but janitorial supply stores do. Is a gel type version of muriatic acid.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Where'd you get your degree in Chemical Engineering? OR are you now resorting to cleaning public toilets to get a little cash as opposed to being a handyman? He was simply providing some information. Does that call for the kind of **** you just delivered? If you disagree and have better information, please provide it. http://www.endeavorcomics.com/largent/ranger/rang.wav My OS is XP and I don't think it'll run a WAV. Just tell me about it. A classic response. It real was a good one. Was it William Tell Overture. And do you know why it was used as the Lone Ranger theme? . . . . Was out of copyright and was free. I didn't listen, so don't know what it was. But, the story of William Tell and the overture together make a good way to show children how music can be used to enhance a story. It, Peter and the Wolf, and the Nutcracker Suite were used by my mom to get me started, and I was able to get my kids hooked the same way. Hey JohnH, did you know windows will play wav files. ;) Really? Wow! XP just seems to do everything! |
Best cleaner for river slime
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:40:07 -0400, HK wrote: John H. wrote: On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:29:22 -0400, HK wrote: thunder wrote: On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 07:35:47 -0500, John H. wrote: I defer to your expertise. But why go with a cheap AMD? AMD is no longer the "cheap" chip, and hasn't been for several years. Using benchmarks, AMD has given Intel a run for the money. It seems, lately, the speed lead has been switching back and forth, with every new generation of chip. http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html The cheap AMD chips are cheap indeed, but there's nothing wrong with them, and the high-end AMD chips are as thunder sez. You are undoubtedly correct. But, when you were telling us about the computer you were building, didn't you say you were using an Intell chip? Yup. But unless you are a high-end gamer or use certain processor-optimized apps (of which there are almost none), you're not going to notice any speed difference between a high-end Intel and a high-end AMD CPU. The only computer game I have installed on this desktop is MS Golf. Well! That explains both. Better greens fees with MS Golf. I shoot in the low 60's. |
Best cleaner for river slime
HK wrote:
John H. wrote: On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:40:07 -0400, HK wrote: John H. wrote: On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:29:22 -0400, HK wrote: thunder wrote: On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 07:35:47 -0500, John H. wrote: I defer to your expertise. But why go with a cheap AMD? AMD is no longer the "cheap" chip, and hasn't been for several years. Using benchmarks, AMD has given Intel a run for the money. It seems, lately, the speed lead has been switching back and forth, with every new generation of chip. http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html The cheap AMD chips are cheap indeed, but there's nothing wrong with them, and the high-end AMD chips are as thunder sez. You are undoubtedly correct. But, when you were telling us about the computer you were building, didn't you say you were using an Intell chip? Yup. But unless you are a high-end gamer or use certain processor-optimized apps (of which there are almost none), you're not going to notice any speed difference between a high-end Intel and a high-end AMD CPU. The only computer game I have installed on this desktop is MS Golf. Well! That explains both. Better greens fees with MS Golf. I shoot in the low 60's. yes, but what do you tip the caddie? |
Best cleaner for river slime
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote: John H. wrote: On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:40:07 -0400, HK wrote: John H. wrote: On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:29:22 -0400, HK wrote: thunder wrote: On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 07:35:47 -0500, John H. wrote: I defer to your expertise. But why go with a cheap AMD? AMD is no longer the "cheap" chip, and hasn't been for several years. Using benchmarks, AMD has given Intel a run for the money. It seems, lately, the speed lead has been switching back and forth, with every new generation of chip. http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html The cheap AMD chips are cheap indeed, but there's nothing wrong with them, and the high-end AMD chips are as thunder sez. You are undoubtedly correct. But, when you were telling us about the computer you were building, didn't you say you were using an Intell chip? Yup. But unless you are a high-end gamer or use certain processor-optimized apps (of which there are almost none), you're not going to notice any speed difference between a high-end Intel and a high-end AMD CPU. The only computer game I have installed on this desktop is MS Golf. Well! That explains both. Better greens fees with MS Golf. I shoot in the low 60's. yes, but what do you tip the caddie? The usual. |
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