On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 21:52:28 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 01:19:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Yamaha is claiming .9 mpg cruise (4500 rpm) on it's V-8 350 WOT.

Hmmmm....52 GPH?

Something there does not compute unless we are talking twins. That
engine solo should burn about 35 gph at WOT, something like 20 to 25
at 4500 rpm. 52 gph would be entirely plausible for twins at fast
cruise.

I phrased that wrong - my fault. My only excuse is it was late and my
eyes were crossing.

I was reading a report on it and I was looking at the figures - didn't
account for twins.

However, according to Yamaha, 5900 is WOT - at .9 gph that translates
to - mumble mumble - 34 GPH?

So at 4500, according to Yamaha, 18 GPH?

I ain't buying it.

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:52:14 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 01:19:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

Yamaha is claiming .9 mpg cruise (4500 rpm) on it's V-8 350 WOT.

Hmmmm....52 GPH?

Something there does not compute unless we are talking twins. That
engine solo should burn about 35 gph at WOT, something like 20 to 25
at 4500 rpm. 52 gph would be entirely plausible for twins at fast
cruise.

4500 may be WOT on that big of an engine.

Yamaha is claiming 6000 is WOT.

I'd have to see it to believe it.

wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:04:53 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Yamaha is claiming .9 mpg cruise (4500 rpm) on it's V-8 350 WOT.

Hmmmm....52 GPH?

EEEWWWWWWW!!!!!!

You're doing something wrong:

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/outboard...px?ls=outboard


I came up with this (52 GPH)

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/p...n-tri-f350.pdf




Yeah, for three of them.

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 00:03:39 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:17:34 -0400, wrote:

I came up with this (52 GPH)

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/p...n-tri-f350.pdf


Triples! That would definitely do it.

Considering it is 11,000+ lbs as tested, 36 ft long, doing 50+, not
too bad actually for gas engines, just a little tough on the gas
budget. I have neighbors with I/O speed boats in that size range that
burn about the same.

I was looking at a Cape Horn and the guy is selling the boat, but
keeping his engines. I was seriously considering that Yamaha 350 as I
wouldn't have to use duals - I seriously want to uncomplicate my boat
life.

I'm not so sure I'm going to do that. Yamaha is making some claims
that I'm not convinced are - er...Kosher. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 00:03:39 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:17:34 -0400, wrote:

I came up with this (52 GPH)

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/p...n-tri-f350.pdf

Triples! That would definitely do it.

Considering it is 11,000+ lbs as tested, 36 ft long, doing 50+, not
too bad actually for gas engines, just a little tough on the gas
budget. I have neighbors with I/O speed boats in that size range that
burn about the same.

I was looking at a Cape Horn and the guy is selling the boat, but
keeping his engines. I was seriously considering that Yamaha 350 as I
wouldn't have to use duals - I seriously want to uncomplicate my boat
life.

I'm not so sure I'm going to do that. Yamaha is making some claims
that I'm not convinced are - er...Kosher. :)



Are you referring to Yamaha's performance sheets? My experience with
them, though limited, indicates they are spot-on. The other Yamaha
owners I have talked to with all manner of boats indicate they are
damned close to their results.

Maybe you should come by here after the Annapolis powerboat show. The
local Grady/Parker dealer puts on a couple of days of water demos with
help from the factories. I am sure there will be several boats with
350's mounted, and you can try them out. Some years ago, at that event,
I got a ride in the first and only diesel jackshaft 28' Parker built.
Cool ride on a really rough day. That exact boat is up for resale by its
original owner. Is it just the fuel burn that intrigues you?

My new boat/motor combo hasn't been tested by Yamaha, so I got a
performance sheet from the Parker factory, which runs its own tests. The
guy who ran the tests told me my results would be a bit better than his,
and he was dead on, including the fuel burn. It really serves no purpose
for these guys to put out made-up numbers.

On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 07:08:59 -0400, HK wrote:

Are you referring to Yamaha's performance sheets? My experience with
them, though limited, indicates they are spot-on. The other Yamaha
owners I have talked to with all manner of boats indicate they are
damned close to their results.

Hmmm- I'll have to take a closer look.

I might take you up on that Anapolis thing.

Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 06:50:18 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:04:53 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Yamaha is claiming .9 mpg cruise (4500 rpm) on it's V-8 350 WOT.

Hmmmm....52 GPH?

EEEWWWWWWW!!!!!!
You're doing something wrong:

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/outboard...px?ls=outboard

I came up with this (52 GPH)

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/p...n-tri-f350.pdf



Yeah, for three of them.

1.29 MPG out of 1000 cu in at 33 MPH is pretty good. Not my kinda
boat, but still an interesting string of numbers....



I suppose, though burning $75 in gasoline an hour to go fishing seems
kind of stupid, no matter how much money you have in your jeans.
Actually, if you have a boat like that, you're going to burn a lot more.
No one puts 1000 hp on a fast boat to go slow. They're going to be
running at 60 gallons an hour, I'd bet. $200 an hour in gas, and for
what? To further enrich our good buddies in the Middle East?

I banged around on the boat for about five hours Wednesday, covered
quite a distance at reasonable speeds, cruised in and out of a couple of
harbors, trolled for Spanish macks and blues for a few minutes, and
burned about $20 worth of gas.

I'm not playing holier than thou here, but to buy and run a boat that
you'll be burning 60 gallons an hour of fuel on seems...absurd.

On Sep 1, 9:11 am, HK wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 06:50:18 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:04:53 -0400, HK wrote:

Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Yamaha is claiming .9 mpg cruise (4500 rpm) on it's V-8 350 WOT.

Hmmmm....52 GPH?

EEEWWWWWWW!!!!!!
You're doing something wrong:

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/outboard...px?ls=outboard

I came up with this (52 GPH)

http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/p...ns/bulletin_4s...

Yeah, for three of them.

1.29 MPG out of 1000 cu in at 33 MPH is pretty good. Not my kinda
boat, but still an interesting string of numbers....

I suppose, though burning $75 in gasoline an hour to go fishing seems
kind of stupid, no matter how much money you have in your jeans.
Actually, if you have a boat like that, you're going to burn a lot more.
No one puts 1000 hp on a fast boat to go slow. They're going to be
running at 60 gallons an hour, I'd bet. $200 an hour in gas, and for
what? To further enrich our good buddies in the Middle East?

I banged around on the boat for about five hours Wednesday, covered
quite a distance at reasonable speeds, cruised in and out of a couple of
harbors, trolled for Spanish macks and blues for a few minutes, and
burned about $20 worth of gas.

I'm not playing holier than thou here, but to buy and run a boat that
you'll be burning 60 gallons an hour of fuel on seems...absurd.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Me and T did a lot of traveling the other day. 95 % of the time he was
cruising at 4000. Only once did I see him throttle up from there, and
only for one quick leg. Just my observation. But then again I was
under attack by trained lobsters so I was somewhat distracted.

wrote:
On Sep 1, 9:11 am, HK wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 06:50:18 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:04:53 -0400, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Yamaha is claiming .9 mpg cruise (4500 rpm) on it's V-8 350 WOT.
Hmmmm....52 GPH?
EEEWWWWWWW!!!!!!
You're doing something wrong:
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/outboard...px?ls=outboard
I came up with this (52 GPH)
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/p...ns/bulletin_4s...
Yeah, for three of them.
1.29 MPG out of 1000 cu in at 33 MPH is pretty good. Not my kinda
boat, but still an interesting string of numbers....
I suppose, though burning $75 in gasoline an hour to go fishing seems
kind of stupid, no matter how much money you have in your jeans.
Actually, if you have a boat like that, you're going to burn a lot more.
No one puts 1000 hp on a fast boat to go slow. They're going to be
running at 60 gallons an hour, I'd bet. $200 an hour in gas, and for
what? To further enrich our good buddies in the Middle East?

I banged around on the boat for about five hours Wednesday, covered
quite a distance at reasonable speeds, cruised in and out of a couple of
harbors, trolled for Spanish macks and blues for a few minutes, and
burned about $20 worth of gas.

I'm not playing holier than thou here, but to buy and run a boat that
you'll be burning 60 gallons an hour of fuel on seems...absurd.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Me and T did a lot of traveling the other day. 95 % of the time he was
cruising at 4000. Only once did I see him throttle up from there, and
only for one quick leg. Just my observation. But then again I was
under attack by trained lobsters so I was somewhat distracted.



Trained lobsters? How well are they trained? Do they jump into the
steamer on their own?

On Sep 1, 9:33 am, HK wrote:
wrote:
On Sep 1, 9:11 am, HK wrote:
Gene Kearns wrote:
On Sat, 01 Sep 2007 06:50:18 -0400, HK penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:
wrote:
On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:04:53 -0400, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Yamaha is claiming .9 mpg cruise (4500 rpm) on it's V-8 350 WOT.
Hmmmm....52 GPH?
EEEWWWWWWW!!!!!!
You're doing something wrong:
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/outboard...px?ls=outboard
I came up with this (52 GPH)
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/assets/p...ns/bulletin_4s...
Yeah, for three of them.
1.29 MPG out of 1000 cu in at 33 MPH is pretty good. Not my kinda
boat, but still an interesting string of numbers....
I suppose, though burning $75 in gasoline an hour to go fishing seems
kind of stupid, no matter how much money you have in your jeans.
Actually, if you have a boat like that, you're going to burn a lot more.
No one puts 1000 hp on a fast boat to go slow. They're going to be
running at 60 gallons an hour, I'd bet. $200 an hour in gas, and for
what? To further enrich our good buddies in the Middle East?

I banged around on the boat for about five hours Wednesday, covered
quite a distance at reasonable speeds, cruised in and out of a couple of
harbors, trolled for Spanish macks and blues for a few minutes, and
burned about $20 worth of gas.

I'm not playing holier than thou here, but to buy and run a boat that
you'll be burning 60 gallons an hour of fuel on seems...absurd.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Me and T did a lot of traveling the other day. 95 % of the time he was
cruising at 4000. Only once did I see him throttle up from there, and
only for one quick leg. Just my observation. But then again I was
under attack by trained lobsters so I was somewhat distracted.

Trained lobsters? How well are they trained? Do they jump into the
steamer on their own?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I am quite sure Tom has a team of black ops lobsters he uses to screw
with newbies. Apparently these lobsters have hanaeus weapons called
"lobster traps" which they use to snag and steal land-dwellers bait
and tackle. Sneaky *******s they are, but I know about em' now, next
time I'll be ready