Twin engine docking
 

On Thu, 31 May 2007 07:39:31 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 10:31:41 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2007 21:53:43 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

I guess you all will have to just go try it. It's due to the gryoscopic
stability of the bike.

I just returned from my morning bike ride on my brandy new mountain
bike. I push the handle bar left, it goes bicycle goes right. I lean
left, the bicycle goes left.

I think, based on this morning's experiments, that this is one of
those Myths (don't bother - I've already submitted it to Mythbusters)
that is based on observation error.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. :)

Now .... did you know that helicopters were impossible to fly until
gyroscopic progression was recognized and accounted for in the control of
the rotating airfoils?

Yes.

Somehow boating will tie into this somewhere.....

Pontoons on helicopters. And the CG and Navy fly helicopters.

Ipso Facto - QED - boating thread. :)

You gotta have some speed. Try it with one hand, on pavement, with speed.
If you push left you will go left, unless you've figured out a way to go
right while the bike is leaning far to the left!

Sorry John - didn't work that way and never has.

I still say those who are on the left/left side of the argument are
confusing two seperate issues.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. :)

Twin engine docking
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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Sorry John - didn't work that way and never has.

I still say those who are on the left/left side of the argument are
confusing two seperate issues.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. :)


Some people should just stick with 4-wheeled Corvettes.

Eisboch :-)

Twin engine docking
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 07:39:31 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 10:31:41 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2007 21:53:43 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

I guess you all will have to just go try it. It's due to the gryoscopic
stability of the bike.

I just returned from my morning bike ride on my brandy new mountain
bike. I push the handle bar left, it goes bicycle goes right. I lean
left, the bicycle goes left.

I think, based on this morning's experiments, that this is one of
those Myths (don't bother - I've already submitted it to Mythbusters)
that is based on observation error.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. :)

Now .... did you know that helicopters were impossible to fly until
gyroscopic progression was recognized and accounted for in the control
of
the rotating airfoils?

Yes.

Somehow boating will tie into this somewhere.....

Pontoons on helicopters. And the CG and Navy fly helicopters.

Ipso Facto - QED - boating thread. :)

You gotta have some speed. Try it with one hand, on pavement, with speed.
If you push left you will go left, unless you've figured out a way to go
right while the bike is leaning far to the left!

Sorry John - didn't work that way and never has.

I still say those who are on the left/left side of the argument are
confusing two seperate issues.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. :)

To think this all started with a *bicycle* handle bar analogy.....how high
speeds and motorcycles got into the mix is beyond me. ;-)

Twin engine docking
 

"JimH" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 31 May 2007 07:39:31 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 10:31:41 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2007 21:53:43 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

I guess you all will have to just go try it. It's due to the
gryoscopic
stability of the bike.

I just returned from my morning bike ride on my brandy new mountain
bike. I push the handle bar left, it goes bicycle goes right. I lean
left, the bicycle goes left.

I think, based on this morning's experiments, that this is one of
those Myths (don't bother - I've already submitted it to Mythbusters)
that is based on observation error.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. :)

Now .... did you know that helicopters were impossible to fly until
gyroscopic progression was recognized and accounted for in the control
of
the rotating airfoils?

Yes.

Somehow boating will tie into this somewhere.....

Pontoons on helicopters. And the CG and Navy fly helicopters.

Ipso Facto - QED - boating thread. :)

You gotta have some speed. Try it with one hand, on pavement, with speed.
If you push left you will go left, unless you've figured out a way to go
right while the bike is leaning far to the left!

Sorry John - didn't work that way and never has.

I still say those who are on the left/left side of the argument are
confusing two seperate issues.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. :)

To think this all started with a *bicycle* handle bar analogy.....how high
speeds and motorcycles got into the mix is beyond me. ;-)


I confess.

Eisboch

Twin engine docking
 

On Thu, 31 May 2007 07:54:28 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .


Sorry John - didn't work that way and never has.

I still say those who are on the left/left side of the argument are
confusing two seperate issues.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. :)

Some people should just stick with 4-wheeled Corvettes.

ROTFL!!

Damn straight.

Hey, I'm only here for the discussion. :)

Besides, I'm not a motorcycle person. Hate the things actually.

I regard motorcycle riders in the same vein as PWC riders.

I won't say which vein that is. :)

Twin engine docking
 

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"JimH" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 07:39:31 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2007 10:31:41 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2007 21:53:43 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

I guess you all will have to just go try it. It's due to the
gryoscopic
stability of the bike.

I just returned from my morning bike ride on my brandy new mountain
bike. I push the handle bar left, it goes bicycle goes right. I lean
left, the bicycle goes left.

I think, based on this morning's experiments, that this is one of
those Myths (don't bother - I've already submitted it to Mythbusters)
that is based on observation error.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. :)

Now .... did you know that helicopters were impossible to fly until
gyroscopic progression was recognized and accounted for in the control
of
the rotating airfoils?

Yes.

Somehow boating will tie into this somewhere.....

Pontoons on helicopters. And the CG and Navy fly helicopters.

Ipso Facto - QED - boating thread. :)

You gotta have some speed. Try it with one hand, on pavement, with
speed.
If you push left you will go left, unless you've figured out a way to go
right while the bike is leaning far to the left!

Sorry John - didn't work that way and never has.

I still say those who are on the left/left side of the argument are
confusing two seperate issues.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. :)

To think this all started with a *bicycle* handle bar analogy.....how
high speeds and motorcycles got into the mix is beyond me. ;-)


I confess.

Eisboch


You are forgiven. Go and sin no more brother Eisboch.

Twin engine docking
 

On Thu, 31 May 2007 07:56:03 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:

To think this all started with a *bicycle* handle bar analogy.....how high
speeds and motorcycles got into the mix is beyond me. ;-)

It's the nature of Usenet.

An endless and fascinating virtual world.

Twin engine docking
 

On Thu, 31 May 2007 07:56:48 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

I confess.

Hmmmm - kind of open ended confession.

Did you happen to know Jimmy Hoffa? :)

Twin engine docking
 

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 07:54:28 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
. ..


Sorry John - didn't work that way and never has.

I still say those who are on the left/left side of the argument are
confusing two seperate issues.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it. :)

Some people should just stick with 4-wheeled Corvettes.

ROTFL!!

Damn straight.

Hey, I'm only here for the discussion. :)

Besides, I'm not a motorcycle person. Hate the things actually.

I regard motorcycle riders in the same vein as PWC riders.

I won't say which vein that is. :)

I was with a customer yesterday who just purchased an '07 Vette. The thing
is keyless and ignition is controlled by a proximity fob. He says the car
rides nicer than his new Silverado and is like night and day (ride wise)
compared to the '02 Vette he traded in.

Twin engine docking
 

On Wed, 30 May 2007 19:47:33 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 May 2007 18:20:52 -0400, "JimH" wrote:


"Joe" wrote in message
rthlink.net...
I am new to boating and would like to get some opinions on docking and
how
it "should" be done. I have a Wellcraft 270 Coastal with twin Evinrude
200's.

-When docking (perpendicular) should I be steering the boat when
maneuvering or using the engines to spin the boat 90 degrees? I'm having
a
hard time with spinning it and keeping it where it needs to be. ARG!!!
So far every time I've tried to spin it I've had to abandon that effort
and steer it in. It works but I don't want to get accustom to doing that
if it's actually easier to use the engines.

ANY helpful advice on this subject would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Think in terms of a bicycle handlebar.........turn left and your left hand
(port engine controls) pulls down (reverse) or towards you on the
handlebar,
right hand (starboard engine) up (forward) or away from you......turn
right
and your left hand pushes up (forward on the port engine) and your right
hand down (reverse on the starboard engine)..........all the time with
both
engines in idle and the wheel in the forward (straight ahead position) and
not touching the wheel.

When I would stern in with our larger boat (with twins) I would slowly go
past the slip (on the starboard side) while centering the wheel and
engines
at idle, put port in reverse while bumping starboard in and out of forward
or reverse as I needed to adjust my position. When finalizing the
approach
and parallel to the slip I would nudge both engines in and then out of
forward to stop the boats reverse progress.

This worked for me.
This worked for me


Not to be picky, but if you're going at any speed on your bicycle and pull
the left handlebar towards you, you will turn right.

Push left, go left. Push right, go right. Just the opposite of a tricycle.

Huh?


Go try it! Just so you're not influenced, do it with only one hand. Then
you'll get the idea.