On 27 Mar 2007 19:23:35 -0700, "Tim" wrote:

Here's a guy that is licensed to command major tonnage, but yet will
be requiered to take a safety course to pilot a boat that could
probably fit in the tankers galley.

Interesting morning.

Let's just say that the reasoning is...well, arcane.

Plus it seems that while he's qualified to teach the class or a
USPS/USCG class without additional qualifications, he still need to
have taken either course or the State 8 hour course to qualify for the
certificate.

Addendum:

CT now offers a special endorsement to the Operater's Certificate
denoting that you can actually navigate with paper charts and such.
Minor thing actually, but I was curious if I qualified based on my
Master's License.

Turns out I don't - I have to take the course that I taught for three
years as a state instructor to qualify for the certificate or take the
USPS/USCG navigation course which is about three levels below my
qualifications.

Put another way, I can teach the course, but I don't qualify for the
certificate sticker unless I take the course and pass.

Don't you just love bureaucrats?

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:00:00 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On 27 Mar 2007 19:23:35 -0700, "Tim" wrote:

Here's a guy that is licensed to command major tonnage, but yet will
be requiered to take a safety course to pilot a boat that could
probably fit in the tankers galley.

Interesting morning.

Let's just say that the reasoning is...well, arcane.

Plus it seems that while he's qualified to teach the class or a
USPS/USCG class without additional qualifications, he still need to
have taken either course or the State 8 hour course to qualify for the
certificate.

Addendum:

CT now offers a special endorsement to the Operater's Certificate
denoting that you can actually navigate with paper charts and such.
Minor thing actually, but I was curious if I qualified based on my
Master's License.

Turns out I don't - I have to take the course that I taught for three
years as a state instructor to qualify for the certificate or take the
USPS/USCG navigation course which is about three levels below my
qualifications.

Put another way, I can teach the course, but I don't qualify for the
certificate sticker unless I take the course and pass.

Don't you just love bureaucrats?

Had the same thing happen when trying to register a motorcycle at Fort
Belvoir. I had a Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF) instructor's card, but
to register the bike I had to have either the basic rider's course or
advanced rider's course card. Both are well below the instructor level.
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***** Hope your day is better than decent! *****

John H

"John H." wrote in message
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Had the same thing happen when trying to register a motorcycle at Fort
Belvoir. I had a Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF) instructor's card, but
to register the bike I had to have either the basic rider's course or
advanced rider's course card. Both are well below the instructor level.


MA has a pretty good rule regarding new motorcycle license applicants. If
you successfully complete an approved course of instruction the registry
waives the requirements of a formal road test and issues the motorcycle
endorsement. My son did this a couple of years ago and although I've had a
motorcycle endorsement for many years (obtained the old fashioned way), I
decided to take the course with him, just for the fun of it. It was very
worthwhile and I'd recommend it to even the most seasoned of riders.

Eisboch

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:32:28 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"John H." wrote in message
.. .

Had the same thing happen when trying to register a motorcycle at Fort
Belvoir. I had a Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF) instructor's card, but
to register the bike I had to have either the basic rider's course or
advanced rider's course card. Both are well below the instructor level.


MA has a pretty good rule regarding new motorcycle license applicants. If
you successfully complete an approved course of instruction the registry
waives the requirements of a formal road test and issues the motorcycle
endorsement. My son did this a couple of years ago and although I've had a
motorcycle endorsement for many years (obtained the old fashioned way), I
decided to take the course with him, just for the fun of it. It was very
worthwhile and I'd recommend it to even the most seasoned of riders.

Eisboch


I'd recommend the MSF course to anyone who hasn't taken it. I took it with
my wife after many years of riding, and it *was* worthwhile.

Virginia DMV had a rep there for the last day, and he issued the motorcycle
endorsement to all the students who completed the course.
--
***** Hope your day is better than decent! *****

John H

Take the advanced rider course given at Americade. You'll be glad you did.
Americade itself is a hoot.
Jim
MA has a pretty good rule regarding new motorcycle license applicants. If
you successfully complete an approved course of instruction the registry
waives the requirements of a formal road test and issues the motorcycle
endorsement. My son did this a couple of years ago and although I've had
a motorcycle endorsement for many years (obtained the old fashioned way),
I decided to take the course with him, just for the fun of it. It was
very worthwhile and I'd recommend it to even the most seasoned of riders.

Eisboch

"Jim" wrote in message
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Take the advanced rider course given at Americade. You'll be glad you did.
Americade itself is a hoot.
Jim



Do you remember the older, rust orange colored Softail I had in Florida?
It's the one I used when we went for the ride out through sugar cane
country. Anyway, my son Steven has that bike now. Still looks like new.
I've been eyeballing the new Ultra Classics but I think I'll stick to the
one I have. Time for new tires though.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
. ..

"John H." wrote in message
...

Had the same thing happen when trying to register a motorcycle at Fort
Belvoir. I had a Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF) instructor's card,
but
to register the bike I had to have either the basic rider's course or
advanced rider's course card. Both are well below the instructor level.


MA has a pretty good rule regarding new motorcycle license applicants. If
you successfully complete an approved course of instruction the registry
waives the requirements of a formal road test and issues the motorcycle
endorsement. My son did this a couple of years ago and although I've had
a motorcycle endorsement for many years (obtained the old fashioned way),
I decided to take the course with him, just for the fun of it. It was
very worthwhile and I'd recommend it to even the most seasoned of riders.

Eisboch


I still carry a motorcycle endorsement I received on after passing the road
test on my Honda 50 at age 16. My last drive was on a Kawasaki
750...............a fast machine.

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:07:25 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:

I still carry a motorcycle endorsement I received on after passing the road
test on my Honda 50 at age 16. My last drive was on a Kawasaki
750...............a fast machine

I can go you one better.

I have the motorcycle endorsement on my driver's license and I've
never owned a motorcycle in my life.

Never actually driven one either.

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:07:25 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:

I still carry a motorcycle endorsement I received after passing the road
test on my Honda 50 at age 16. My last drive was on a Kawasaki
750...............a fast machine

I can go you one better.

I have the motorcycle endorsement on my driver's license and I've
never owned a motorcycle in my life.

Never actually driven one either.

I give...........how did you do it?

On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:20:43 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 20:07:25 -0400, "JimH"
wrote:

I still carry a motorcycle endorsement I received after passing the road
test on my Honda 50 at age 16. My last drive was on a Kawasaki
750...............a fast machine

I can go you one better.

I have the motorcycle endorsement on my driver's license and I've
never owned a motorcycle in my life.

Never actually driven one either.

I give...........how did you do it?

I didn't. The DMV did.

When we moved from MA to CT, I applied, got my picture taken and
received a license with my (at the time) Class One with motorcycle
endorsement.

It's just followed me through every renewal. :)